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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 26 @ 11:21 AM ET
Money talks

Also, I think fedun fits Botterill's vision more than Falk

- jcragcrumple



Fedun would be a nice depth signing
Can start in Rochester & be called up

I'd also be cool if we signed Mike Weber to Captain Rochester
He'd be perfect imo
And send a low round pick to Philly to bring back Tj Brennan

Need to take care of the Rochester defense
All we have there right now is Nelson, & Austin if we re-sign him
Florentino will be a rookie
I'd probably pass on the others

Guhle & Borgen (if signed) could also start there
gipper0073
Joined: 02.03.2010

May 26 @ 11:21 AM ET
I'm thinking/hoping that Antipin will be a dman along the lines of an Andrei Sekera. Hopefully, with a bit more offense to him. If he can turn into that...that'd be huge for this team.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 26 @ 11:22 AM ET
me too although I really liked falk's game last year...key for botts is moving at least one dead-weight contract...two would be ideal and if he happened to move both bogo and gorges, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it
- Michael Pachla



Bogo is tough to move
Gorges can probably be traded, or easily bought out cheap
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 26 @ 11:22 AM ET
How Anaheim's defense got so deep...

Lindholm- drafted 1st round (#6) 2012
Fowler- drafted 1st round (#12) 2010
Vatanen- drafted 4th round 2009
Manson- drafted 6th round 2011
Bieksa- signed UFA 2015
Stoner- signed UFA 2014
Montour- drafted 2nd round 2014
Theodore- drafted 1st round 2013
Despres- traded for, originally drafted by Pitt- 1st round 2009

On the way:
Jacob Larsson- drafted 1st round 2015
Keaton Thompson- drafted 3rd round 2013
Marcus Pettersson- drafted 2nd round 2014
Josh Mahura- drafted 3rd round 2016

Young guys in the system who may/ may not make it:
Andrew Welinski- drafted 3rd round 2011
Jaycob Megna- drafted 7th round 2012


* they also drafted Jake Gardner & Justin Schultz in rounds 1&2 of 2008
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

May 26 @ 11:23 AM ET
How long is Vatanen out? If he's healthy before the Expansion he could be traded. I still think Anaheim's order of protection goes:
Fowler
Lindholm
Vatanen
Manson

They'll have to figure out Bieksa, while Montour and Theodore are exempt. Keep in mind they could also just trade Vegas something and say 'pick one of these lesser guys', it'd have to be quite the sweetener but it's happened in previous expansions.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 11:24 AM ET
Dylan Demelo maybe?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 26 @ 11:25 AM ET
me too although I really liked falk's game last year...key for botts is moving at least one dead-weight contract...two would be ideal and if he happened to move both bogo and gorges, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it
- Michael Pachla



Yeah moving both would be a great. I still think the Sabres can be a playoff team with Bogo, but not with Gorges. If you can get someone to take Bogo's contract, i would do it, but not if it means giving up meaningful assets.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 26 @ 11:26 AM ET
Fedun would be a nice depth signing
Can start in Rochester & be called up

I'd also be cool if we signed Mike Weber to Captain Rochester
He'd be perfect imo
And send a low round pick to Philly to bring back Tj Brennan

Need to take care of the Rochester defense
All we have there right now is Nelson, & Austin if we re-sign him
Florentino will be a rookie
I'd probably pass on the others

Guhle & Borgen (if signed) could also start there

- jdfitz77



I'd be very surprised if Fedun hasn't earned himself a one-way contract somewhere.

Is mike weber still an active player?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 11:30 AM ET
I'd be very surprised if Fedun hasn't earned himself a one-way contract somewhere.

Is mike weber still an active player?

- jcragcrumple


the fancy stats for him are good, someone will give him an nhl job.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 26 @ 11:30 AM ET
How long is Vatanen out? If he's healthy before the Expansion he could be traded. I still think Anaheim's order of protection goes:
Fowler
Lindholm
Vatanen
Manson

They'll have to figure out Bieksa, while Montour and Theodore are exempt. Keep in mind they could also just trade Vegas something and say 'pick one of these lesser guys', it'd have to be quite the sweetener but it's happened in previous expansions.

- ObeseOprah



Vatanen had surgery
Will miss the start of next season
Unlikely he's traded now

Bieksa will waive or be bought out

They'll protect 7-3-1 (so they don't lose Silfverberg)
Manson likely traded imo
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 26 @ 11:30 AM ET


Is mike weber still an active player?

- jcragcrumple

ufa

played ahl for wild team last year
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 26 @ 11:31 AM ET
I'd be very surprised if Fedun hasn't earned himself a one-way contract somewhere.

Is mike weber still an active player?

- jcragcrumple



Played on Minny's AHL team this year
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 26 @ 11:31 AM ET
Fedun would be a nice depth signing
Can start in Rochester & be called up

I'd also be cool if we signed Mike Weber to Captain Rochester
He'd be perfect imo
And send a low round pick to Philly to bring back Tj Brennan

Need to take care of the Rochester defense
All we have there right now is Nelson, & Austin if we re-sign him
Florentino will be a rookie
I'd probably pass on the others

Guhle & Borgen (if signed) could also start there

- jdfitz77


Austin is a very intriguing player heading into the next season or so...has great size but is incredibly mobile for a player with that frame...not saying he'll be a top-two d-man, but his development may give him a shot at cracking the lineup in a year or two
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 26 @ 11:33 AM ET
Anaheim's defense at some point next season...

Lindholm-Montour
Fowler-Vatanen
Theodore-Larsson/Despres

5 drafted 1st round
Montour in 2nd
Vatanen in 4th


That's why I've been so critical of Murray not drafting defense
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 26 @ 11:35 AM ET
Vatanen had surgery
Will miss the start of next season
Unlikely he's traded now

Bieksa will waive or be bought out

They'll protect 7-3-1 (so they don't lose Silfverberg)
Manson likely traded imo

- jdfitz77

Vatanen and Lindholm will miss the next 5-6 months and one may be out longer then the other.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 26 @ 11:35 AM ET
Austin is a very intriguing player heading into the next season or so...has great size but is incredibly mobile for a player with that frame...not saying he'll be a top-two d-man, but his development may give him a shot at cracking the lineup in a year or two
- Michael Pachla



Good AHLer,
3rd pair guy when called up imo

Definitely should be re-signed
Looked much better with Buffalo actually than he did in Rochester last year
But they were just such a mess
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 26 @ 11:36 AM ET
Vatanen and Lindholm will miss the next 5-6 months and one may be out longer then the other.
- SABRES 89



Yeah...
Lindholm should be back near the start of the season
Vatenan will miss at least the 1st month
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 26 @ 11:37 AM ET
Anaheim's defense at some point next season...

Lindholm-Montour
Fowler-Vatanen
Theodore-Larsson/Despres

5 drafted 1st round
Montour in 2nd
Vatanen in 4th


That's why I've been so critical of Murray not drafting defense

- jdfitz77

he was focused on offense...completely flipped the depth chart...remember the core days and how we didn't have any centers outside the two top-20 centers who weren't' top-20 at all?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 26 @ 11:38 AM ET
ufa

played ahl for wild team last year

- homiedclown



Ah, thx
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 26 @ 11:38 AM ET
I am planning to eat at least 50 wings this weekend, and drink less than 10 single servings of alcohol.
- Der Kaiser

You said nothing about double talls or triples....
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 26 @ 11:40 AM ET
Good AHLer,
3rd pair guy when called up imo

Definitely should be re-signed
Looked much better with Buffalo actually than he did in Rochester last year
But they were just such a mess

- jdfitz77

big body who can skate and has some offensive skills...nhl is more structured than ahl during games and some players find it easier to play in that type of situation...I think e-rod and Ullmark are those types of players
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 26 @ 11:41 AM ET
he was focused on offense...completely flipped the depth chart...remember the core days and how we didn't have any centers outside the two top-20 centers who weren't' top-20 at all?
- Michael Pachla

Yet if we trade a forward of importance we create a hole.

We still lack depth everywhere
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 11:41 AM ET
if u wanted to start guhle in roch


mccabe-risto

new guy-bogo

Antipin-Demelo



could work
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 26 @ 11:41 AM ET
Vatanen and Lindholm will miss the next 5-6 months and one may be out longer then the other.
- SABRES 89

I saw that not much is coming from your insider...any peeps?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
Yet if we trade a forward of importance we create a hole.

We still lack depth everywhere

- sbroads24

moving kane will create a hole in the roster...depth up-front has been slowly making it's way through the system
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