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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
I'm just not to sure about Duchene, he can be just as streaky as Galchenyuk. And for the sake of the developement pf #27, coaching staff/management really need to stop to yo-yo him. Besides, the asking price for Duchene is just ridiculous. The package of Galchenyuk, Sergachev and our 1st should be given for a guy like Mckinnon or Tavares, not Duchene IMO.
- Habsody


I don't think I would give up those assets for any of the names listed.

If Tavares goes unsigned into next season, maybe the Habs should start clearing cap space

Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

May 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
Avs are a worse team, but then again they also, clearly, require less commitment to defense than the Habs have.

Those numbers are much closer than I would have guessed.

- Aetherial


Yeah, Duchene had an atroceous year with a mere 41 pts while Galchenyuk has been stone cold since coming back from his injury. Truth is, he was just fine playing center prior to his injury. Then again, up and down in the lineup, back to the wing, that's just not how you develop a young offensive forward.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
Yeah, hopefully a trade for Tavares would include a contract extension...but hey Bergy has done some mind boggling moves during his tenure so who knows.
- Habsody


I think it would be a good idea to trade a 3rd round pick for Tavares' rights next summer, before you know whether he has any interest in playing for your tea...

ooops, sorry, wrong thread.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
Yeah, Duchene had an atroceous year with a mere 41 pts while Galchenyuk has been stone cold since coming back from his injury. Truth is, he was just fine playing center prior to his injury. Then again, up and down in the lineup, back to the wing, that's just not how you develop a young offensive forward.
- Habsody


I'm really hoping management and his teamates will wake him up and make him focus on hockey....

He showed us at the end of last year and before getting injured this year what he could become.... which is exactly what the Habs need.... a true #1 centre.
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

May 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
I don't think I would give up those assets for any of the names listed.

If Tavares goes unsigned into next season, maybe the Habs should start clearing cap space

- Aetherial


Considering the loss of PK, and the dumbness of Beaulieu, Sergachev is very very valuable to this organization. He is their only quality prospect. On the other hand, Habs desperately need help down the middle...
WaterBoy
Location: The opposite of what Pat says, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

May 17 @ 11:49 AM ET
I'm really hoping management and his teamates will wake him up and make him focus on hockey....

He showed us at the end of last year and before getting injured this year what he could become.... which is exactly what the Habs need.... a true #1 centre.

- Scabeh

He could be a legit 1st line winger.

Never a legit #1 center.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
Exactly. I don't see the point in trading him.
- stinger67


What about trading Price?

I am not saying he isn't the best goalie on the planet, and one of the top handful of true franchise players...

but he did have some ordinary stretches this year and is going to ask huge dollars, long term and has an injury history.

If you could land a young #1C for him, instead of commiting 70-80 million over 8 years, do you consider that?.

I threw out Price for Schiefele on the Leafs thread... is that a reasonable idea (give or take) ... or is trading Price something that will never be considered.
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

May 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
I'm really hoping management and his teamates will wake him up and make him focus on hockey....

He showed us at the end of last year and before getting injured this year what he could become.... which is exactly what the Habs need.... a true #1 centre.

- Scabeh


Yeah, dealing his party buddy wouldn't hurt neither. The captain should also mentor him, but again, how can you go out and tell young players what to do when you end up scoring 0 goal in the playoffs, leading the team in "outside the bell" shots.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
I'm really hoping management and his teamates will wake him up and make him focus on hockey....

He showed us at the end of last year and before getting injured this year what he could become.... which is exactly what the Habs need.... a true #1 centre.

- Scabeh


He is probably somewhere between that stretch and this past half season. During that stretch he was playing in "garbage time". Leafs fans have a long history of remembering how well guys played when nothing was at stake.
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

May 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
He could be a legit 1st line winger.

Never a legit #1 center.

- WaterBoy


He was very good before his injury playing center. He actually was more valuable then Radulov. This is a never ending debate but with the emergence of Lehkonen, if they don't plan to play him center, trade him for one.
WaterBoy
Location: The opposite of what Pat says, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

May 17 @ 11:53 AM ET
He was very good before his injury playing center. He actually was more valuable then Radulov. This is a never ending debate but with the emergence of Lehkonen, if they don't plan to play him center, trade him for one.
- Habsody

He had 20 great games as a center playing against 3rd lines...

Think it's time for fans to realise he was never that much of a center. Doesn't make him a bad player. If he gets his poop together, he could have a great career playing in the top 6 as a winger.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 17 @ 11:58 AM ET
He had 20 great games as a center playing against 3rd lines...

Think it's time for fans to realise he was never that much of a center. Doesn't make him a bad player. If he gets his poop together, he could have a great career playing in the top 6 as a winger.

- WaterBoy


I kind of agree with Habsody. I think the uncertainty hasn't helped him.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

May 17 @ 12:10 PM ET
What about trading Price?

I am not saying he isn't the best goalie on the planet, and one of the top handful of true franchise players...

but he did have some ordinary stretches this year and is going to ask huge dollars, long term and has an injury history.

If you could land a young #1C for him, instead of commiting 70-80 million over 8 years, do you consider that?.

I threw out Price for Schiefele on the Leafs thread... is that a reasonable idea (give or take) ... or is trading Price something that will never be considered.

- Aetherial


Habs have an average defense and an horrible offense...trading Price would just be moving the problem around. It wouldn't make them better
WaterBoy
Location: The opposite of what Pat says, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

May 17 @ 12:10 PM ET
I kind of agree with Habsody. I think the uncertainty hasn't helped him.
- Aetherial

Uncertainty? He was given all the tools available to make him work... there's no uncertainty with Chucky, only late night partying and a not giving a (frank) attitude.

WaterBoy
Location: The opposite of what Pat says, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

May 17 @ 12:11 PM ET
Habs have an average defense and an horrible offense...trading Price would just be moving the problem around. It wouldn't make them better
- stinger67

Bobby Mac saying Price is close to signing a deal with a home town discount.

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/m...ey-cups-or-money-1.754076


Good news if so.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 17 @ 12:15 PM ET
He was very good before his injury playing center. He actually was more valuable then Radulov. This is a never ending debate but with the emergence of Lehkonen, if they don't plan to play him center, trade him for one.
- Habsody


this debate is over. CJ stated Chucky will play wing. thank you
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 17 @ 12:16 PM ET
What about trading Price?

I am not saying he isn't the best goalie on the planet, and one of the top handful of true franchise players...

but he did have some ordinary stretches this year and is going to ask huge dollars, long term and has an injury history.

If you could land a young #1C for him, instead of commiting 70-80 million over 8 years, do you consider that?.

I threw out Price for Schiefele on the Leafs thread... is that a reasonable idea (give or take) ... or is trading Price something that will never be considered.

- Aetherial


no other way around if they want to move forward imo
WaterBoy
Location: The opposite of what Pat says, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

May 17 @ 12:53 PM ET
http://www.bardown.com/fo...than-nfl-players-1.754104

DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

May 17 @ 12:56 PM ET
What about trading Price?

I am not saying he isn't the best goalie on the planet, and one of the top handful of true franchise players...

but he did have some ordinary stretches this year and is going to ask huge dollars, long term and has an injury history.

If you could land a young #1C for him, instead of commiting 70-80 million over 8 years, do you consider that?.

I threw out Price for Schiefele on the Leafs thread... is that a reasonable idea (give or take) ... or is trading Price something that will never be considered.

- Aetherial


i would do it in a heartbeat. but i don't think he would bring in that type of return.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 17 @ 1:01 PM ET
i would do it in a heartbeat. but i don't think he would bring in that type of return.
- DoubleDown

Jocelyn Thibault, Martin Ručinský and Andrei Kovalenko
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

May 17 @ 1:06 PM ET
Glachenyuk / Price / Pacioretty traded yet?
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

May 17 @ 1:10 PM ET
no other way around if they want to move forward imo
- fidopro

It's hard to trade a star player. You almost never get fair value.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

May 17 @ 1:12 PM ET
Jocelyn Thibault, Martin Ručinský and Andrei Kovalenko
- Symba007


exactly. first line centers are more of a premium commodity than top tier goalies.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 17 @ 1:14 PM ET
It's hard to trade a star player. You almost never get fair value.
- twiztedmike


We all know that. The point is not to win the trade.
It seems much easier to find a goalie, look at EDM, CAR, MINN...etc. plus Habs a good pipeline of G, than to find a center.
As of today Habs need not 1 but 2 top6 centers. And they are boring as hell to watch. Wanna bet who will win the Molson Cup next year?
They need to find a center. Who else can they trade to get one? Beaulieu? I don't think so.
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

May 17 @ 1:15 PM ET
exactly. first line centers are more of a premium commodity than top tier goalies.
- DoubleDown



You can have a system that covers for some of your goalies faults.

Hard to have a system that compensates for a total lack of skill at the forward position.
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