So you'd rather trade a highly skilled, near NHL ready dman (who slipped down to us from the top 15 of a stacked draft) just so we can hold on to a friggin 3rd rounder?

C'mon, if we're going to trade one of our best prospects we better be 100% sure we're getting a starter out of the deal. Not everyone's back-up is going to turn into a Talbot or Kipper.
- Saskabush

1.) I hate Elliott on the Flames. "Just so we can hold on to a 3rd rounder" means keeping that headcase for several seasons. (frank) that.

2.) With a core of Hamilton, Brodie, Stone (not buying all this "its too quiet" stuff on Stone; Tre has over 100 hockey ops contracts to re-new and we can't do anything about Stone until July 1), Andersson, Fox, and Gio for the next five years: I think we're healthy enough to deal from a position of strength. We might even nab Foote in this draft.

3.) I like what I've seen from Raanta. He's only a back up because King Henrik runs the show in New York. He looks pretty legit.

4.) When you trade a prospect for another young player who has a lot to prove; no one gets 100% certainty. Kylington isn't in the "can't miss" category. Even if he pans out: we might still be looking at a Luca Sbisa type player given his toolset. Not exactly untradable (unless he has Sbisa's contract too).

I'm not convinced Mason is our best option. In my eyes, if we're going to sign Mason we might as well re-sign Elliott as they had similar seasons byt Elliott is going to come much cheaper.

Our best options are still looking like MAF, Raanta, or Grubauer. MAF might be the only one of the three that would have high cost, but the other two should come cheap and definitely should not cost us anything near Kylington. It is such a huge buyer's market for goaltenders and there's no reason to pay a prospect like Kylington unless we're putting in a package to get Schneider. Tons of teams are selling but it's really only us and Winnipeg buying. Any goalie we trade for should come pretty cheap beause the team trading him doesn't want to lose him for nothing.

Paying Kylington for Raanta is insane. Prospects like Kylington don't come around everyday, ESPECIALLY not at the 60th pick overall. I'm all for getting Raanta but he's going to cost a lot less than Kylington.

So bring in Mason who had a poor year last year and almost the exact same season as the season Elliott just had that has everyone not wanting to bring him back? What did Elliott do last year? Poor start, unreal finish to the season to get his team in the playoffs, pooed on himself in the playoffs. What did Mason do two years ago? Poor start, unreal finish to the season to get his team in the playoffs, pooed on himself in the playoffs.

How does it make any sense to sign him over Elliott considering Mason is probably looking for a bigger number and longer term.
- Hunkulese

A condition to the Elliott trade was that if we re-signed him then we would have to give St Louis an additional 3rd rounder.

I wasn't against bringing Elliott back, but an extra 3rd round pick would be a bit of a kick in the nuts after the mediocre season he had for us.

BT may have got his extension, but I think he is starting to feel some pressure to start winning. I don't think he is going to risk going into another season with an inconsistent/unproven starter.

That might be easier said than done though as almost all the goalies that could be on the market have issues similar to Mason & Elliott...

What do you guys think of Varlamov? Colorado has said they plan to protect him, but I'm sure he could be had before the draft and they could just protect Pickard instead. We never really bring him up, but I think he's probably on BT's radar.

That may be one of your most retarded posts ever. Why would you give up a very highly regarded prospect for a prayer in a back up goalie? If we move Kylington it better be as a package to get someone like Cory Schneider. Given the situation (exp. draft) those teams risk losing those guys for nothing. So why offer up a top prospect who has 2 years in the AHL already as a 19 year old. You do realize we gave up 2 3rd rnd picks in a deep draft to get him, right?
- TandA4Flames

Yeah, I realize we gave up Adin Hill and Jens Looke to get him. What a sacrifice we made. Such a deep draft.

Might take your opinion more seriously if you don't insult me in the first sentence. Oh well, we've been through this and you're just being you.

Don't really want to give up our third in a good draft to re-sign a goalie that can't steal a game..

Mason will probably want 3-5 years though..

If only we could keep our picks and just do Grabauer or Raanta for Kylington.
- fry

- Clyde334

You would pile on the popular opinion. Did your McDavid jersey come in yet?

Yeah, I realize we gave up Adin Hill and Jens Looke to get him. What a sacrifice we made. Such a deep draft.

Might take your opinion more seriously if you don't insult me in the first sentence. Oh well, we've been through this and you're just being you.
- fry

1st I was insulting your line of thinking and your comment. If u take those comments as a reflection of who you are, thats your issue my friend.
2nd you're missing the point. Who is so great in the coming draft that you think would be a better 3rd round pick than Kylington or even the other 2 guys you mentioned? Not to speak of the many other guys may have picked instead of Hill and Looke?
Not that I'm advocating retaining Elliott, but seriously, your comment was a bit asinine don't you think? Rather trade a solid, progressing 19 year old skilled D with pro experience already instead of a future 3rd round pick. If your saying it's Elliott and his worth for that 3rd, then just say that.

1st I was insulting your line of thinking and your comment. If u take those comments as a reflection of who you are, thats your issue my friend.
2nd you're missing the point. Who is so great in the coming draft that you think would be a better 3rd round pick than Kylington or even the other 2 guys you mentioned? Not to speak of the many other guys may have picked instead of Hill and Looke?
Not that I'm advocating retaining Elliott, but seriously, your comment was a bit asinine don't you think? Rather trade a solid, progressing 19 year old skilled D with pro experience already instead of a future 3rd round pick. If your saying it's Elliott and his worth for that 3rd, then just say that.
- TandA4Flames

I elaborated pretty well on my thinking around the top of page 2. More or less responded to most of your points in that.

Would recommend looking at that draft again. That 3rd round looks pretty awful. Bear, Timashov, Ahl, Jones, Spacek look good, but weren't taken in that round. We can all agree that BT made a great trade there.

I am a Mason fan but I agree with others he will not be a great solution in Calgary.

He does have consistency issues and "holes" in his game per say.

Elliot is obviously the best goalie available for Calgary besides MAF IMO.

Elliot was much better for the Flames than most here realized. He took a young and often "loose" team to the playoffs. Where honestly they shouldn't have been.
- Aerchon

But if what we saw in the playoffs is any indication? It means very little if he can't win us games in the playoffs... Does Mason give this team any better (hope)?
My point is unless we can get a genuine #1 via trade (Schneider, etc) are we not better re-signing Elliott who IMO is at the same level as Mason? We know Elliot will be motivated to do better and he will likely cost much less than Mason...

I elaborated pretty well on my thinking around the top of page 2. More or less responded to most of your points in that.

Would recommend looking at that draft again. That 3rd round looks pretty awful. Bear, Timashov, Ahl, Jones, Spacek look good, but weren't taken in that round. We can all agree that BT made a great trade there.
- fry

We don't have a 2nd or 3rd in this years draft....

Or am I mistaken?

The Fan mentioned Mike Smith? Any takers there?

Mason would be an interesting option. He at bare minimum would be an upgrade to the current Flames goalie corps. With a saturated goalie market, there might be a fair and reasonable G deal to be had.

I elaborated pretty well on my thinking around the top of page 2. More or less responded to most of your points in that.

Would recommend looking at that draft again. That 3rd round looks pretty awful. Bear, Timashov, Ahl, Jones, Spacek look good, but weren't taken in that round. We can all agree that BT made a great trade there.
- fry

Ok then, to point #4. As I said, why offer such a solid prospect for a guy who the other team may lose for nothing? If u want to trade Hickey, sure. He's not as promising as Kylington and I have questions re: him signing with us at all.
But still, what is making you think a 3rd in the next draft is a better asset than Kylington?

We don't have a 2nd or 3rd in this years draft....

Or am I mistaken?

The Fan mentioned Mike Smith? Any takers there?
- geta02it

Hell no. Not unless another piece came with him.

Hell no. Not unless another piece came with him.
- TandA4Flames

OEL? Now that would round out our D nicely...

Bennett, Kylington and 16th overall for OVI. Make it happen.

Bennett, Kylington and 16th overall for OVI. Make it happen.
- shayne

I just heard this.....no way this rumour can actually be true......not sure what I think about it either!

Ok then, to point #4. As I said, why offer such a solid prospect for a guy who the other team may lose for nothing? If u want to trade Hickey, sure. He's not as promising as Kylington and I have questions re: him signing with us at all.
But still, what is making you think a 3rd in the next draft is a better asset than Kylington?
- TandA4Flames

Would say the 3rd is associated with keeping Elliott. Would rather keep the 3rd than keep an inadequate goalie to play +50 games a year.

Kylington is associated with getting a goalie we can move forward with, increase in asset value as he proves more, and eventually move for a decent return when the goalie market becomes less saturated. Provided one of Parsons/Rittich/Gillies is knocking down the door.

We're likely looking at Raanta getting auctioned off before the expansion draft rolls around. Gorton would be failing at his job if he didn't get bids rolling on Raanta soon. He's going to cost more than spare change.

We don't have a 2nd or 3rd in this years draft....

Or am I mistaken?

The Fan mentioned Mike Smith? Any takers there?
- geta02it

We were discussing the 2015 draft.

Would be ok with getting him. Not sure he's willing to waive.

I just heard this.....no way this rumour can actually be true......not sure what I think about it either!
- The-O-G

I much prefer the one where we flip Brouwer for Ovi

Bennett, Kylington and 16th overall for OVI. Make it happen.
- shayne

Jesus, you been drinking heavily already? All that future for a 31 year old in decline & a 10mill cap hit??? No thanks.

I much prefer the one where we flip Brouwer for Ovi
- Saskabush

Yup

I would love to get Schneider, but that's just me.
People forget that Kylington is 19, has 2 years already invested in him in the AHL & had 30 points. Not too freaking shabby. I'm not saying he is untouchable but that's a huge piece to give in any trade, you better be darn sure what you're getting back.

We don't have a 2nd or 3rd in this years draft....

Or am I mistaken?

The Fan mentioned Mike Smith? Any takers there?
- geta02it

He is probably my least favourite goalie in the league. I don't think my heart could take multiple seasons of him playing the puck whenever it comes within 15 feet of him.

Does anyone think there is any chance New York would look at trading Lundquist?

I've heard some Ranger fans suggesting they trade him (most were super pissed off about losing and wanted to send Lundquist somewhere he could win).

Anyone think that they'd actually trade him? Would we want to pay the price to get him?

Rask could be another option, but I'd only be interested if the Bruins retain around 2 million.

I just heard this.....no way this rumour can actually be true......not sure what I think about it either!
- The-O-G

Is this an actual proposal put forth by some actual hockey writer/blogger? Who?
Edit: oh, and no!

Is this an actual proposal put forth by some actual hockey writer/blogger? Who?
Edit: oh, and no!
- TandA4Flames

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...f-the-nhl-s-biggest-stars

Yup

I would love to get Schneider, but that's just me.
People forget that Kylington is 19, has 2 years already invested in him in the AHL & had 30 points. Not too freaking shabby. I'm not saying he is untouchable but that's a huge piece to give in any trade, you better be darn sure what you're getting back.
- Kevin R

I'm on the Schneider train as well Hell, I might even take credit for getting that train on the rails in the first place

Took quite a bit of flack from a few guys when I suggested it at first

100% agree on Kylington. I'd have nightmares of the guy turning into the next Karlsson if we traded him for (frank) all We better be getting a hell of a player if we give up Anderson or Kylington.