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Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

May 25 @ 1:05 AM ET
What would you think if Botterill snags fleury out of Pittsburgh yea or nay for a 2nd and 5th?or something like that?
- MR.Hunter

I would say you got a steal of a deal and a definite upgrade on Robin Arryn.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 25 @ 2:29 AM ET
What would you think if Botterill snags fleury out of Pittsburgh yea or nay for a 2nd and 5th?or something like that?
- MR.Hunter



he's already committed to lehner and I cant see MAF waiving for here.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

May 25 @ 7:13 AM ET
What would you think if Botterill snags fleury out of Pittsburgh yea or nay for a 2nd and 5th?or something like that?
- MR.Hunter


Nay, nay
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 25 @ 7:52 AM ET
he's already committed to lehner and I cant see MAF waiving for here.
- Sabresfan-365

It wasnt a glowing commitment.

I would Take Fleury on the cheap (3rd rd pick) and try to move Lehner on a sign and trade.
Just not a big Lehner fan.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

May 25 @ 7:54 AM ET
To seriously answer your question. What's a GM/AGM's job right now as a playoff team? To get his team ready for next year, draft, looking at FAs, dealing with expansion. And if you know you're going to be leaving for another team what's the difference if it's now, or in 6 weeks(from hire date)?

I think had expansion not been this year we'd have gone until the end of the Pens run, but with the time crunch and so much to accomplish in so little a time it was necessary to be a bit unorthodox, and Pittsburgh let him go too, so it's not like he stole away in the middle of the night like Art Modell.

- Wetbandit1


I just think that a guy that helped put together this team would be riding the highs & lows with them in the trenches, not sitting behind another organisations head office desk looking at what needs to be done - that's just me.

I understand it's his team now & he needs to get right into it though.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

May 25 @ 8:03 AM ET
What would you think if Botterill snags fleury out of Pittsburgh yea or nay for a 2nd and 5th?or something like that?
- MR.Hunter

IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

May 25 @ 8:06 AM ET
It wasnt a glowing commitment.

I would Take Fleury on the cheap (3rd rd pick) and try to move Lehner on a sign and trade.
Just not a big Lehner fan.

- ImThatGuy

addressing goaltending should be the last thing on his list..

1. Defense
2. defense
3. defense
4. top 6 winger
5. move kane (may be part of 1, 2 or 3)
6. defense
7. goalie
Deuce81
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.11.2016

May 25 @ 8:43 AM ET
If we promise Petersen NHL time this year, does that get him to sign?

I will be very angry if we lose him.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 25 @ 8:49 AM ET
What would you think if Botterill snags fleury out of Pittsburgh yea or nay for a 2nd and 5th?or something like that?
- MR.Hunter

hell no

maybe MAF and a 2nd for a 5th


goaltending has never been a problem for this team
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 25 @ 8:51 AM ET
If we promise Petersen NHL time this year, does that get him to sign?

I will be very angry if we lose him.

- Deuce81

Deuce81
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.11.2016

May 25 @ 8:57 AM ET

- homiedclown


Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

May 25 @ 9:21 AM ET
this is interesting

"Darren Dreger also said on the Instigators that no team has offered a package for Kane while he's been in Buffalo. "

- homiedclown


A "package". Do we even want that?

We would want a 1 for 1. A package implies younger non-NHL players, picks or NHL players that are average or below.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 25 @ 9:21 AM ET
Sabres getting a new uniform

http://news.sportslogos.n...-new-uniforms-in-2017-18/
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 25 @ 9:23 AM ET
If we promise Petersen NHL time this year, does that get him to sign?

I will be very angry if we lose him.

- Deuce81


He's already gone
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

May 25 @ 9:24 AM ET
If we promise Petersen NHL time this year, does that get him to sign?

I will be very angry if we lose him.

- Deuce81


I think you have to make sure you get him signed. If that means trading Lehner then that might be the move. We can't pay a lot for a goalie in Lehner that cant stop a any shootout shots. Nor do I want to pay a lot for a goalie at all, so no Fleury for me (even though he is a great goalie), only way I consider is if Pitt holds some salary back to get him around $4 mil. But he only has 1 year left on his deal anyway, fyi.
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

May 25 @ 9:28 AM ET
Peterson is still around for now but I think we are in a better spot than before with Murray due not being as tied to Lehner

What do you guys think of trading for Landeskog? Had a down year like the rest of their team but he might fill the shoes of a LW if Kane is traded for a dman. Even if Kane isnt traded I would like to see them go after him if they dont think Bailey or Baptiste can fill that spot just yet
Deuce81
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.11.2016

May 25 @ 9:44 AM ET
Peterson is still around for now but I think we are in a better spot than before with Murray due not being as tied to Lehner

What do you guys think of trading for Landeskog? Had a down year like the rest of their team but he might fill the shoes of a LW if Kane is traded for a dman. Even if Kane isnt traded I would like to see them go after him if they dont think Bailey or Baptiste can fill that spot just yet

- Beezer33


I agree, I don't hate Lehner but I don't want to commit big money to him, as I believe you can find comparable production without overpaying. Petersen is high potential, low-cost.

I like Landeskog, but it just depends on the price. It will be interesting to see if Botterill wants to completely reshuffle the dressing room or if he thinks subtracting one or two problem players will help.
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

May 25 @ 9:53 AM ET
I agree, I don't hate Lehner but I don't want to commit big money to him, as I believe you can find comparable production without overpaying. Petersen is high potential, low-cost.

I like Landeskog, but it just depends on the price. It will be interesting to see if Botterill wants to completely reshuffle the dressing room or if he thinks subtracting one or two problem players will help.

- Deuce81



He would be one that has high character and could play with Jack or ROR easily. Not sure how they would feel about him on their wing but having Kane and Landeskog as top two LW, trade #8 for a (name a dman) and youre in business.

I would think we could get Landy for next years 1st and a prospect
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 25 @ 10:02 AM ET
I think you have to make sure you get him signed. If that means trading Lehner then that might be the move. We can't pay a lot for a goalie in Lehner that cant stop a any shootout shots. Nor do I want to pay a lot for a goalie at all, so no Fleury for me (even though he is a great goalie), only way I consider is if Pitt holds some salary back to get him around $4 mil. But he only has 1 year left on his deal anyway, fyi.
- Lilroot9

Personally, I would trade Lehner for the 21st pick in the draft, but that's me
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 25 @ 10:07 AM ET
He would be one that has high character and could play with Jack or ROR easily. Not sure how they would feel about him on their wing but having Kane and Landeskog as top two LW, trade #8 for a (name a dman) and youre in business.

I would think we could get Landy for next years 1st and a prospect

- Beezer33

IMO nylander, mccabe and 2018 first is what it would take
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

May 25 @ 10:07 AM ET
Matt Murray is not the backup, MAF is. This became Murray's team last year. MAF will be playing for a new team next year.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 25 @ 10:11 AM ET
Personally, I would trade Lehner for the 21st pick in the draft, but that's me
- sbroads24

Lehner to the Flames for Oliver Kylington

5th rd pick to Islanders for Halak (1 year left)

sign Cal and tell him it's open competition for the starting goalie
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 25 @ 10:13 AM ET
Matt Murray is not the backup, MAF is. This became Murray's team last year. MAF will be playing for a new team next year.
- Dcoms

or Murray will be playing for Vegas
Deuce81
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.11.2016

May 25 @ 10:17 AM ET
Lehner to the Flames for Oliver Kylington

5th rd pick to Islanders for Halak (1 year left)

sign Cal and tell him it's open competition for the starting goalie

- homiedclown


Sign me up.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

May 25 @ 10:24 AM ET
I just think that a guy that helped put together this team would be riding the highs & lows with them in the trenches, not sitting behind another organisations head office desk looking at what needs to be done - that's just me.

I understand it's his team now & he needs to get right into it though.

- Aussiepenguin


But if you look at it from a business standpoint, he's got to break into a fraternity that only has 30 (31 with Vegas) people in it. Sure, he probably knows most of them, but this is his job. To be successful as a GM requires probably more than any on this board can fathom. You can't be a beady-eyed douche drunk at the local tavern to be successful, or many on here could probably do it. Think of it this way, if you started a new job that requires you to directly compete with 30 counterparts and you have the choice to stay at your old employment for another month and a half or jump right into it (and not even get a head start as the other 30 counterparts are established) or hang around with a business, knowing you're halfway out the door and not really contributing to that organization anymore? It makes most practical sense to go to the new employment. So, in summation, no that isn't a bad look for his character or something that we (me) as Buffalo fans need to worry about because he has no where to go upwards. He's reached the pinnacle of his profession, and he would probably only move to another GM spot, which as I've mentioned don't open up that often. Hope I've answered your question
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