So did we lose Estephan?
- chilliard77

Gloria?

see the la kings

brown
gabby
wonky quick
richards


but they got their cups as well


never see the penguins with a bunch of bad contracts though

let's hope gmjb played a hand in that
- homiedclown

Nope.

And I do think GMJB is a big reason for that.

How does a team that won a cup 9 years ago, and last year have less bad contracts than our rebuilding team?

So did we lose Estephan?
- chilliard77

I believe they have until 5 pm...then again, one would think they'd have inked him by now if they wanted him

Nope.

And I do think GMJB is a big reason for that.

How does a team that won a cup 9 years ago, and last year have less bad contracts than our rebuilding team?
- sbroads24

because the have one of the greatest players ever to play the game in Crosby and they have an all-time, top-101 in Malkin as his sidekick?

in the nfl, if you don't sign with your team you must wait a year and then can be re-drafted


that would solve a lot of these issues

once your done with school, if you don't want to sign with your team then you must sit out a year
- homiedclown

I agree completely. The NHL rule is BS and creates horrible situations like the Vesey one. Agents put greedy ideas in these kids heads and the teams who drafted them are left holding the bag if the the player decides to finish college then hold out.

because the have one of the greatest players ever to play the game in Crosby and they have an all-time, top-101 in Malkin as his sidekick?
- Michael Pachla

Yes, but I guess what I am getting at is that they managed to become a contender, stay a contender, and be able to maneuver the cap in the meantime.

They might not have a cup last year if they weren't able to maneuver the Kessel deal

Yes, but I guess what I am getting at is that they managed to become a contender, stay a contender, and be able to maneuver the cap in the meantime.

They might not have a cup last year if they weren't able to maneuver the Kessel deal
- sbroads24

yeah...I get that...some very nice work in both Pittsburgh and Chicago the last 1/2 dozen years

I believe they have until 5 pm...then again, one would think they'd have inked him by now if they wanted him
- Michael Pachla

It isn't a huge loss but he was a decent prospect, I just can't think of why they wouldn't sign him

It isn't a huge loss but he was a decent prospect, I just can't think of why they wouldn't sign him
- chilliard77

Yeah, the point totals from year 2-3 argument seems like a dull one. The kid had a massive improvement from his draft year to year 2 and then still added more points to that this year. I would have offered him a contract, but I will now just hope that he doesn't pan out elsewhere.

89 pts in 68 games is solid. Wore the "A" for the last two years in Lethbridge. I'm just not sure what's not to like. I hope the excuse involves him not wanting to sign vs them not wanting to sign him.

It isn't a huge loss but he was a decent prospect, I just can't think of why they wouldn't sign him
- chilliard77

i probably came down to him not wanting to sign and not the other way around

Michael Pachla: A view from Waterloo. Seeing the situation through Cal Petersen's eyes.
- Michael Pachla

IDGAF, I see it through a sabres fan's eyes and thats it.

IDGAF, I see it through a sabres fan's eyes and thats it.
- sabresfan69

and what do you see?

and what do you see?
- Michael Pachla

I see the rules need to be changed so teams don't waste there time waiting for a player that will flee. Let NHL teams carry rights for 1 year after a player leaves NCAA and that makes the player either sit for a year or sign your contract. They sign, Problem solved.

If you don't want to go that route then give compensatory picks to teams that lose players through NCAA.

I see the rules need to be changed so teams don't waste there time waiting for a player that will flee. Let NHL teams carry rights for 1 year after a player leaves NCAA and that makes the player either sit for a year or sign your contract. They sign, Problem solved.

If you don't want to go that route then give compensatory picks to teams that lose players through NCAA.
- sabresfan69

that's fine, and I agree...but those aren't the rules right now and it wasn't a problem until now...and even so, it's only a problem in select cities like NSH, BUF, EDM pre-McSavior

that's fine, and I agree...but those aren't the rules right now and it wasn't a problem until now...and even so, it's only a problem in select cities like NSH, BUF, EDM pre-McSavior
- Michael Pachla

If we can't/don't sign Petersen, Estephan, Vesey (last year), I think it is an indication of the long road to credibility that the Sabres franchise has in front of it.

If we can't/don't sign Petersen, Estephan, Vesey (last year), I think it is an indication of the long road to credibility that the Sabres franchise has in front of it.
- SabreWest

Estephan shouldn't be in that group, but the Sabres definitely have a long road to credibility

Anyone hearing any other names besides Boughner, Housley or Tocchet ?

that's fine, and I agree...but those aren't the rules right now and it wasn't a problem until now...and even so, it's only a problem in select cities like NSH, BUF, EDM pre-McSavior
- Michael Pachla

Yes, but its time to equal the playing field and not have players run off to NYR, BOS and CHI. Without even playing an NHL game.

If we can't/don't sign Petersen, Estephan, Vesey (last year), I think it is an indication of the long road to credibility that the Sabres franchise has in front of it.
- SabreWest

Not really, guys usually go home. I don't think it has much to do with credibility when it comes to Vesey and Peterson and really who cares about Estaphan he will be tweaker if he is lucky.

Yes, but its time to equal the playing field and not have players run off to NYR, BOS and CHI. Without even playing an NHL game.
- sabresfan69

build a winner and they will come...maybe not all of them like in other markets, but some will come

Oh I thought we were just posting songs with funny lyrics
- chilliard77

It just happened to be the last song I listened to. Way better than the original, but that's probably due to the fact that the original sounds like a single track recording on the other side of a wall.

Estephan shouldn't be in that group, but the Sabres definitely have a long road to credibility
- Michael Pachla

Okposo chose to play here that has to mean something

Okposo chose to play here that has to mean something
- mattmoulson

yup...money may have something to do with it, but he's also a family guy and Moulson touted the values of that in Buffalo

yup...money may have something to do with it, but he's also a family guy and Moulson touted the values of that in Buffalo
- Michael Pachla

hopefully okposo's contract doesnt look as poopty as moulsons in a couple of years

Okposo chose to play here that has to mean something
- mattmoulson

We also have one of the highest percentages of Alumni who stay here after retirement, I read. It may not translate to College UFAs or young draftees because the "perks" are for a somewhat older crowd though. Having a good school system, a low cost of living and cheap housing aren't things that the average 18-21 year old aren't concerned with. (At least this is the only logical explanation I've come up with).