He is going the college route. He is an older player in this draft like Patrick. I don't think he should be taken at 5. If could trade Buffalo for 8, I would if Liljegren is gone.
- manvanfan

Oh ok that makes sense

I think your going to see a lot of trades within the first round

6 mil for a third line center that has 18 goals and 23 assists 41 points.

I know he was second line center last year but this year Jost will pass him.
- VANTEL

He had a down year. The entire team had a down year. Bo with 1 more point this season would have been tied for 1st in scoring on that team.

Duchene's career point total show that he is a 60 point per year player.

How much cap space is Marner Matthews McDavid and Draisitl eating up next year?
- VANTEL

That's pairs of Cs. You're talking having 2 that are BETTER than Bo? with 3 Cs of that quality you're probably looking at well over 20 Mil per year

you don't know that...we could end up with two more Virtanens. Why are you planning for what you MIGHT get???...We have it in Bo, so we should plan for what we HAVE.

Bo could easily become our 1C - his numbers are projecting in that direction by 2018-19, plus he's better than Kadri already so that's not even comparable. I'd rather spread out the money over 5-6 years, 4.75-5 is fair. It'll be interesting to see what Wennberg gets, cus he and Bo have similar #s

plus I'm not saying give him 6mil!!! the Avs are trying to move Duchene because they're Fawking terrible and everyone wants a change of scenery.
- Brooks_Light

I think he'll surpass Bo offensively. Bo's projecting to be a very good 2C. He is not a #1. But I'm ok if he proves me wrong.

I don't get it either. His point total from this season put him 40th for centers in scoring. There are a few players ahead of him that didn't play center this season. That would put him as a good 2nd line center. As mentioned he's playing on a poopty team. What could he have done if he had a decent winger to play with!

RNH is overpaid.

Kadri is finally not playing with a bunch of poopty players and put up his best season ever. Now looks like he is under paid a bit. What a difference when your team doesn't suck.
- manvanfan

It's probably a good thing for management that they have to figure out Horvats contract now. Him with Boeser and Baertschi next year could raise his stock even more

Oh ok that makes sense

I think your going to see a lot of trades within the first round
- Redmile247

I kind of feel the same. I would keep people till the trade deadline. Teams will be looking for more this year. Stronger draft projected next season.

It's probably a good thing for management that they have to figure out Horvats contract now. Him with Boeser and Baertschi next year could raise his stock even more
- NorthNuck

Boeser is a question but looks promising. Baertschi I think he reached his peak. I see a 2/3 liner 40 point player. If he has a good but not great season, I would be trading him at the deadline unless he takes a Hansen type contract.

you don't know that...we could end up with two more Virtanens. Why are you planning for what you MIGHT get???...We have it in Bo, so we should plan for what we HAVE.

Bo could easily become our 1C - his numbers are projecting in that direction by 2018-19, plus he's better than Kadri already so that's not even comparable. I'd rather spread out the money over 5-6 years, 4.75-5 is fair. It'll be interesting to see what Wennberg gets, cus he and Bo have similar #s

plus I'm not saying give him 6mil!!! the Avs are trying to move Duchene because they're Fawking terrible and everyone wants a change of scenery.
- Brooks_Light

I think it's crazy to assume the Canucks are going to draft two centers better than Horvat in the next four years, since 1988 (29 yrs) they've drafted ONE center better than Linden (Henrik). It's just not that easy! Unless of course you're drafting 1st overall in a good draft year.

I do disagree that Horvat is better than Kadri though, he's got a bit of improving to do before he's that good. Kadri is very under rated as Toronto's second line center.

I kind of feel the same. I would keep people till the trade deadline. Teams will be looking for more this year. Stronger draft projected next season.
- manvanfan

Stronger draft, no expansion draft to worry about next off season, and dealing with the side effects of the expansion draft thus off season

News bulletin Canucks are terrible too.

Being this terrible we will get high draft picks .
- VANTEL

I know they're terrible but that doesn't mean that those picks are gonna automatically end up being better than Bo!

How can you say Bo will never end up being a 1C and that just by sucking we get two better players than him in the next two drafts? Then in the same breath assume Jost will surpass Duchene?? Where do I get my hands on this sure thing, crystal ball of yours - Walmart?

I think it's crazy to assume the Canucks are going to draft two centers better than Horvat in the next four years, since 1988 (29 yrs) they've drafted ONE center better than Linden (Henrik). It's just not that easy! Unless of course you're drafting 1st overall in a good draft year.

I do disagree that Horvat is better than Kadri though, he's got a bit of improving to do before he's that good. Kadri is very under rated as Toronto's second line center.
- LeftCoaster

Kadri played on a poop team for years and now that they have Matthews, Marner, Nylander. He is overshadowed and forgot about. He had a 63 point season.

I think it's crazy to assume the Canucks are going to draft two centers better than Horvat in the next four years, since 1988 (29 yrs) they've drafted ONE center better than Linden (Henrik). It's just not that easy! Unless of course you're drafting 1st overall in a good draft year.

I do disagree that Horvat is better than Kadri though, he's got a bit of improving to do before he's that good. Kadri is very under rated as Toronto's second line center.
- LeftCoaster

It's cuz kadri is a douche ...good player though

I know they're terrible but that doesn't mean that those picks are gonna automatically end up being better than Bo!

How can you say Bo will never end up being a 1C and that just by sucking we get two better players than him in the next two drafts? Then in the same breath assume Jost will surpass Duchene?? Where do I get my hands on this sure thing, crystal ball of yours - Walmart?
- Brooks_Light

You can see if Donna has one at Walmart

I know they're terrible but that doesn't mean that those picks are gonna automatically end up being better than Bo!

How can you say Bo will never end up being a 1C and that just by sucking we get two better players than him in the next two drafts? Then in the same breath assume Jost will surpass Duchene?? Where do I get my hands on this sure thing, crystal ball of yours - Walmart?
- Brooks_Light

Jost won't surpass Duchene ...he's no where near the player Duchene is

Kadri played on a poop team for years and now that they have Matthews, Marner, Nylander. He is overshadowed and forgot about. He had a 63 point season.
- manvanfan

He's always been a 45 to 50 point center, I think his game has really improved and matured, it's also helped that Matthews is playing ahead of him.

Stronger draft, no expansion draft to worry about next off season, and dealing with the side effects of the expansion draft thus off season
- Redmile247

If JB is truly into the rebuild. Giving up some players for bad contracts and picks.
Matt Read from Philly and they have extra picks.
Francois Beauchemin
Matt Calvert
Jimmy Hayes

All players with decent contracts that end next season (yes unspectacular). Teams that could use a little help in getting rid of some cap space. All probably easily flipped at the trade deadline too. Get a better pick to take off their hands then get another pick at the TDL.

It's cuz kadri is a douche ...good player though
- Redmile247

His game improved a lot this year but ya, he's a wiener.

If JB is truly into the rebuild. Giving up some players for bad contracts and picks.
Matt Read from Philly and they have extra picks.
Francois Beauchemin
Matt Calvert
Jimmy Hayes

All players with decent contracts that end next season (yes unspectacular). Teams that could use a little help in getting rid of some cap space. All probably easily flipped at the trade deadline too. Get a better pick to take off their hands then get another pick at the TDL.
- manvanfan

Any way he can add extra picks will help make the rebuild over sooner than later

Jost won't surpass Duchene ...he's no where near the player Duchene is
- Redmile247

he could be just as productive tho. everyone in COL was terrible this year. I wouldn't take any of their stats seriously.

I think it's crazy to assume the Canucks are going to draft two centers better than Horvat in the next four years, since 1988 (29 yrs) they've drafted ONE center better than Linden (Henrik). It's just not that easy! Unless of course you're drafting 1st overall in a good draft year.

I do disagree that Horvat is better than Kadri though, he's got a bit of improving to do before he's that good. Kadri is very under rated as Toronto's second line center.
- LeftCoaster

tell that to Vantal

If we draft high NEXT year, there's a real chance we get someone with a "potentialy" higher ceiling than Bo, BUT there's Yaupovs, Reinharts, Dal Colles out there too.

All I'm saying is you cant guarantee that you automatically get someone good and then project him for the future 1C just by drafting high, that's absurd.

As for Kadri, this is the first time he's outscored BO and it took him 5 years, so lets where Bo's numbers are in year 5.

He's always been a 45 to 50 point center, I think his game has really improved and matured, it's also helped that Matthews is playing ahead of him.
- LeftCoaster

He's never been bad just a player playing on a bad team playing above his level. Same as Bo playing as a 1st line center. Playing 2nd he was good this year. After "lets the kids play" took over, Bo's point total started to slow down.

I see Bo a lot like Bryan Little. He's a good 2nd that can play 1st if need be but he's going to thrive as a 2nd line center more then a 1st.

This year was the first year that Little wasn't playing 1st line minutes in WPG and posted his best P/GP point total. Not by a lot but a little.

he could be just as productive tho. everyone in COL was terrible this year. I wouldn't take any of their stats seriously.
- storm88

He could eventually ....not this year ...and probably not any year that Duchene is in his prime

I expect Duchene to have a bounce back year

tell that to Vantal

If we draft high NEXT year, there's a real chance we get someone with a "potentialy" higher ceiling than Bo, BUT there's Yaupovs, Reinharts, Dal Colles out there too.

All I'm saying is you cant guarantee that you automatically get someone good and then project him for the future 1C just by drafting high, that's absurd.

As for Kadri, this is the first time he's outscored BO and it took him 5 years, so lets where Bo's numbers are in year 5.
- Brooks_Light

? what do u mean? have u checked their stats the last 3 years?

? what do u mean? have u checked their stats the last 3 years?
- storm88

I think he meant at the same age.....

He had a down year. The entire team had a down year. Bo with 1 more point this season would have been tied for 1st in scoring on that team.

Duchene's career point total show that he is a 60 point per year player.
- manvanfan

imo Duchene is one of the most overrated players in the game, I don't understand why they don't build around Landeskog/Mackinnon and just trade Duchene for an actual d man/ goalie in that age bracket