https://www.hockeyfeed.co...f-the-nhl-s-biggest-stars
- The-O-G

hmmm...the value does seem to be there (for the Caps to actually want to go ahead with the deal). 2 firsts , Bennett and Kylington is a steep price....but damn.

Yup

I would love to get Schneider, but that's just me.
People forget that Kylington is 19, has 2 years already invested in him in the AHL & had 30 points. Not too freaking shabby. I'm not saying he is untouchable but that's a huge piece to give in any trade, you better be darn sure what you're getting back.
- Kevin R

I'm with you on that one. If we're going to expend high future assets to better our team for the now and immediate future, go all in on a proven player showing no signs of slowing down and with some manageable term remaining. For Scneids, I would move Kylington +. I wonder if they have interest in Shinkaruk? Kylington (or maybe Kulak if they want an NHL ready D), Shinkaruk, Brouwer (they need to take some salary back- maybe Bouma and/or Stajan instead). Maybe our 1st as well if they can toss in a 2nd. Anything else? They don't need G prospects as they look decent in that area.

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...f-the-nhl-s-biggest-stars
- The-O-G

Wow. That's crazy. I wonder if there would be other pieces included from WAS?

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...f-the-nhl-s-biggest-stars
- The-O-G

Ya Russian/Latvian media as the source...

Ya Russian/Latvian media as the source...
- geta02it

Exactly what I was thinking.

Wow. That's crazy. I wonder if there would be other pieces included from WAS?
- TandA4Flames

Yup

I would love to get Schneider, but that's just me.
People forget that Kylington is 19, has 2 years already invested in him in the AHL & had 30 points. Not too freaking shabby. I'm not saying he is untouchable but that's a huge piece to give in any trade, you better be darn sure what you're getting back.
- Kevin R

Sbisa managed the same, but at the NHL level.

That is a an interesting thought though. Based on what we've seen: who do people think is a good comparable to Kylington once he's developed?

Does Sask really think he could be the next Karlsson?

I'm with you on that one. If we're going to expend high future assets to better our team for the now and immediate future, go all in on a proven player showing no signs of slowing down and with some manageable term remaining. For Scneids, I would move Kylington +. I wonder if they have interest in Shinkaruk? Kylington (or maybe Kulak if they want an NHL ready D), Shinkaruk, Brouwer (they need to take some salary back- maybe Bouma and/or Stajan instead). Maybe our 1st as well if they can toss in a 2nd. Anything else? They don't need G prospects as they look decent in that area.
- TandA4Flames

Would love that too. If we could get Popugaev or Mishmash with that 2nd we're getting a great player still.

Hello all. Bored at work and read your thread. Interesting that alot of you want Schneider, who I agree would be great on the flames. Thoughts on what you would give up that would be realistically fair? He is a great goalie and team leader/player, so I do not believe he would come cheap, especially since shero said he wouldn't be looking to move him after they talked, but basically that because we fame in last no-one is untouchable

Ya Russian/Latvian media as the source...
- geta02it

Well (frank) who do you want it from?? Darren Dreger???

Sbisa managed the same, but at the NHL level.

That is a an interesting thought though. Based on what we've seen: who do people think is a good comparable to Kylington once he's developed?

Does Sask really think he could be the next Karlsson?
- fry

He has the skating & offensive prowess of Karlsson but not the defensive game yet but there was a reason he was a top 10 early ranking

- Nucker101

Yea, I know it sounds silly but reality. If we take the full salary, we would have to move some. And although guys like Brouwer, Bouma, Stajan might not s ideal for WAS, they are NHLers and CGY would want something back. Maybe a couple 2nds or 3 rds

He has the skating & offensive prowess of Karlsson but not the defensive game yet but there was a reason he was a top 10 early ranking
- Kevin R

Karlsson didn't have much of anD game either at 1st.

Sbisa managed the same, but at the NHL level.

That is a an interesting thought though. Based on what we've seen: who do people think is a good comparable to Kylington once he's developed?

Does Sask really think he could be the next Karlsson?
- fry

Yep, Karlsson or bust

During his draft year that was who a few scouts used as a comparable (mostly his skating ability/offensive instincts). It wasn't until 2-3 years after Karlsson was drafted that he really started to take off so you never know.

Given the Flames horrid history of giving up on elite to franchise level players too soon (Hull, St Louis, Savard) I think I'd rather us not chance it with this one.
https://www.nhl.com/flame...oliver-kylington/c-772908

Hello all. Bored at work and read your thread. Interesting that alot of you want Schneider, who I agree would be great on the flames. Thoughts on what you would give up that would be realistically fair? He is a great goalie and team leader/player, so I do not believe he would come cheap, especially since shero said he wouldn't be looking to move him after they talked, but basically that because we fame in last no-one is untouchable
- TwoPumpChump91

Not sure what it would take. Obviously the #16 & I would cough up Kylington too.

Bennett, Kylington and 16th overall for OVI. Make it happen.
- shayne

I think you forgot a first.

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...-for-alex-ovechkin?ref=jo

Hello all. Bored at work and read your thread. Interesting that alot of you want Schneider, who I agree would be great on the flames. Thoughts on what you would give up that would be realistically fair? He is a great goalie and team leader/player, so I do not believe he would come cheap, especially since shero said he wouldn't be looking to move him after they talked, but basically that because we fame in last no-one is untouchable
- TwoPumpChump91

I'd do everything in my power to keep Kylington and Anderson out of the trade, but it might take one of them to get something done.

2017 1st (16th overall)
Shinkaruk
Kulak/Hickey or if we had to Kylington/Anderson

That would probably be my realistic trade offer. As mentioned we'd probably have to send someone like Bouma or Stajan over to balance out the salaries. Maybe we include Kylington or Fox if you are willing to take Brouwer?

Stajan is serviceable and could be flipped at the deadline so I probably wouldn't want to include our upper tier d-prospects if he was included in the deal.


Seem ballpark to you?

He has the skating & offensive prowess of Karlsson but not the defensive game yet but there was a reason he was a top 10 early ranking
- Kevin R

You actually think Kylington has Karlsson offence potential?

He has the skating & offensive prowess of Karlsson but not the defensive game yet but there was a reason he was a top 10 early ranking
- Kevin R

At what level has he shown that kind of offensive powress?

Well (frank) who do you want it from?? Darren Dreger???
- The-O-G

Eklund... then it might have weight! e4

You actually think Kylington has Karlsson offence potential?


- Larsson_fan

Thats the new crack vape isn't it?

You actually think Kylington has Karlsson offence potential?


- Larsson_fan

Karlsson aint even in the same league as Kylington bruh.

Kylington would eat Karlsson for breakfast bruh.

Shills has the skillzz, the 'sson ain't got none!



To be clear:
I don't think he'll be the next Karlsson, but I do think he has the skill to be a top pairing dman with excellent offensive instincts.

With our luck though, we trade him and he'd become a perennial norris candidate for the rest of his career.

Trading for Schneider would be stupid unless they were just trying to unload the salary. There's really no value in having an elite goalie in the league. Sure, it's nice but you're really not getting that much more than you'd get from a solid goalie. There are only 31 jobs available and there are probably at least 45 goalies who are good enough to win a Stanley Cup for the right team.

No matter what the Flames give up, they're organization would be losing more value as a whole than they'd be gaining in the goaltending category. What happened when Quick went down this year, all of a sudden Budaj is a great goalie? What happens every time Lundqvist goes down, all of a sudden his backup is the next best thing. What happened when Price went down, hey look, now Condon is great. Keeping the puck out of your net is far more on the entire team than it's ever been before.

The Flames shore up their defensive game and they can win with pretty much any of the goalies that are available right now. They should set the maximum they'll give up as next year's 3rd.

Karlsson aint even in the same league as Kylington bruh.

Kylington would eat Karlsson for breakfast bruh.

Shills has the skillzz, the 'sson ain't got none!



To be clear:
I don't think he'll be the next Karlsson, but I do think he has the skill to be a top pairing dman with excellent offensive instincts.

With our luck though, we trade him and he'd become a perennial norris candidate for the rest of his career.
- Saskabush

Why do you think that tho? Instincts are fine but he has NEVER produced anything more than pedestrian numbers at any level...this feels like an awful lot of hope on your part, simply because he is Flames prospect. The hype your spewing about this guy doesnt exist anywhere else.

Why do you think that tho? Instincts are fine but he has NEVER produced anything more than pedestrian numbers at any level...this feels like an awful lot of hope on your part, simply because he is Flames prospect. The hype your spewing about this guy doesnt exist anywhere else.
- Larsson_fan

Now Sbisa. Thats a comparable.