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uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 5 @ 12:43 PM ET
How about correlation does not imply causation? That's from a basic statistics class. But you can get people to do a lot of things by showing them statistical correlation and claiming you know one factor causes the other.

For instance: I always wake up with a headache when I don't take my shoes off before I go to bed. It's the shoes that cause the headache, right?

- yzermaneely


Missed my point entirely, but thanks for playing
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 5 @ 12:49 PM ET
The team wouldn't have made it this far without him was my point.
- james_tanner1


Try writing better then. You are supposed to be a professional who can make his point clearly.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 5 @ 12:51 PM ET
To be fair I think everyone can agree that they only beat one team that was "better" than them in the playoffs.
- Girouxsalem90


Not if your read any of Tanner's blogs this post season..all 3 teams they've beaten were supposedly "better" and the Pens have gotten lucky.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 12:54 PM ET
Missed my point entirely, but thanks for playing
- uf1910


I hate these discussion, but whatever, here's my 1 cent (I'm not spending 2 on this topic):

The Earth has cycles. The last ice age wasn't caused by humans burning more/less fossil fuels. Sometimes the Earth, as a whole, gets hotter, and sometimes it gets colder. There is nothing that we, as humans, can do about that (at least presently).

At the same time, anyone who thinks that burning massive amounts of fossil fuels or releasing millions of tons of CFCs into the air can be good for the environment. Massive deforestation results in much higher amounts of CO2 worldwide. The climate changes that I refer to generally take place over hundreds or thousands of years. We have seen a fairly dramatic shift in only a few decades.

Aside from that, there is a real resource issue. Oil that we can refine is not renewable resource (unless you count 10,000 years as "renewable"). Metals and plastics, that are not recycled not only necessitate more landfills, they also take away from non-renewable resources.

Basically, there is no real way to stop it unless the entire Earth decided to forego many of the comforts that it is used to, and that won't happen.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 5 @ 12:58 PM ET
I hate these discussion, but whatever, here's my 1 cent (I'm not spending 2 on this topic):

The Earth has cycles. The last ice age wasn't caused by humans burning more/less fossil fuels. Sometimes the Earth, as a whole, gets hotter, and sometimes it gets colder. There is nothing that we, as humans, can do about that (at least presently).

At the same time, anyone who thinks that burning massive amounts of fossil fuels or releasing millions of tons of CFCs into the air can be good for the environment. Massive deforestation results in much higher amounts of CO2 worldwide. The climate changes that I refer to generally take place over hundreds or thousands of years. We have seen a fairly dramatic shift in only a few decades.

Aside from that, there is a real resource issue. Oil that we can refine is not renewable resource (unless you count 10,000 years as "renewable"). Metals and plastics, that are not recycled not only necessitate more landfills, they also take away from non-renewable resources.

Basically, there is no real way to stop it unless the entire Earth decided to forego many of the comforts that it is used to, and that won't happen.

- jmatchett383



Exactly
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:01 PM ET


Exactly

- rrentz


We had this discussion in my 12th grade philosophy class. I asked the girls in the class if they'd give up their makeup, their shampoos, and their perfumes if it would make the environment cleaner. The overwhelming majority of them said yes. I called them all liars to their faces.

Oddly enough, none of them wanted to date me.
annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Jun 5 @ 1:29 PM ET
My 1st visit in a while...by the looks of it I haven't missed anything.

Go Leafs Go
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:30 PM ET
My 1st visit in a while...by the looks of it I haven't missed anything.

Go Leafs Go

- annoyed



Well, what can I tell you? Life in the Tanner blog goes on much as it has this past Age, full of its own comings and goings, scarcely aware of the existence of anything outside of raw analytical data, for which I am very thankful.
51_Killer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buttplug, NY
Joined: 08.15.2013

Jun 5 @ 1:49 PM ET
With all these music videos, I could of sworn I was on Garth's blog.
PancakesPenner
Los Angeles Kings
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 04.20.2012

Jun 5 @ 3:09 PM ET
Well, what can I tell you? Life in the Tanner blog goes on much as it has this past Age, full of its own comings and goings, scarcely aware of the existence of anything outside of raw analytical data, for which I am very thankful.
- jmatchett383

Osprey
Joined: 11.10.2015

Jun 5 @ 4:08 PM ET
I'd like to compliment the mods for taking action. The recurring politics ranting in this blog was getting out of hand and it was ruining these comments. Thanks to one or more mods for stepping in and doing something about it. Hopefully, a closer eye will be kept on the blog in the future.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 4:38 PM ET
I'd like to compliment the mods for taking action. The recurring politics ranting in this blog was getting out of hand and it was ruining these comments. Thanks to one or more mods for stepping in and doing something about it. Hopefully, a closer eye will be kept on the blog in the future.
- Osprey


It starts with the topics of the blog. If the blogger talks politics in his blog than politics talk is "on topic". I agree with you though.
quackup
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 09.29.2014

Jun 5 @ 4:40 PM ET
I'd like to compliment the mods for taking action. The recurring politics ranting in this blog was getting out of hand and it was ruining these comments. Thanks to one or more mods for stepping in and doing something about it. Hopefully, a closer eye will be kept on the blog in the future.
- Osprey


It works both ways here. Tanner can post his political opinion, but if a discussion/debate ensues the mods get to delete those responses? If anything, Tanner should be told to keep his political agenda/opinion to himself. I'm on a hockey blog site, not a political one.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 5 @ 4:49 PM ET
I screen capped every single comment don't worry guys
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Jun 5 @ 5:01 PM ET
I screen capped every single comment don't worry guys
- Mordecai

Awesome!!!
Osprey
Joined: 11.10.2015

Jun 5 @ 5:24 PM ET
It starts with the topics of the blog. If the blogger talks politics in his blog than politics talk is "on topic". I agree with you though.
- MJL


That's what I was saying.

It works both ways here. Tanner can post his political opinion, but if a discussion/debate ensues the mods get to delete those responses? If anything, Tanner should be told to keep his political agenda/opinion to himself. I'm on a hockey blog site, not a political one.
- quackup


Have you re-checked the blog? Vast sections and just about all of the political content was removed. It wasn't the mods only deleting comments. They were more cracking down on Tanner and the comments were deleted because what they were in response to had been removed.
quackup
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 09.29.2014

Jun 5 @ 5:32 PM ET
That's what I was saying.



Have you re-checked the blog? Vast sections and just about all of the political content was removed. It wasn't the mods only deleting comments. They were more cracking down on Tanner and the comments were deleted because what they were in response to had been removed.

- Osprey


I did. But of course there has to be some comment about people staying quiet/speaking up. Blah Blah Blah. I responded, and my response was deleted. That's my point. He can post the comment, but the response is erased.
Osprey
Joined: 11.10.2015

Jun 5 @ 5:50 PM ET
I did. But of course there has to be some comment about people staying quiet/speaking up. Blah Blah Blah. I responded, and my response was deleted. That's my point. He can post the comment, but the response is erased.
- quackup


He can't post such things. That's the whole point. That's why his blog was heavily edited. I'm not sure why you care that your response was erased if his original comments were erased at the same time. That's perfectly fair. There's no double standard going on. I had a comment erased, as well, but I don't mind because my standing up contributed to the wanted result: a blog that sticks to hockey. You should feel similarly pleased because you got what you wanted.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 5 @ 6:16 PM ET
I'd like to compliment the mods for taking action. The recurring politics ranting in this blog was getting out of hand and it was ruining these comments. Thanks to one or more mods for stepping in and doing something about it. Hopefully, a closer eye will be kept on the blog in the future.
- Osprey


lol good luck with that. It lasted for about an hour last night, and today it's just the same as it's ever been.
Cloud
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Stockholm
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 5 @ 6:20 PM ET
I hate these discussion, but whatever, here's my 1 cent (I'm not spending 2 on this topic):

The Earth has cycles. The last ice age wasn't caused by humans burning more/less fossil fuels. Sometimes the Earth, as a whole, gets hotter, and sometimes it gets colder. There is nothing that we, as humans, can do about that (at least presently).

At the same time, anyone who thinks that burning massive amounts of fossil fuels or releasing millions of tons of CFCs into the air can be good for the environment. Massive deforestation results in much higher amounts of CO2 worldwide. The climate changes that I refer to generally take place over hundreds or thousands of years. We have seen a fairly dramatic shift in only a few decades.

Aside from that, there is a real resource issue. Oil that we can refine is not renewable resource (unless you count 10,000 years as "renewable"). Metals and plastics, that are not recycled not only necessitate more landfills, they also take away from non-renewable resources.

Basically, there is no real way to stop it unless the entire Earth decided to forego many of the comforts that it is used to, and that won't happen.

- jmatchett383


Thats why its important to spend resources and pressure countrys to get away from fossil burning. It will take a lot of time, but isnt it better to do something to speed up the process (and slow down the global warming in the process)?

Sure, its better not to even try. Let those oil and food dollars keep ticking in...
SteveF88
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Salem, OH
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jun 5 @ 6:49 PM ET
Are you stupid or just really dumb? Horrible blogger! I guess your Leafs and Capitals are still playing in your fantasy league! Go Penguins!
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jun 5 @ 6:56 PM ET
Thats why its important to spend resources and pressure countrys to get away from fossil burning. It will take a lot of time, but isnt it better to do something to speed up the process (and slow down the global warming in the process)?

Sure, its better not to even try. Let those oil and food dollars keep ticking in...

- Cloud

And do what? Because unless my subscription to Environmental Weekly forgot the story 75% of the world can't afford to switch nd there is no technology to replace it with...not yet.

Thats the issue with your thought process, its not real. Yes we need to work towards (cleaner) solutions but until there is something real to replace fossil fuels with we need to manage how its produced and refined and clean that up NOT thinking walking away from it is the answer.

For ole Trump its about good old coal jobs. Switch to natural gas plants, poof emissions targets met. Problem is its still a fossil fuel but baby steps...
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 5 @ 7:03 PM ET
And do what? Because unless my subscription to Environmental Weekly forgot the story 75% of the world can't afford to switch nd there is no technology to replace it with...not yet.

Thats the issue with your thought process, its not real. Yes we need to work towards (cleaner) solutions but until there is something real to replace fossil fuels with we need to manage how its produced and refined and clean that up NOT thinking walking away from it is the answer.

For ole Trump its about good old coal jobs. Switch to natural gas plants, poof emissions targets met. Problem is its still a fossil fuel but baby steps...

- geta02it


Agreed. You can't force new power sources that are not as efficient, consistent, cost effective etc. etc. as what is currently in use onto people. It won’t work.

But there are interesting ideas out there. If this one works as the theory predicts in the scale needed , it could be a be game changer. Simply using the theory that hot air rises to produce your own wind.

http://www.enviromission..../IRM/content/default.aspx
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Jun 5 @ 7:29 PM ET
The nature of Vegas is that it's 100% out-of-towners going to games, and the Casinos will buy up most of the tickets anyways. Why even attempt to win a single game?

This actually couldn't be further from the truth. It's well known that Bettman wanted a real fan base for the team and not dependent on casinos buying up seats. That's why the league required the sale of 9,000 individual season tickets (17,500 seat arena) before they'd approve the new team. In reality, it only took 1 month for this city of almost 2 million people to buy 13,000 individual season tickets. By early 2017 the team reached the limit of season passes they'd even sell (16,000) so there'd still be some individual game tickets available.

Most people wrongly assume this city is full of transient, drug induced drifters, when in reality it's generally similar to any other urban setting once you get away from the Strip atmosphere....which if you live here, you do immediately.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Jun 5 @ 7:46 PM ET
"The Knights have the perfect situation in which to immediately tank. The nature of Vegas is that it's 100% out-of-towners going to games"

This is so incredibly dumb it's not even funny.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...eason-tickets/c-281931152

16,000 season tickets sold. Must be a lot of out of towners planning to travel to Vegas 41 times a year.
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