pretty sure he's just trying to f*&k with me.
- prock

If you can get better, go for it. Maybe there are, I'm not working the phones either.

I'd say Kapanen and a mid/late first is about the value you can expect though.
- prock

I've been busy again with work, why is everyone laughing?
- LeftCoaster

We are laughing at prock.

For me, I want to get some youth for Tanev, but ultimately it wont make or break the franchise. Kapanen or whomever and a mid first is fine value. The prospect talent we are truly missing are the ones that come from the top of the draft, which wont come via trade anyways
- WhiteLie

That's why you trade Tanev for 1 blue chip prospect or a high pick. Multiple depth pieces are not what this team needs.

We are laughing at prock.
- Marwood

If you can get better, go for it. Maybe there are, I'm not working the phones either.

I'd say Kapanen and a mid/late first is about the value you can expect though.
- prock

It's pretty good value. Kapanen has a year of solid development and a very strong playoff showing under his belt. I'd take him and your first for Tanev were I JB

Greenway and Tuch. That is the kind of list I am referring to, but I think those three are all NHL players right now. Nashville has a similar thing going, as do San Jose, Pittsburgh, Chicago and the Rangers. That's why you see young guys inserted into their lineups every year and producing immediately, because they are actually NHL ready and developed. Granted, you need to balance the young guys with Elite leadership that is also productive.
- neem55

Half the teams in the NHL have 3 guys in those lists.

Tuch and Greenway are nothing special.

Kapanen puts up twice the offense Tuch does. Tuch is just much bigger. Which, I guess if you need some size in your top 6, instead of skill, go for it. I thought that's why you got Virtanen though.

Greenway, same thing. He's decent, was not bad in the WJCs, but he's nothing special either.

Half the teams in the NHL have 3 guys in those lists.

Tuch and Greenway are nothing special.

Kapanen puts up twice the offense Tuch does. Tuch is just much bigger. Which, I guess if you need some size in your top 6, instead of skill, go for it. I thought that's why you got Virtanen though.

Greenway, same thing. He's decent, was not bad in the WJCs, but he's nothing special either.
- prock

That's why you trade Tanev for 1 blue chip prospect or a high pick. Multiple depth pieces are not what this team needs.
- CanuckDon

Thats what I would target, quality over quantity at this point. If they fail to hit expectations, then you have your depth

Leafs assessing young talent.... wow, did they ever do their homework when they pulled off the steal of the draft and stole a hidden gem like Matthews before anyone else could accidentally take him.

That's almost as savvy as the hard work they put into winning the lottery.... all the other idiots must of prayed and prayed they wouldn't win the 1st OA....
- boonerbuck

They were lucky they didn't draft Laine like everyone here said they would've done.

That was a bullet the dodged

Luckily you guys picked Virtanen before Ehlers and Nylander otherwise we may have been stuck with him on the Solar Bears

That's why you trade Tanev for 1 blue chip prospect or a high pick. Multiple depth pieces are not what this team needs.
- CanuckDon

prospects + picks are what we need

Why leak anything... it's not an election.... they can just call each other and talk business

- boonerbuck

Considering Benning is still trying to conserve his 50 free hours of AOL access, that's probably the best bet.

But Yzerman has already got the word out in the media that Drouin is available.
It's 2017 and these things tend to percolate in the social media world before anything actually happens.

I know Benning thinks he's Don Draper, but Draper never ended up having to throw in an extra 2nd for a 3rd line C or 3rd pairing D. Maybe he should get with the times.

They were lucky they didn't draft Laine like everyone here said they would've done.

That was a bullet the dodged

Luckily you guys picked Virtanen before Ehlers and Nylander otherwise we may have been stuck with him on the Solar Bears
- walshyleafsfan

So were are bad at assessing talent but you guys would have taken our horrible choice if we didn't

Leafs assessing young talent.... wow, did they ever do their homework when they pulled off the steal of the draft and stole a hidden gem like Matthews before anyone else could accidentally take him.

That's almost as savvy as the hard work they put into winning the lottery.... all the other idiots must of prayed and prayed they wouldn't win the 1st OA....
- boonerbuck

yeah, because all of their picks were first overall.

Nylander was picked at 8. At this point, he's probably top 3 in terms of where they are now.

Marner is a pretty damn good pick at 4 too.

Hell, the first 4 picks of that draft are all doing pretty well. including 2 kids in their second post draft year as the top 2 dman on the AHL team among the best in the league, at the age of 20.

Instead of trying to discredit them because of the one elite kid they got at number 1, can you name any high picks they've blown in the last few years?

Considering Benning is still trying to conserve his 50 free hours of AOL access, that's probably the best bet.

But Yzerman has already got the word out in the media that Drouin is available.
It's 2017 and these things tend to percolate in the social media world before anything actually happens.

I know Benning thinks he's Don Draper, but Draper never ended up having to throw in an extra 2nd for a 3rd line C or 3rd pairing D. Maybe he should get with the times.
- Vanoxy

Could be worse, Leafs traded a 2nd for a 4rth liner recently.

So were are bad at assessing talent but you guys would have taken our horrible choice if we didn't

- boonerbuck

Meh. After thinking about it, our management aren't clown shoes so would never have picked JV. That's a good point Booner

Trade Edler!!! He is horrible. Dump him ASAP

Half the teams in the NHL have 3 guys in those lists.

Tuch and Greenway are nothing special.

Kapanen puts up twice the offense Tuch does. Tuch is just much bigger. Which, I guess if you need some size in your top 6, instead of skill, go for it. I thought that's why you got Virtanen though.

Greenway, same thing. He's decent, was not bad in the WJCs, but he's nothing special either.
- prock

Just a matter of perspective. I like Kapenen, I just like Greenway more. I sincerely doubt you know anything about any of the players you've mentioned outside of kapanen. Erikkson-ek is just straight up the better player right now, lt alone down the road. As is Daniel Sprong and a variety of other prospects on better teams. I'd also prefer Howden over Kapanen from Tampa or Barzal from the NYI. Bottom line: there are much better prospects than Kapanen around, many of these teams are looking for D if we are able to take back an unwanted contract.

yeah, because all of their picks were first overall.

Nylander was picked at 8. At this point, he's probably top 3 in terms of where they are now.

Marner is a pretty damn good pick at 4 too.

Hell, the first 4 picks of that draft are all doing pretty well. including 2 kids in their second post draft year as the top 2 dman on the AHL team among the best in the league, at the age of 20.

Instead of trying to discredit them because of the one elite kid they got at number 1, can you name any high picks they've blown in the last few years?
- prock

Probably all of them and swallowed too...

Could be worse, Leafs traded a 2nd for a 4rth liner recently.
- boonerbuck

You guy's would die for a talent like Boyle. Unfortunately, you ain't got the peices.

That's what happens when your draft JV, McCann and Shink. You draft poop, you can only trade them for poop

Probably all of them and swallowed too...
- boonerbuck

Just a matter of perspective. I like Kapenen, I just like Greenway more. I sincerely doubt you know anything about any of the players you've mentioned outside of kapanen. Erikkson-ek is just straight up the better player right now, lt alone down the road. As is Daniel Sprong and a variety of other prospects on better teams. I'd also prefer Howden over Kapanen from Tampa or Barzal from the NYI. Bottom line: there are much better prospects than Kapanen around, many of these teams are looking for D if we are able to take back an unwanted contract.
- neem55

I know plenty. I actually followed Tuch for a while (because I owned him in my keeper pool), and greenway I've seen a few times (including live, at the WJCs). We've got his brother. They're beasts. But not overly great at the hockey part of thing.

I get the sense you just like big players.

I never mentioned Eriksson Ek. He's solid.

Point was, you said teams that are flush with high end guys. Minnesota and Pittsburgh aren't really flush with high end guys.

You guy's would die for a talent like Boyle. Unfortunately, you ain't got the peices.

That's what happens when your draft JV, McCann and Shink. You draft poop, you can only trade them for poop
- walshyleafsfan

Nothing wrong with Granlund for Shink. Goes hard to the net every chance he gets... 20 goal scorer... a rookie. We picked Boeser basically same drafting position as Shink... very good prospect... good scouting there... so, all in all, we did fine late in the 1st rounds recnently. Like how you list your top 10(many top 5) picks as great scouting then point to 2 of 3 guys from late in the 1st round and a player who still has time to come around.

Yeah, Boyle worked out so well for you... 2 wins in the playoffs and he's a UFA. Your fake news out of Sportsnet tore us an new ahole for trading 2nd round picks for 22 year old 20 goal scorers. Sheep.

I know plenty. I actually followed Tuch for a while (because I owned him in my keeper pool), and greenway I've seen a few times (including live, at the WJCs). We've got his brother. They're beasts. But not overly great at the hockey part of thing.

I get the sense you just like big players.

I never mentioned Eriksson Ek. He's solid.
- prock

I like everything. Which is why I mentioned Sprong. I'm also open to d prospects, Carolina and Boston would be very nice trade partners for this reason IMO. Again, I think we get the most value by trading to a team with cap issues (not the leaves) in order to max the value. That's just my opinion.

Nothing wrong with Granlund for Shink. Goes hard to the net every chance he gets... 20 goal scorer... a rookie. We picked Boeser basically same drafting position as Shink... very good prospect... good scouting there... so, all in all, we did fine late in the 1st rounds recnently. Like how you list your top 10(many top 5) picks as great scouting then point to 2 of 3 guys from late in the 1st round and a player who still has time to come around.

Yeah, Boyle worked out so well for you... 2 wins in the playoffs and he's a UFA. Your fake news out of Sportsnet tore us an new ahole for trading 2nd round picks for 22 year old 20 goal scorers. Sheep.

- boonerbuck

This is pretty accurate.