The same way Alzner might get 5.5. something something hitting something something grit something something shot blocking.

Seriously I gotta believe Botterill is smarter than that. Cant see a cap guy paying that for what he brings
- Sabresfan-365

let's put it this way, botterill has seen a lot of alzner...any decision he makes on him will be well researched using both the eye test and analytics

let's put it this way, botterill has seen a lot of alzner...any decision he makes on him will be well researched using both the eye test and analytics
- Michael Pachla

Certainly hope so, dont know what kind of pressure he's under from pegula and co.

those are shot attempts, not shots on goal, correct?
- Michael Pachla

Everybody sucks and I have an algebraic formula that will prove it.

yes, but that doesnt help your case here. He gave up the highest Shots against per 60 of any d-man on the caps


He and Carlson gave up a ton of shot attempts and shots per game, but carlson generated many himself.
- Sabresfan-365

the big problem i have with generalizations like that is that they don't include the situations and that includes what kind of shots against/for and where they came from who they were playing with, whom they were playing against...etc...

Certainly hope so, dont know what kind of pressure he's under from pegula and co.
- Sabresfan-365

i hope he's under no pressure from a personnel standpoint...that said, i agree with you, the sabres don't need alzner at $5m +

the big problem i have with generalizations like that is that they don't include the situations and that includes what kind of shots against/for and where they came from who they were playing with, whom they were playing against...etc...
- Michael Pachla

high danger scoring chances against he ranks towards the bottom

according to that chart he saw most of his time with carlson and niskanen

i assume who they were playing against becomes irrelevant when you factor in 82 games and the fact that he was playing for the best team in the league, or close to it.

i hope he's under no pressure from a personnel standpoint...that said, i agree with you, the sabres don't need alzner at $5m +
- Michael Pachla

He's much smarter got access to far more resources so if he really believes alzner is the answer then i guess im on board, but you hope its cause of that and not cause terry said break the bank and get to 8th place this year.

Everybody sucks and I have an algebraic formula that will prove it.
- Der Kaiser

your words

He's much smarter got access to far more resources so if he really believes alzner is the answer then i guess im on board, but you hope its cause of that and not cause terry said break the bank and get to 8th place this year.
- Sabresfan-365

Would he even come here to be the GM if he thought there was even a chance of that being the case?

He was anything but urgent and was entirely about patience with a proper build up so far with everything he has said.

He's much smarter got access to far more resources so if he really believes alzner is the answer then i guess im on board, but you hope its cause of that and not cause terry said break the bank and get to 8th place this year.
- Sabresfan-365

we'll see....have been seeing/hearing alzner's name slowly creep into the conversation on defense

Would he even come here to be the GM if he thought there was even a chance of that being the case?

He was anything but urgent and was entirely about patience with a proper build up so far with everything he has said.
- kingcong39

I dont know tbh, but its not uncommon for guys to jump on opportunities like that because how often do they come along?

we'll see....have been seeing/hearing alzner's name slowly creep into the conversation on defense
- Michael Pachla

media or within the organization?

media or within the organization?
- Sabresfan-365

media

media
- Michael Pachla

not surprising *oh look lefty D he sabres must go after him*.

Im really hoping the leafs sign him

not surprising *oh look lefty D he sabres must go after him*.

Im really hoping the leafs sign him
- Sabresfan-365

maybe, but it's also a very thin market for defensemen

maybe, but it's also a very thin market for defensemen
- Michael Pachla

which is why i have a hard time wondering why the expectations are so high for botts in his first year.

Has to add 2 top 4 d-men minimum is the common theme. oh really is that all?


I just want to see them compete 5v5 and score more. Another lottery pick wouldnt hurt this team.

which is why i have a hard time wondering why the expectations are so high for botts in his first year.

Has to add 2 top 4 d-men minimum is the common theme. oh really is that all?


I just want to see them compete 5v5 and score more. Another lottery pick wouldnt hurt this team.
- Sabresfan-365

i'm not looking for them to do to much and there's a big piece of me that would like to see what this team as mostly constructed would do under a different coach..."mostly" because they really need to move a contract or two and we'll probably be seeing plenty of guhle and (probably) antipin on the blueline

i'm not looking for them to do to much and there's a big piece of me that would like to see what this team as mostly constructed would do under a different coach..."mostly" because they really need to move a contract or two and we'll probably be seeing plenty of guhle and (probably) antipin on the blueline
- Michael Pachla

Yeah thats true, moving the dead weight should be the top priority. At least set yourself up to add should the opportunity come by.

Yeah thats true, moving the dead weight should be the top priority. At least set yourself up to add should the opportunity come by.
- Sabresfan-365

kinda like when football teams are in a cap-crunch...they spend a year getting out of it but set themselves up for success

I know, most of the players are way above that diagonal line when away from alzner...


Im not saying he wasnt(shatt) but judging players based on 7 games is exactly how people tried to convince themselves that kulikov would make a good top pair mate for risto
- Sabresfan-365

This

kinda like when football teams are in a cap-crunch...they spend a year getting out of it but set themselves up for success
- Michael Pachla

Bingo

People realize Alzner was routinely benched during the Pens series, right?

Played 8:42 in game 7
Played 12:12 in game 6
Played 9:35 in game 5

Why would we be talking him up?

People realize Alzner was routinely benched during the Pens series, right?

Played 8:42 in game 7
Played 12:12 in game 6
Played 9:35 in game 5

Why would we be talking him up?
- sbroads24

Were you even at those games? I was. 13 rows up. Center ice. Alzner was the best defenseman.

Were you even at those games? I was. 13 rows up. Center ice. Alzner was the best defenseman.
- CaptainRivet

I'm actually Phil Kessel.

Right! I love this concept that the sabres are just desperate to rid themselves of this 28-goal scorer in his mid 20s and will take anything to get him out of here.
- Deuce81

If Ek says we are trying to trade Kane it probably means we are about to extend him
Hahaha