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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

May 4 @ 3:29 PM ET
Todd Cordell: On Shattenkirk and Kovalchuk
thechezman
New Jersey Devils
Location: 9083103373, NJ
Joined: 04.24.2016

May 4 @ 4:02 PM ET
Devils could definitely use KOVI.

But need defense more.
Look at What edmonton did.
Traded HALL for defense then signed LUCIC .

Do the same .
Sign and trade Kovi for say . ARIZONA LUKE SCHeNN .

Sign Shattenkirk , Sign Oshie .
Draft NICO


Hall -Nico -Oshie
Henrique - Zacha -Mcleod
Quenneville -Zajac -Palmieri
Wood - Blandisi -Thompson / Noesen
----
Greene - SHattenkirk
Severson - Schenn
Moore - Santini
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 4 @ 4:06 PM ET
Devils could definitely use KOVI.

But need defense more.
Look at What edmonton did.
Traded HALL for defense then signed LUCIC .

Do the same .
Sign and trade Kovi for say . ARIZONA LUKE SCHeNN .

Sign Shattenkirk , Sign Oshie .
Draft NICO


Hall -Nico -Oshie
Henrique - Zacha -Mcleod
Quenneville -Zajac -Palmieri
Wood - Blandisi -Thompson / Noesen
----
Greene - SHattenkirk
Severson - Schenn
Moore - Santini

- thechezman


shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 4:08 PM ET
Devils could definitely use KOVI.

But need defense more.
Look at What edmonton did.
Traded HALL for defense then signed LUCIC .

Do the same .
Sign and trade Kovi for say . ARIZONA LUKE SCHeNN .

Sign Shattenkirk , Sign Oshie .
Draft NICO


Hall -Nico -Oshie
Henrique - Zacha -Mcleod
Quenneville -Zajac -Palmieri
Wood - Blandisi -Thompson / Noesen
----
Greene - SHattenkirk
Severson - Schenn
Moore - Santini

- thechezman

Luke (frank)ing schenn?

That's what you want? Luke schenn?

Get the (frank) out of here.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 4:09 PM ET

- Mordecai

He's as good as yours
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 4 @ 4:09 PM ET
Devils could definitely use KOVI.

But need defense more.
Look at What edmonton did.
Traded HALL for defense then signed LUCIC .

Do the same .
Sign and trade Kovi for say . ARIZONA LUKE SCHeNN .

Sign Shattenkirk , Sign Oshie .
Draft NICO


Hall -Nico -Oshie
Henrique - Zacha -Mcleod
Quenneville -Zajac -Palmieri
Wood - Blandisi -Thompson / Noesen
----
Greene - SHattenkirk
Severson - Schenn
Moore - Santini

- thechezman


Luke Schenn??? WTF
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 4:10 PM ET
Luke Schenn??? WTF
- Matthews_Auston

(frank)ing ridiculous. Would go down as one of the top 5 worst trades of all time.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 4 @ 4:12 PM ET
I think it's a great trade proposal and definitely isn't ridiculous at all.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 4 @ 4:12 PM ET
nj should be forced to honor his absurd contract
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 4:14 PM ET
I think it's a great trade proposal and definitely isn't ridiculous at all.
- Mordecai

shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 4:15 PM ET
nj should be forced to honor his absurd contract
- Njuice

Id be down with that
Krazykid
New Jersey Devils
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.08.2015

May 4 @ 4:17 PM ET

- shvingter88

K-dizzle
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.28.2011

May 4 @ 4:19 PM ET
nj should be forced to honor his absurd contract
- Njuice

Nah the gm that signed him to it should
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 4:20 PM ET
Whoever they trade kovy to will likely bring back a bad contract.

Like kovy and a 3rd to Columbus for hartnell and savard.
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 4 @ 4:22 PM ET
I think the big question for Shero and co is are they trying to make the playoffs next year or are they all in on a rebuild, including more top 5 picks?

I feel like last off-season, especially after the Hall trade, they felt like the team could potentially push for a playoff spot.

If they want to try to ice the best team possible next season, it makes sense to go after Shattenkirk, try to convince Kovy to play in NJ, and of course keep Schneider.

If they are going full rebuild, Shattenkirk doesn't make a lot of sense (especially on a long term deal), they'll definitely want to move Kovy for assets, and trading Schneider for young assets/high picks makes more sense.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 4 @ 4:22 PM ET
Whoever they trade kovy to we'll likely have to take a bad contract back.

Like kovy and a 3rd to Columbus for hartnell and savard.

- shvingter88

Kovy for MacDonald and a 2nd
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 4:23 PM ET
I think the big question for Shero and co is are they trying to make the playoffs next year or are they all in on a rebuild, including more top 5 picks?

I feel like last off-season, especially after the Hall trade, they felt like the team could potentially push for a playoff spot.

If they want to try to ice the best team possible next season, it makes sense to go after Shattenkirk, try to convince Kovy to play in NJ, and of course keep Schneider.

If they are going full rebuild, Shattenkirk doesn't make a lot of sense (especially on a long term deal), they'll definitely want to move Kovy for assets, and trading Schneider for young assets/high picks makes more sense.

- MannySilvers

If they're going full rebuild, trade kovy, hall, Schneider.
Krazykid
New Jersey Devils
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.08.2015

May 4 @ 4:24 PM ET
Devils could definitely use KOVI.

But need defense more.
Look at What edmonton did.
Traded HALL for defense then signed LUCIC .

Do the same .
Sign and trade Kovi for say . ARIZONA LUKE SCHeNN .

Sign Shattenkirk , Sign Oshie .
Draft NICO


Hall -Nico -Oshie
Henrique - Zacha -Mcleod
Quenneville -Zajac -Palmieri
Wood - Blandisi -Thompson / Noesen
----
Greene - SHattenkirk
Severson - Schenn
Moore - Santini

- thechezman

Are you on crack or something? Kovi for.....Luke Schenn. The Fact that you think a good return for someone who put up 75+ pts in 60 games is Luke Schenn makes my head hurt. I think most people are thinking more along the lines of atleast somthing equivalent to a first round pick. I personally hoping we send kovi to the isles for Barzal and a 2nd or third. Center depth of Nico/Nolan, Mcleod, Zacha, Barzal makes my mouth water . Or clearly the logical option is trade him for well needed Defensive help which would be very nice. NOT LUKE SCHENNNNNNN
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 4:24 PM ET
Kovy for MacDonald and a 2nd
- Mordecai

I like that as much as I like Luke schenn.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 4 @ 4:25 PM ET
I like that as much as I like Luke schenn.
- shvingter88

I should have pmed my proposal to thechezman
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 4 @ 4:27 PM ET
If they're going full rebuild, trade kovy, hall, Schneider.
- shvingter88


Yeah I mean it's debatable what "full rebuild" means. I personally wouldn't trade Hall, at 25 he'll still be great for awhile. Kovy 100% and Schneider probably makes sense as well, though it makes me sad.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

May 4 @ 4:28 PM ET
Luke (frank)ing schenn?

That's what you want? Luke schenn?

Get the (frank) out of here.

- shvingter88




put him on the second pairing with Lovejoy and we are guaranteed a high pick next year.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 4:28 PM ET
I should have pmed my proposal to thechezman
- Mordecai

How about kovi for the flyers 2017 1st and conditional 2018 2nd? condition being making the conference final, if not it's a 3rd.

That way we can't (frank) up picking between nico and Nolan and you guys get way better now.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 4:29 PM ET
Yeah I mean it's debatable what "full rebuild" means. I personally wouldn't trade Hall, at 25 he'll still be great for awhile. Kovy 100% and Schneider probably makes sense as well, though it makes me sad.
- MannySilvers

I feel too badly for him
Krazykid
New Jersey Devils
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.08.2015

May 4 @ 4:30 PM ET
put him on the second pairing with Lovejoy and we are guaranteed a high pick next year.
- smellmyfinger

Rasmus Dahlin would def be ours. But judging how the lottery has gone the past two years idk if id wanna have the best odds
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