I doubt Tampa will agree to that trade, though.

Additionally, can you imagine all the crying around here if Sanheim succeeds in Tampa and Drooin does not pan out(Bob comes to mind).
- missingmike

JVR and Luke come to mind also

Because doesn't all game action that resulted after the overturned onside call (including game clock) no longer count? Wouldn't the clock go back to 3:00 left and go back to the score at the 3-minute mark?
- jmatchett383

if the play continues...you cant just challenge something for the hell of it minutes later

Same way as a goal is disallowed on a successful offsides challenge now. But I don't think they turn back the game clock.

I could be wrong.
- Scoob

I was wrong.

SITUATION #4

The Blue team enters the attacking zone and the play is signaled as on-side. The Blue team continues into the zone and ultimately scores a goal 6 seconds after they entered the attacking zone. The Red team coach calls a time-out and indicates he wishes to issue a Coach's Challenge as he believes the play was off-side when the Blue team entered the zone prior to the goal. The Officials review the play and ascertain that the coach was correct and the play was off-side. What happens now?

ANSWER #4

The goal is disallowed, the appropriate announcement is made, the clock is re-set to 6 seconds earlier and the face-off is to take place at one of the face-off spots in the neutral zone outside the Red team's end zone. Rule 78.7

http://www.nhlofficials.c...-the-week-series-week-no1

The NHL rule book makes no mention of challenging an offsides non-call when an own-goal is scored, so give it a whirl, jmatchett383.

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en...-Interactive-rulebook.pdf

I am kind of referring mainly to the "high end" prospects. A lot of times they are out after 1 season of eligibility (Eichel, Hanafin) or two (Werenski, McAvoy, Kunin)
- YuenglingJagr

They jumped to the NHL after their time in the NCAA. Provey and TK did the same after 1 post draft year as well.

Same way as a goal is disallowed on a successful offsides challenge now. But I don't think they turn back the game clock.

I could be wrong.
- Scoob

it wouldnt be a continuation of the play though...you'd bring the puck in offside and then presumably would eventually come back in onside in that 2:50. I guess for this ridiculous exercise we can assume they remain in the zone...then who knows, but I dont think you being offside was the reason you were able to score on yourself

it wouldnt be a continuation of the play though...you'd bring the puck in offside and then presumably would eventually come back in onside in that 2:50. I guess for this ridiculous exercise we can assume they remain in the zone...then who knows, but I dont think you being offside was the reason you were able to score on yourself
- YuenglingJagr

No, you challenge that the other team was offsides because they had you penned in your own end for so long near the end of a 1-goal game. You score on yourself while still penned in, because, what the hell, and then challenge the offsides. If you win the challenge you get another three minutes to try to tie the game.

I'd actually love to see a team try it, if for no other reason than to make a mockery of the review rule.

if the play continues...you cant just challenge something for the hell of it minutes later
- YuenglingJagr

You can't challenge it until the goal happens. So of course they can.

No, you challenge that the other team was offsides because they had you penned in your own end for so long near the end of a 1-goal game. You score on yourself while still penned in, because, what the hell, and then challenge the offsides. If you win the challenge you get another three minutes to try to tie the game.

I'd actually love to see a team try it, if for no other reason than to make a mockery of the review rule.
- Scoob

You could absolutely challenge yourself being offside.

It was either this past year or the year before that the Eagles challenged the ruling that they had completed a pass because it resulted in a fumble. They tried to argue that their own receiver didn't catch the pass.

You could absolutely challenge yourself being offside.
- jmatchett383

But once the puck leaves your offensive zone you lose the ability to challenge the non-call.

Also, the way the rule reads to me, only the defending team can challenge offsides, so you can't challenge that you were offsides.

No, you challenge that the other team was offsides because they had you penned in your own end for so long near the end of a 1-goal game. You score on yourself while still penned in, because, what the hell, and then challenge the offsides. If you win the challenge you get another three minutes to try to tie the game.

I'd actually love to see a team try it, if for no other reason than to make a mockery of the review rule.
- Scoob

I didn't understand the question that way, but under that circumstance I agree it would be hilarious. I don't think it flies though because the other team being offside is not the reason the puck went in your net. You put it there yourself.

Edit: I just looked again, TK doesn't pass through waivers and I believe can go to the Phantoms this year. Does Weiss stay with Coots and TK spend time in the AHL . Just random thoughts.
- jaws1955

TK could go to the AHL, but I think that's a very unlikely scenario. Hextall must have been pretty damn impressed with his season to put him on Team Canada.

You can't challenge it until the goal happens. So of course they can.
- jmatchett383

The play has to continue

I didn't understand the question that way, but under that circumstance I agree it would be hilarious. I don't think it flies though because the other team being offside is not the reason the puck went in your net. You put it there yourself.
- YuenglingJagr

Well, in normal circumstances the other team being offside isn't the reason the puck went into the net, either. The challenge isn't about who scored. The challenge is really about "should they have been there in the first place?"

Well, in normal circumstances the other team being offside isn't the reason the puck went into the net, either. The challenge isn't about who scored. The challenge is really about "should they have been there in the first place?"
- Scoob

Right, but the team isn't allowed to play the puck in the attacking zone if they are offsides. You are still allowed to play the puck into your net

Guys can we stop please

Im not in favor of trading Ghost just for trading him but I think Drouin is worth moving him for.

Between Ghost and Sanheim I prefer to keep Sanheim based on size and expected pedigree.

Right, but the team isn't allowed to play the puck in the attacking zone if they are offsides. You are still allowed to play the puck into your net
- YuenglingJagr

Good point

Guys can we stop please
- YuenglingJagr

This

That Drouin chatter is nonsense and a waste of time

:-)

Im not in favor of trading Ghost just for trading him but I think Drouin is worth moving him for.

Between Ghost and Sanheim I prefer to keep Sanheim based on size and expected pedigree.
- opeth_pa

Tampa isn't trading Drouin unless they get equal value like Provorov - Tampa Fan

I agree. Even in his sophomore slump he produced, and really seemed to come around again later. Ghost's presence on the PP is big. I don't wanna lose that.

I'd rather not give up Sanheim, but (and I can't believe I'm saying this) our war chest is stacked with defensive prospects. We can probably afford to let him go because of how well Myers is progressing. Plus, let's not forget Morin is still around.

Hedman, DeAngelo, and Sanheim would be a formidable defensive core for years to come if you're the Lightning.

Sanheim and a 2. I'll swallow that bitter pill for a crack at Drouin
- Hesh_

If there is one d-man I trade out of the bunch its Ghost. He is the oldest and most one dimensional of the group.

Do I trade him now? Nope, I wait two seasons and then do it. By then Sanheim, Myers and co. will be up and in full swing.

Look at some of the top d-men traded over the past few seasons and the hauls they brought in..

Nico vs Nolan at the Top Prospects game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGq5YUxu3Ls

If the Flyers take Nico it will be the 3rd year in a row they took an MVP from this game (Konecny in 2015, Laberge in 2016)

Nico vs Nolan at the Top Prospects game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGq5YUxu3Ls

If the Flyers take Nico it will be the 3rd year in a row they took an MVP from this game (Konecny in 2015, Laberge in 2016)
- Feanor

I really think the Flyers end up with Patrick. I just have this feeling that the Devils will prefer the seemingly more dynamic offense that is talked about with Hischier.

id trade ghost strait up for drouin, trade giroux to vegas for there first pick and whoever we get at 2 better be ready for nhl

TK could go to the AHL, but I think that's a very unlikely scenario. Hextall must have been pretty damn impressed with his season to put him on Team Canada.
- Feanor

I don't think Hexy sends him down either. He offers too much offense. Put if Nico/Nolan make the team out of camp, he could safely be stashed, play top minutes and called up when a trade is made or an injury occurs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCcM-qduHsM


NHL central scouting director on Nico Hischier....