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dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 10 @ 11:44 AM ET
How's that? That ticket wont be included in the season ticket package they will just have first rights to buy the tickets in a level equal to their seats.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


Stadium Series last year was set up where you could buy any seat available during your presale time slot if you wanted to pay the price for it.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 10 @ 11:44 AM ET
better question


why do we have to have buffalo in the spotlight to lose another game?


I mean if we are not losing super bowls, or cup finals

we are going 10 plus years w/o a playoff series win in hockey or 17 or so years w/o a playoff appearance in the nfl


I mean we get in the spotlight, and either get blown out or somehow find a way to screw it up in the end.


More misery for Buffalo fans and for me, if the last 40 years wasn't enough, throw another log on a fire for the entire country to see on a holiday

- homiedclown


jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 10 @ 11:45 AM ET
How's that? That ticket wont be included in the season ticket package they will just have first rights to buy the tickets in a level equal to their seats.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo



So it's not included as one of the 41 home game tickets? That's lame
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 10 @ 11:47 AM ET
http://thehockeywriters.com/buffalo-sabres-cannot-afford-to-trade-for-elite-defenseman/

Buffalo is too Thin All-Around to Survive Such a Trade

Having seen what it takes to trade for an elite defenseman, the question now becomes, “Can the Buffalo Sabres afford to make such a trade?”

The answer: technically, yes – if it wants to set itself back a few years



---Thanks again Timmy boy

- sbroads24


the argument doesnt make much sense. depth is easier to replace than a core piece. In fact the better the core, the easier it is to find depth that fits in.

The problem isnt whether we can afford it, its whether we can find it. They rarely become available unless another core player is going the other way.

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 10 @ 11:47 AM ET
http://thehockeywriters.com/buffalo-sabres-cannot-afford-to-trade-for-elite-defenseman/

Buffalo is too Thin All-Around to Survive Such a Trade

Having seen what it takes to trade for an elite defenseman, the question now becomes, “Can the Buffalo Sabres afford to make such a trade?”

The answer: technically, yes – if it wants to set itself back a few years



---Thanks again Timmy boy

- sbroads24

The 8th pick and maybe Reinhart may be able to get us a good D man for Risto. I know they were talking about moving the 8th pick this year but that was before Murray was fired.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 11:48 AM ET
the argument doesnt make much sense. depth is easier to replace than a core piece. In fact the better the core, the easier it is to find depth that fits in.

The problem isnt whether we can afford it, its whether we can find it. They rarely become available unless another core player is going the other way.

- Sabresfan-365

I am of the mind that you don't trade for your core. You draft them, and use trades to fill in holes.

This is where Murray screwed himself
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

May 10 @ 11:51 AM ET
I am of the mind that you don't trade for your core. You draft them, and use trades to fill in holes.

This is where Murray screwed himself

- sbroads24



Hello we have a winner!
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 10 @ 11:51 AM ET
So it's not included as one of the 41 home game tickets? That's lame
- jcragcrumple


Gary Bettman says hi
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

May 10 @ 11:53 AM ET
So it's not included as one of the 41 home game tickets? That's lame
- jcragcrumple



Should it be? Yes. Is it? No and will there be a 1 game discount on the total probably not lol
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 11:53 AM ET
The 8th pick and maybe Reinhart may be able to get us a good D man for Risto. I know they were talking about moving the 8th pick this year but that was before Murray was fired.
- SABRES 89

Which is probably right, but also puts a dent in our forward core + pipeline.

We are too thin everywhere right now.

Like I have said before, it's unreal that our future success hinges on Brendan Guhle, a former 2nd rounder who's played 3 games
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 10 @ 11:54 AM ET
I am of the mind that you don't trade for your core. You draft them, and use trades to fill in holes.

This is where Murray screwed himself

- sbroads24

agreed...but who are these elite d-men on the trade market that the sabres can't afford?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 10 @ 11:54 AM ET
I am of the mind that you don't trade for your core. You draft them, and use trades to fill in holes.

This is where Murray screwed himself

- sbroads24


i am too, which is why im pro tank for dahlin but im 99% sure pegula wont have that. Best they can hope for is someone has a falling out with their organization or cap troubles and be prepared to go all in.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 10 @ 11:55 AM ET
Which is probably right, but also puts a dent in our forward core + pipeline.

We are too thin everywhere right now.

Like I have said before, it's unreal that our future success hinges on Brendan Guhle, a former 2nd rounder who's played 3 games

- sbroads24

eight murray draft picks played in Game-6 last night...only 2 were first rounders, and only one was a 3rd
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 10 @ 11:56 AM ET
eight murray draft picks played in Game-6 last night...only 2 were first rounders, and only one was a 3rd
- Michael Pachla



Do we know for a fact that they were specifically TM picks? Karlsson yes but?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 10 @ 11:56 AM ET
Which is probably right, but also puts a dent in our forward core + pipeline.

We are too thin everywhere right now.

Like I have said before, it's unreal that our future success hinges on Brendan Guhle, a former 2nd rounder who's played 3 games

- sbroads24

Unfortunately this is where we are as of now, we can find a player close to Sam but a Dman will be harder to find IMO.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 10 @ 11:57 AM ET
Gary Bettman says hi
- Matthews_Auston


Bettman: "It's a Sabres home game!"

Fan: "Well that's a little far away, but it's part of my season tix, so i guess i'll go"

GB: "Well, it's not part of your season tickets"

F: "So it's not a home game?"

GB: "Well, you're only paying for 40 'home-home' games, and you'll get second crack at tickets after Mets fans."

F: "So it's not a home game?"

GB: *backs away slowly*

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 11:57 AM ET
agreed...but who are these elite d-men on the trade market that the sabres can't afford?
- Michael Pachla

From skimming the article, they are just speaking in general terms.

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 10 @ 11:58 AM ET
Do we know for a fact that they were specifically TM picks? Karlsson yes but?
- Sabresfan-365

he was agm from 2007 to jan 2014....he's a career scout...that should be a pretty good indication that his fingerprints are all over those picks
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 10 @ 11:59 AM ET
From skimming the article, they are just speaking in general terms.
- sbroads24

that's troublesome in that you could say that about a ton of teams...it's a pile-on
Stadtusquo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Stevenson Ranch, CA
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 10 @ 11:59 AM ET
Bettman: "It's a Sabres home game!"

Fan: "Well that's a little far away, but it's part of my season tix, so i guess i'll go"

GB: "Well, it's not part of your season tickets"

F: "So it's not a home game?"

GB: "Well, you're only paying for 40 'home-home' games, and you'll get second crack at tickets after Mets fans."

F: "So it's not a home game?"

GB: *backs away slowly*

- jcragcrumple

SOLID!!!!!
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 10 @ 11:59 AM ET
he was agm from 2007 to jan 2014....he's a career scout...that should be a pretty good indication that his fingerprints are all over those picks
- Michael Pachla


and he was GM here with less time to scout, so does his potential success with picks in ottawa have anything to do with the picks made here?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 10 @ 12:00 PM ET
Bettman: "It's a Sabres home game!"

Fan: "Well that's a little far away, but it's part of my season tix, so i guess i'll go"

GB: "Well, it's not part of your season tickets"

F: "So it's not a home game?"

GB: "Well, you're only paying for 40 'home-home' games, and you'll get second crack at tickets after Mets fans."

F: "So it's not a home game?"

GB: *backs away slowly*

- jcragcrumple



Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 10 @ 12:01 PM ET
and he was GM here with less time to scout, so does his potential success with picks in ottawa have anything to do with the picks made here?
- Sabresfan-365

he brought in two pieces from his ott scouting dept...he's a scout by trade and his scouting department built most of that Ottawa team with picks in the lower portion of the draft...I don't get the argument
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 12:02 PM ET
eight murray draft picks played in Game-6 last night...only 2 were first rounders, and only one was a 3rd
- Michael Pachla

Which is solid.

The confusing part to me is how it was all put together.

If we had to wait for his picks to pan out (which would be fine) why did he trade so many, and why did he effectively waste 2 years of Eichel ROR Kane etc.?

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 10 @ 12:04 PM ET
he brought in two pieces from his ott scouting dept...he's a scout by trade and his scouting department built most of that Ottawa team with picks in the lower portion of the draft...I don't get the argument
- Michael Pachla



That's my argument.

You're giving him full credit for picks made in ottawa as AGM, assuming his fingerprints were all over it. Not Bryan, not Pierre Dorion not Royce who he brought with him.

But here he was GM and while he's a scout by trade, his job gave him far less time to do that, leaving the bulk of that to Royce and co.
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