I find scoring chances a highly subjective stat. I think the graph you posted last blog said we said scoring chances were 19-13 last game (can't remember if that was ES or not) we didn't even have that many shots and I wouldn't call every one we did take a scoring chance. But that's just choosing which measurement.

Where we'll continue to disagree is when the play of the goalies is considered luck. The rest of the skaters can get outplayed, which of what happened particularly against Washington, but if one team's goalie is playong much better than the other, that is the ultimate equalizer. But because it doesn't fit the advanced stats narrituve it is labeled luck.

EDIT: I used shots per game instead of cf%, so ignore the first paragraph.
- Tojo.

Yeah it probably was 5v5. A scoring chance is any attempt (block, shot, miss, goal)

I find scoring chances a highly subjective stat. I think the graph you posted last blog said we said scoring chances were 19-13 last game (can't remember if that was ES or not) we didn't even have that many shots and I wouldn't call every one we did take a scoring chance. But that's just choosing which measurement.

Where we'll continue to disagree is when the play of the goalies is considered luck. The rest of the skaters can get outplayed, which of what happened particularly against Washington, but if one team's goalie is playong much better than the other, that is the ultimate equalizer. But because it doesn't fit the advanced stats narrituve it is labeled luck.

EDIT: I used shots per game instead of cf%, so ignore the first paragraph.
- Tojo.

One goalie outplaying the another isn't necessarily luck. BUT, when it's a goalie who has been pretty average for the most recent stretch of his career outplaying a goalie thats been a back-to-back Vezina candidate.. THAT is why I call it luck. One goalie playing well above what he is known for, and One goalie playing well below what he is known for.

No one, except for maybe Grinder would have called that poop at ALL. It was out of the norm.

Puck Luck has to play a part but not all. Gotta be good to be lucky and the Pens are good.

They obviously have holes in their game. Defense being the main one. The forwards are good enough to at least even the playing field most nights.

Opportunistic is the outcome of skill. You can create all the opportunities in the world, if you don't have the skill to bury it it doesn't matter.

If a team controls play and gets chances but can't finish it's not all luck.

IMO the 37 mins without a shot had more to do with the Pens unwillingness to shoot the puck from the perimeter. There were chances to toss one on net, they just didn't. You still have to give credit to Nashville for not giving them the looks they wanted.

I hope that the Pens don't covfefe tonight.
I think it means - long stretches without a shot

One goalie outplaying the another isn't necessarily luck. BUT, when it's a goalie who has been pretty average for the most recent stretch of his career outplaying a goalie thats been a back-to-back Vezina candidate.. THAT is why I call it luck. One goalie playing well above what he is known for, and One goalie playing well below what he is known for.

No one, except for maybe Grinder would have called that poop at ALL. It was out of the norm.
- j.boyd919

Fleury playing like he used to and pens making a good goalie look bad in the playoffs is not out of the norm at all. Do you not watch pens hockey?

It's been said before, with what you've described how many shots on goal did they have? Maybe that's all they can throw at us & they scored 3 goals - offside or not the count still says 3. All this talk about what 'could' have happened is pretty silly in my view. Hell, they may have counted that goal & the Preds think it's easy sailing & surrender 4? Could have? Might have?

If Gibson didn't get injured we could very well be playing the Ducks!

So my question will take some time to be answered - & the final scores will tell me what I'm looking for. Not Corsi, possession stats or shot counts.
- Aussiepenguin

Wut?



You just got held shotless for nearly two thirds of the game and you're discussing if they're any good ??

K

Predictions?

5 - 2 Pens. JMO