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sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

May 4 @ 5:55 PM ET
He's 32. I want absolutely nothing to do with him if a 1st or Reinhart are involved. Sorry, maybe you can have Evander Kane for him but we do not want or need a 32 year old defenseman right now. Isn't he signed for like 8 years too?


- BeadyEyedDouche



Yeah, we taken on Seabrook he'll be our next Bogogian. No way.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 5:56 PM ET
Yeah, we taken on Seabrook he'll be our next Bogogian. No way.
- sskkoo1



And here I thought we overvalued our players
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 4 @ 5:57 PM ET
Thrashers get rookie forward Niclas Bergfors, defenseman Johnny Oduya, prospect Patrice Cormier and a first-round pick in this year's draft
- BeadyEyedDouche[for Iilya].

http://www.espn.com/nhl/news/story?id=4888109


Wow don't remember that at all.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

May 4 @ 5:57 PM ET
He's 32. I want absolutely nothing to do with him if a 1st or Reinhart are involved. Sorry, maybe you can have Evander Kane for him but we do not want or need a 32 year old defenseman right now. Isn't he signed for like 8 years too?


- BeadyEyedDouche


Leads the team in goals.....lets trade him for an aging defenseman!!!


....this site sometimes
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 5:58 PM ET
Leads the team in goals.....lets trade him for an aging defenseman!!!


....this site sometimes

- feetontheair22


Did you even (frank)ing read the post? Apparently not.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 4 @ 5:58 PM ET
Guhle watch!

And who names their kid "Kaiden"?

- buffalofan19







My daughter named my grandson Caiden
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 4 @ 5:58 PM ET
And here I thought we overvalued our players
- BeadyEyedDouche


Plus he's making almost 7 mill per for the next 7 seasons. I wouldn't offer a 7th rounder for him.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

May 4 @ 5:59 PM ET
Did you even (frank)ing read the post? Apparently not.
- BeadyEyedDouche


"maybe you can have Evander Kane for him..."


yup...i read
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 4 @ 6:00 PM ET
"maybe you can have Evander Kane for him..."


yup...i read

- feetontheair22

The 8th pick, Reinhart and Nylander for the great 8.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 6:00 PM ET
Wow don't remember that at all.
- Matthews_Auston


Yeah, I remember he def wasn't a FA but didn't remember exactly what NJ gave up for him. The whole thing was sketchy though, I think IIRC it was leaked well before the trade that NJ was going to offer him a 10-year contract or whatever it was they did. I think the NHL investigated for tampering too if I recall.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

May 4 @ 6:03 PM ET
Blackhawks fan coming in peace, Buffalo is probably my favorite team besides the Hawks.
Would you guys be willing to take Seabrook for something?
I don't want to piss anyone off, but what about Seabrook for the 8th Overall pick and Zemgus? Or what about Seabrook for Reinhart and Falk?

We need to dump salary, and unfortunately Crawford and Seabrook are the most expendable right now. Seabrook isn't as fast as he once was (which was never blindlng), but he is a good PP guy and would become the best #2 you've ever had behind Risto.

Hawks desperately need depth scoring, defense, and prospects to refill the cupboard.

- ObeseOprah


Brent Seabrook was a nice player and a good fit with Keith, but he's the guy the Hawks absolutely should not have extended. If they would have dealt him 2 years ago they would have gotten a haul, but now he's making almost $7 for the next 7 years. Honestly I wouldn't give up a 7th round pick for him, the contract is on its way to being the worst in the league
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 6:04 PM ET
"maybe you can have Evander Kane for him..."


yup...i read

- feetontheair22


And ignored the rest of the post where I said I want no part of him.

And you do know the meaning of the word 'maybe'?

Kane has 1 year left on his contract. Evander Kane for Seabrook would actually be a steal, since the actual cap hit in the long-term is small (EDIT: This is not true actually hahaha). Fact is, there's no desirable trade for either side here.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 4 @ 6:04 PM ET
Honestly I would prefer an established GM. Im not saying many are available. But theres something a little scary about a first time GM being put in charge of this franchise in the state its in. We cant afford anymore growing pains at this point..
- MCGUIZZY


Yet we just had to fire Murray. To hire another first timer. This summer of all summers.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

May 4 @ 6:04 PM ET
Plus he's making almost 7 mill per for the next 7 seasons. I wouldn't offer a 7th rounder for him.
- Matthews_Auston


Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 4 @ 6:06 PM ET
Yeah, I remember he def wasn't a FA but didn't remember exactly what NJ gave up for him. The whole thing was sketchy though, I think IIRC it was leaked well before the trade that NJ was going to offer him a 10-year contract or whatever it was they did. I think the NHL investigated for tampering too if I recall.
- BeadyEyedDouche


I remember NJ were docked draft picks for circumventing the cap with his big contract.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 6:06 PM ET
Plus he's making almost 7 mill per for the next 7 seasons. I wouldn't offer a 7th rounder for him.
- Matthews_Auston



Yeah I was confused for a second, I thought his cap hit was only 4.5 but his signing bonus counts toward the cap every year.

That's a terrible (frank)ing contract
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 4 @ 6:07 PM ET

- mattmoulson



mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

May 4 @ 6:08 PM ET
Yeah, we taken on Seabrook he'll be our next Bogogian. No way.
- sskkoo1


I would rather have Bogosian and his contract
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

May 4 @ 6:08 PM ET
He's 32. I want absolutely nothing to do with him if a 1st or Reinhart are involved. Sorry, maybe you can have Evander Kane for him but we do not want or need a 32 year old defenseman right now. Isn't he signed for like 8 years too?


- BeadyEyedDouche

Not trying to be biased, seabrook still has a couple of good years left in him before he becomes a buyout/Arizona candidate. I'd love to keep him if we didn't have 5 pieces that were more important. He's scored more clutch goals than everyone but Kane on this team. He does PP/PK well, still has good advanced stats for an ancient 32 year old.
I still stand by that he'd be your second best defenseman instantly. And comparing him to bogo is a joke. 3 cups, Olympic gold, 40+ point seasons, A on the sweater. Bogo has none of that and never will.

Sorry if I ruffled some feathers. Just seeing what you'd part with for him.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 4 @ 6:09 PM ET
This is what comes out of buffal sabres and Buffalo Bills fans. Ted Nolan was a moron.he didn't watch film,didn't have a sysTem,was as bright as two watt light bulb. I love freedom of speech,but not when idiotic,senseless spewing comes out,95% of fans who have no clue about sports,that's why regier(no high school education) Nolan , Rex and Rob Ryan's get jobs. They are part of the 95% who have no clue but get jobs because there isn't enough smart people
- Der Kaiser






Spot on!
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 6:09 PM ET

- mattmoulson


I posted this like 2 pages ago lol
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 4 @ 6:10 PM ET
Not trying to be biased, seabrook still has a couple of good years left in him before he becomes a buyout/Arizona candidate. I'd love to keep him if we didn't have 5 pieces that were more important. He's scored more clutch goals than everyone but Kane on this team. He does PP/PK well, still has good advanced stats for an ancient 32 year old.
I still stand by that he'd be your second best defenseman instantly. And comparing him to bogo is a joke. 3 cups, Olympic gold, 40+ point seasons, A on the sweater. Bogo has none of that and never will.

Sorry if I ruffled some feathers. Just seeing what you'd part with for him.

- ObeseOprah


Too much money for too old a player. Same reason I wouldn't want to take on Weber for anything significant. The potential loss is too great.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

May 4 @ 6:11 PM ET
Not trying to be biased, seabrook still has a couple of good years left in him before he becomes a buyout/Arizona candidate. I'd love to keep him if we didn't have 5 pieces that were more important. He's scored more clutch goals than everyone but Kane on this team. He does PP/PK well, still has good advanced stats for an ancient 32 year old.
I still stand by that he'd be your second best defenseman instantly. And comparing him to bogo is a joke. 3 cups, Olympic gold, 40+ point seasons, A on the sweater. Bogo has none of that and never will.

Sorry if I ruffled some feathers. Just seeing what you'd part with for him.

- ObeseOprah


You didn't ruffle any feathers...just ignore that guy.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 6:12 PM ET
Not trying to be biased, seabrook still has a couple of good years left in him before he becomes a buyout/Arizona candidate. I'd love to keep him if we didn't have 5 pieces that were more important. He's scored more clutch goals than everyone but Kane on this team. He does PP/PK well, still has good advanced stats for an ancient 32 year old.
I still stand by that he'd be your second best defenseman instantly. And comparing him to bogo is a joke. 3 cups, Olympic gold, 40+ point seasons, A on the sweater. Bogo has none of that and never will.

Sorry if I ruffled some feathers. Just seeing what you'd part with for him.

- ObeseOprah


No feathers ruffled

If he was 4 years younger, you'd be onto something. But he's on the wrong side of 30 to give up Reinhart or a 1st for. If it was Girgensons, Foligno and a 2nd, give or take a few pieces, that would be where I'd start.

At this point though, we'd be doing you a favor taking that contract, he has a NMC until the last 2 years, is just shy of 7 million and would handcuff us moving forward.

He might be a great partner for Ristolainen, but again, I think you'd even have to retain salary for it to be workable.
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 4 @ 6:12 PM ET
Too much money for too old a player. Same reason I wouldn't want to take on Weber for anything significant. The potential loss is too great.
- Wetbandit1


If he was being paid in the 4-5 mill range for another 3 or 4 years I would take him easily. But no way at 7x7.
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