Sabres need to trade kane for theodore
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I don't think that helps them

Sabres need to trade kane for theodore
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Chances they traded Theodore was slime before (bc he was one of the defensemen they didn't have to protect)...
but now that Vatenan will miss the beginning of the season & Lindholm might as well, there is ZERO chance that either Theodore or Montour will be moved

Ducks defense to start next year currently looks like this:
Fowler-Montour
Theodore-Manson (if they don't trade him, to us! )
Stoner-Bieksa (if they don't buy him out)

Next up- Larson

Injured- Lindholm, Vatanen, Despres (can he come back from missing this whole season bc of a concussion?)

It's amazing that they could trade Manson, trade Bieksa, and still have a top 3 blue line.
- sbroads24

That's what happens when u keep drafting defensemen high

You know who would probably fetch us a young potential top 4 D like Manson, Brodin, etc, - Colin White, Travis Konecny or Jack Roslovic.

They wouldn't have to be protected, and they wouldn't be a year away from UFA.
They also aren't goalies



Thanks again Tim

That's what happens when u keep drafting defensemen high
- jdfitz77

But Gerbe doesn't want to draft defense that high....

But Gerbe doesn't want to draft defense that high....
- jochfr

Something something takes 50 years. something something, Zach Bogosian, Something something, cherry picked stat.

You know who would probably fetch us a young potential top 4 D like Manson, Brodin, etc, - Colin White, Travis Konecny or Jack Roslovic.

They wouldn't have to be protected, and they wouldn't be a year away from UFA.
They also aren't goalies



Thanks again Tim
- sbroads24

Stop chewing on this bone.

None of those three has shown anywhere near the value that Manson or Brodin has, so to suggest that a straight up hockey trade would get done on that basis is rather silly.

Also, "they aren't goalies" would mean the Sabres would still need one. And while they are easier to acquire than the stud D are, maybe we should cut Murray a little slack on the failure to acquire a stud D given how hard we all agree it is to get one.

He's gone, stop obsessing over him.

Stop chewing on this bone.

None of those three has shown anywhere near the value that Manson or Brodin has, so to suggest that a straight up hockey trade would get done on that basis is rather silly.

Also, "they aren't goalies" would mean the Sabres would still need one. And while they are easier to acquire than the stud D are, maybe we should cut Murray a little slack on the failure to acquire a stud D given how hard we all agree it is to get one.

He's gone, stop obsessing over him.
- Der Kaiser

they all had decent years, most of their value would be potential and that fact that they dont need to be paid big money yet.

That's what happens when u keep drafting defensemen high
- jdfitz77

??

The only d-man in that bunch that was drafted top 10 is Hampus

Stop chewing on this bone.

None of those three has shown anywhere near the value that Manson or Brodin has, so to suggest that a straight up hockey trade would get done on that basis is rather silly.

Also, "they aren't goalies" would mean the Sabres would still need one. And while they are easier to acquire than the stud D are, maybe we should cut Murray a little slack on the failure to acquire a stud D given how hard we all agree it is to get one.

He's gone, stop obsessing over him.
- Der Kaiser

Never said straight up. But they absolutely would be more enticing to teams like ANA or Minny than someone like Kane, who would have to be protected and re-signed.

I'm also not obsessed with Murray, I'm obsessed with the fact that he was so bad at his job.

Also, Eff Lehner, and the Sens organization he and Murray came from

they all had decent years, most of their value would be potential and that fact that they dont need to be paid big money yet.
- Sabresfan-365

Maybe I was dreaming, but wasn't Konecny on the same team Canada that ROR was?

Maybe I was dreaming, but wasn't Konecny on the same team Canada that ROR was?
- sbroads24

there's a canadian tire joke here i just havent figured it out yet



Konecny+Greiss probably does a lot more for this team today

there's a canadian tire joke here i just havent figured it out yet



Konecny+Greiss probably does a lot more for this team today
- Sabresfan-365

Maybe, but I wasn't thinking of one.

I'm honestly baffled that more people can't see how badly this got messed up.

We have an expansion draft, where a few teams HAVE to trade competent D men, and we don't have the ammo to get a deal done without creating holes somewhere else.

Maybe, but I wasn't thinking of one.

I'm honestly baffled that more people can't see how badly this got messed up.

We have an expansion draft, where a few teams HAVE to trade competent D men, and we don't have the ammo to get a deal done without creating holes somewhere else.
- sbroads24

power forwards who score 40 points are rare in a league where you dont really need power forwards.


poop, wait....

How Anaheim's defense got so deep...

Lindholm- drafted 1st round (#6) 2012
Fowler- drafted 1st round (#12) 2010
Vatanen- drafted 4th round 2009
Manson- drafted 6th round 2011
Bieksa- signed UFA 2015
Stoner- signed UFA 2014
Montour- drafted 2nd round 2014
Theodore- drafted 1st round 2013
Despres- traded for, originally drafted by Pitt- 1st round 2009

On the way:
Jacob Larsson- drafted 1st round 2015
Keaton Thompson- drafted 3rd round 2013
Marcus Pettersson- drafted 2nd round 2014
Josh Mahura- drafted 3rd round 2016

Young guys in the system who may/ may not make it:
Andrew Welinski- drafted 3rd round 2011
Jaycob Megna- drafted 7th round 2012


* they also drafted Jake Gardner & Justin Schultz in rounds 1&2 of 2008

You know who would probably fetch us a young potential top 4 D like Manson, Brodin, etc, - Colin White, Travis Konecny or Jack Roslovic.

They wouldn't have to be protected, and they wouldn't be a year away from UFA.
They also aren't goalies

Thanks again Tim
- sbroads24

I was ok with trading for Lehner,
but hated that we gave up the 1st to do it

I think Konecny would've been the obvious pick there
Still don't know why he fell so far? He should've gone top12ish