Well done

Arpon Basu

Well done
- stinger67

I just saw that and read the comments

I agree--I hated this trade from day one. Certainly, Shea Weber is a class act on and off the ice, but PK had a connection with Montreal fans that no one else could ever hope to replicate. This trade, with all due respect to Mr. Weber, will end up going down in team history as being disastrous.

I agree--I hated this trade from day one. Certainly, Shea Weber is a class act on and off the ice, but PK had a connection with Montreal fans that no one else could ever hope to replicate. This trade, with all due respect to Mr. Weber, will end up going down in team history as being disastrous.
- isirota1965

I was against the trade, but people are talking like Subban is doing all that in Nashville on his own. They have a solid team. We'll never know, but I do think they'd be in the same spot with Weber.

...but then again, I'm not surprised. For some reason, everything turns around him. I don't know if that's what he wants, but it always happens.

I was against the trade, but people are talking like Subban is doing all that in Nashville on his own. They have a solid team. We'll never know, but I do think they'd be in the same spot with Weber.

...but then again, I'm not surprised. For some reason, everything turns around him. I don't know if that's what he wants, but it always happens.
- stinger67

plus journalists need to sell their news....and this works, plenty of fans will buy into the "Subban is the reason they are there"

"what if" they were banking on someone to bring the locker room together instead of splinter it? As well as teach the d prospects a thing or two? Subban is a really good player but he plays with no class on the ice. Nice that he gave money to the children's but that doesn't mean he can't be a wiener.
- kinigitt

Still baffled by this one since Subban's NHL debut.
Is fist pumping really that CLASSLESS?

Still baffled by this one since Subban's NHL debut
- Not_Yan

Yep, I think it started with Mike Richards' words of wisdom issued between two cocaine snorting sessions years ago.

Still baffled by this one since Subban's NHL debut.
Is fist pumping really that CLASSLESS?
- Not_Yan

He had a few dives, a few slewfoot infractions, I can understand why rival team fans don't like him much

Yep, I think it started with Mike Richards' words of wisdom issued between two cocaine snorting sessions years ago.
- stinger67

confirmed later on by Brad Marchand after Subban refused to let him remove one of his kneecaps.

He had a few dives, a few slewfoot infractions, I can understand why rival team fans don't like him much
- Symba007

seems like everyone loves him now

seems like everyone loves him now
- dt99999

of course they do....he went from top 50 D's to top 5 right after the trade

of course they do....he went from top 50 D's to top 5 right after the trade
- Symba007

the face of the NHL

the face of the NHL
- dt99999

dark humour, I like it

dark humour, I like it
- Symba007

seems like everyone loves him now
- dt99999

Yeah...he went from "what a slewfooting loudmouth diver piece of poop who won't drop'em" to "what an inspiration Habs got screwed how can you trade a player like that Montreal"

It's sickening.

Yeah...he went from "what a slewfooting loudmouth diver piece of poop who won't drop'em" to "what an inspiration Habs got screwed how can you trade a player like that Montreal"

It's sickening.
- stinger67

what's amazing is that it's the same media members who were bashing him when he was here who are the biggest cheerleaders

"There goes Subban, he's easy to spot"

-Bob Cole

wow guys, show some CLASS, comon

wow guys, show some CLASS, comon
- Not_Yan

Still baffled by this one since Subban's NHL debut.
Is fist pumping really that CLASSLESS?
- Not_Yan

Who said anything about fist pumping that's fine. He could be all cutesy and celebrate by taking off his jersey like a soccer player wouldn't bother me. It's the dirty poop behind the play, the daytime drama acting for the refs, etc. Doesn't need to do that stuff he's good enough without it.

I was against the trade, but people are talking like Subban is doing all that in Nashville on his own. They have a solid team. We'll never know, but I do think they'd be in the same spot with Weber.

...but then again, I'm not surprised. For some reason, everything turns around him. I don't know if that's what he wants, but it always happens.
- stinger67

Well, Jennifer is NOT talking as if he's "doing it all on his own". She correctly points out, however, that Nashville utilizes him according to his strengths, rather than trying to mould him into something he's not in order to satisfy the hierarchical nature of the Habs' "system". Weber clearly fits the "Montreal system" better than Subban--but, and with all due respect to Weber, that's an argument AGAINST "the system" when one has a talent like Subban (or Karlsson, or any number of high talent players). What Boucher did with Karlsson, and Laviolette did with Subban, is respect the fact they are extremely talented players and persuade them to adapt to the coach's plans WITHOUT simply trying to make them into something they aren't. In each case, they approached their players WITHOUT the intent to "break" them--something Therrien/Bergevin clearly did intend for Subban (as Tremblay did with Roy decades ago; and Lemaire did with Lafleur, further back--how did those pissing contests go, incidentally?).

Either a coach works with the strengths of the players on hand and adjusts accordingly, or a coach insists on "breaking" players who don't fit the mould--because the coach is "THE BOSS". The first approach is far better--better for the player, better for the team and better for the public (much more entertaining to watch). The second is an archaic remnant of earlier decades (that didn't even work all that well in "the gold old days").

If Therrien/Bergevin had had Bobby Orr on their roster, no doubt they'd have called his rushes into the offensive zone (where he frequently lost the puck, as Subban did in the Colorado game last season, leading Therrien to throw him under the bus) "selfish".

I grew up watching the Habs in the 70s--and while such a collection of talent is impossible in a cap era, having an uptempo, creative and entertaining playing philosophy is not. But when just about everyone making decisions on rosters and playing styles made their living as plumbers, perhaps that creativity simply isn't on hand. If so, time to clean house and join the 21st century.

- dt99999

Is that Stee on the right near the front of the class?

Who said anything about fist pumping that's fine. He could be all cutesy and celebrate by taking off his jersey like a soccer player wouldn't bother me. It's the dirty poop behind the play, the daytime drama acting for the refs, etc. Doesn't need to do that stuff he's good enough without it.
- kinigitt

He's not Duncan Keith dirty though is he?

Is that Stee on the right near the front of the class?
- golfingsince

probably not, stee failed the entrance exam to daycare.

probably not, stee failed the entrance exam to daycare.
- dt99999

As an adult.