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Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 5 @ 1:30 PM ET
I'm not sure. I'd think they went ED-exempt players and picks. But Vatanen isn't what I'd got for. Too much money and too long of a term. I'd rather get guys on shorter terms or lower cap hits. I don't want to block our young guys, just make it easier to work them in. That's how I view it.
- jmatchett383


I don't see all our guys actually being good nhl players. I'm skeptical on a guy like hagg. I'd flip him for somebody already established as a quality nhl player. Dumba whomever. I know we would have to add but a price not that steep I'd take it. Makes us better today. I don't trade any our prize d prospects (sanheim Myers provy).
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 5 @ 1:33 PM ET


Mike Smith being shopped. Arizona willing to retain 50%. Would you ? He's got 1 year left.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 5 @ 1:35 PM ET
I'm not sure. I'd think they went ED-exempt players and picks. But Vatanen isn't what I'd got for. Too much money and too long of a term. I'd rather get guys on shorter terms or lower cap hits. I don't want to block our young guys, just make it easier to work them in. That's how I view it.
- jmatchett383

Yea I argued that very point last week, but I keep thinking that we have a chance to add a legit top 4 d-man thats NHL proven you have to look in to it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
I don't see all our guys actually being good nhl players. I'm skeptical on a guy like hagg. I'd flip him for somebody already established as a quality nhl player. Dumba whomever. I know we would have to add but a price not that steep I'd take it. Makes us better today. I don't trade any our prize d prospects (sanheim Myers provy).
- Tfaehner


I see Hagg as a set him and forget him type. Not a game-changer, but a guy who can play well at ES and PK within a good structure.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
Mike Smith being shopped. Arizona willing to retain 50%. Would you ? He's got 1 year left.
- Tfaehner



Would depend on the cost. But yes.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 5 @ 1:37 PM ET
I see Hagg as a set him and forget him type. Not a game-changer, but a guy who can play well at ES and PK within a good structure.
- jmatchett383


There's that word again
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:37 PM ET
Yea I argued that very point last week, but I keep thinking that we have a chance to add a legit top 4 d-man thats NHL proven you have to look in to it.
- jak521


Surely. But if you can get a bottom-3 guy on the cheap or a top-2 guy for a steep bargain (i.e. 15% off of all 10-carat diamond rings), I'd go with the former. Worth exploring, though.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
Mike Smith being shopped. Arizona willing to retain 50%. Would you ? He's got 1 year left.
- Tfaehner


I'd look at it after the expansion draft.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
There's that word again
- dragonoffrost


You've got an arrow in your butt.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 5 @ 1:39 PM ET
Mike Smith being shopped. Arizona willing to retain 50%. Would you ? He's got 1 year left.
- Tfaehner


No thanks
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 5 @ 1:49 PM ET
Mike Smith being shopped. Arizona willing to retain 50%. Would you ? He's got 1 year left.
- Tfaehner

To PHI: Mike Smith with half retained and Dylan Strome

To ARI: Amac and a 3rd
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Jun 5 @ 1:51 PM ET
David Kase....any news on him, looks like he's playing over seas another year. Anyone know if he plans on ever coming over to NA?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:52 PM ET
David Kase....any news on him, looks like he's playing over seas another year. Anyone know if he plans on ever coming over to NA?
- flyerfan28


I asked the other day. Seems like he's pretty far off the radar at the moment.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 5 @ 1:52 PM ET
To PHI: Mike Smith with half retained and Dylan Strome

To ARI: Amac and a 3rd

- Mordecai



How do you get Dylone Strome in that deal?

Maybe you could substitute Duclair in there but even then i don't think it works.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
So I killed a cave cricket the other day.

(frank) those things.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
How do you get Dylone Strome in that deal?

Maybe you could substitute Duclair in there but even then i don't think it works.

- J35Bacher

there is a trend
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
How do you get Dylone Strome in that deal?

Maybe you could substitute Duclair in there but even then i don't think it works.

- J35Bacher

I don't want Dylone Strome.

He's the worst of the Strome brothers.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 5 @ 1:56 PM ET
My son said "Dada" for the first time. It was really cool to see, and I know it made Mononoke happy.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:57 PM ET
My son said "Dada" for the first time. It was really cool to see, and I know it made Mononoke happy.
- YuenglingJagr


That's awesome. Very cool.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 5 @ 2:06 PM ET
Would anyone have interest in taking 1 year of Beiska at 4mil(you help out Anaheim for the epansion draft) if you were able to get back a prospect like Max Jones or a 2nd rounder?

I know people don't want to block prospects but I think a vet like him isn't a terrible idea next season. i still think you could see: Provorov, Gostisbehere, Gudas, Morin, Hagg and then Beiska. Then try to really move MacDonald or keep him as a 7th dman.

Is it worth it to get a higher end prospect or 1st or 2nd rounder?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 2:09 PM ET
Would anyone have interest in taking 1 year of Beiska at 4mil(you help out Anaheim for the epansion draft) if you were able to get back a prospect like Max Jones or a 2nd rounder?

I know people don't want to block prospects but I think a vet like him isn't a terrible idea next season. i still think you could see: Provorov, Gostisbehere, Gudas, Morin, Hagg and then Beiska. Then try to really move MacDonald or keep him as a 7th dman.

Is it worth it to get a higher end prospect or 1st or 2nd rounder?

- J35Bacher


Do not want Max Jones. He's the next Steve Downie.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 5 @ 2:11 PM ET
Do not want Max Jones. He's the next Steve Downie.
- jmatchett383


you mean guy who gets two horrible stints as a Flyer?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 5 @ 2:12 PM ET
Surely. But if you can get a bottom-3 guy on the cheap or a top-2 guy for a steep bargain (i.e. 15% off of all 10-carat diamond rings), I'd go with the former. Worth exploring, though.
- jmatchett383

this team need a top 2 guy more so than a bottom guy. That would help everyone around play in a more comfortable spot. besides come the summer many bottom guys lingering. Maybe you get both.

I don't buy into the blocking mantra. If your good enough I have too think they will find a spot.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 5 @ 2:13 PM ET
My son said "Dada" for the first time. It was really cool to see, and I know it made Mononoke happy.
- YuenglingJagr

Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 5 @ 2:15 PM ET
Mike Smith being shopped. Arizona willing to retain 50%. Would you ? He's got 1 year left.
- Tfaehner

For $2.8 mil I'd give him a shot
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