Uhh, you got the wrong guy buddy, I've defended Chara as much as anyone on these boards. Just figure if the B's acquire a top 4 LHD with term, probably means they don't see Chara staying for much longer
- Shaundre93

Sorry

Especially since Minnesota is in a total bind. Remove Zboril and I make that deal
- Shaundre93

Pretty much what I was thinking. Zboril is not as hyped or progressing as quickly as McAvoy and Carlo but I wouldn't trade a 2 1sts for Brodin. Overpayment.

The Bruins need to cosider that for a premier wing if 2sts are being thrown around. There is no one after Marchand and Pastrnak.

Pretty much what I was thinking. Zboril is not as hyped or progressing as quickly as McAvoy and Carlo but I wouldn't trade a 2 1sts for Brodin. Overpayment.

The Bruins need to cosider that for a premier wing if 2sts are being thrown around. There is no one after Marchand and Pastrnak.
- glove_was_stuck

The cap isnt helping either, we have not signed Pastrnak to a deal yet so we dont know what we will have remaining and from what I've read its either going to be a static cap or very slight increase (but who knows). I am afraid that they wont be able to get a premier wing and a top 4 D man w out a miracle happening like Belesky somehow being picked by the Knights

I disagree. Guy is a freak athlete and could be the next Chelios. I see Chara playing 3 more seasons as more of a shut down/PK specialist if we get a guy like Brodin. Limit his ice time to 15 mins per night, and treat him as bottom pairing Dman. He will still be effective in the right situations, and what he brings in leadership/mentorship is priceless.
- abolton

Pass. Let the kids play.

Pretty much what I was thinking. Zboril is not as hyped or progressing as quickly as McAvoy and Carlo but I wouldn't trade a 2 1sts for Brodin. Overpayment.

The Bruins need to cosider that for a premier wing if 2sts are being thrown around. There is no one after Marchand and Pastrnak.
- glove_was_stuck

Another Development year! Cheers!

Trade that package that Ty mentioned, maybe include another B prospect or mid round pick and make it for Brodin and Zucker.

Another Development year! Cheers!

Trade that package that Ty mentioned, maybe include another B prospect or mid round pick and make it for Brodin and Zucker.
- dothedougie

Ugh.. Zucker has gone north of 30 points once. We already have that guy in Belesky. Defenseman take a longer to develop anyway. I would either hold onto him for a better trade or try and use him when he's ready.

per a story on Stanley Cup of Chowder, if the Bruins trade for Broudin, they would not be able to protect him..... WTF that makes no sense.


And there’s one more teensy thing that would be a problem for Boston should they decide to go through with this before the roster freeze: He wouldn’t be protected from the expansion draft in either scenario.

per a story on Stanley Cup of Chowder, if the Bruins trade for Broudin, they would not be able to protect him..... WTF that makes no sense.


And there’s one more teensy thing that would be a problem for Boston should they decide to go through with this before the roster freeze: He wouldn’t be protected from the expansion draft in either scenario.
- bash023

sweeney can make a deal with McPhee to make sure he's not picked. McPhee even said that he's open to those kinds of deals.

Ugh.. Zucker has gone north of 30 points once. We already have that guy in Belesky. Defenseman take a longer to develop anyway. I would either hold onto him for a better trade or try and use him when he's ready.
- glove_was_stuck

Do we have that guy in Beleskey? He is a guy who has only reached 30 points twice, is older, and showed some pretty hard regression last year. Zucker is younger, more of the shooting type player, and flourished in the one season he saw middle 6 minutes consistently. I would give the kid a shot with Krejci, and he doesnt come at Name brand cost like Evander Kane.

Tough call, but it all depends on how you want to look at it. I want to believe Zucker will do great things in a top 6 role, but maybe last year was a fluke for both zucker (good year) and beleskey (terrible year).

Wrong Bill! Chara has several good seasons left in him and they should be played in Bruins silks.
Pull his numbers and compare them with everyone else's. He no longer super elite, but he's still among the leaders in his position. Fact.
- shoreorrpark

Not sure what numbers you're looking at, but he's pretty average or below in almost every stat category among defenseman. His most impressive stat was probably goals... which he was ranked 26th for D-men with 10, and then +/- where he ranked 22nd with +18. But he was out of the top 50 in assists and points, out of the top 50 in corsi against, 47th in corsi for (he was 2nd worst on the Bruins D in both CA and CF only to Carlo).

He's great on the penalty kill where he doesn't have to move a ton, and he can still use his massive reach... but other than that, I'd rather not see him on the ice. He's not exactly driving offense, and statistically almost every d-men on the Bruins was better possession wise. He's too slow for the hockey that is played now, and he's not physical anymore. He was great! It's just not there any more.

We go over this every time.... he had a lot of great years for the Bruins... I respect him for those great years... but those years are well behind him now. They've got plenty of options on the blue line, and I just think it would be foolish to commit more years to Chara "out of respect." Let him play out the final year of his deal, do whatever mentoring he wants to do with the blue, and let him retire a Bruin. If he wants to continue playing, he can go be Brett Favre for another team.

sweeney can make a deal with McPhee to make sure he's not picked. McPhee even said that he's open to those kinds of deals.


So that mean the Bruins would need to make 2 deals to make this happen. Give something to Minn, then give something else to Vegas?

Not sure what numbers you're looking at, but he's pretty average or below in almost every stat category among defenseman. His most impressive stat was probably goals... which he was ranked 26th for D-men with 10, and then +/- where he ranked 22nd with +18. But he was out of the top 50 in assists and points, out of the top 50 in corsi against, 47th in corsi for (he was 2nd worst on the Bruins D in both CA and CF only to Carlo).

He's great on the penalty kill where he doesn't have to move a ton, and he can still use his massive reach... but other than that, I'd rather not see him on the ice. He's not exactly driving offense, and statistically almost every d-men on the Bruins was better possession wise. He's too slow for the hockey that is played now, and he's not physical anymore. He was great! It's just not there any more.

We go over this every time.... he had a lot of great years for the Bruins... I respect him for those great years... but those years are well behind him now. They've got plenty of options on the blue line, and I just think it would be foolish to commit more years to Chara "out of respect." Let him play out the final year of his deal, do whatever mentoring he wants to do with the blue, and let him retire a Bruin. If he wants to continue playing, he can go be Brett Favre for another team.
- mixturebill

Chara was like top 20 in the league for 5v5 points by a dman. He had next to no PP time, he'd have been around 50 points if he did. I think Adam McQuaid had the 2nd best corsi on the team. Is McQuaid better than Chara and Carlo? Chara Carlo had some of the toughest assignments in the whole league. Sorry man but you're the minority. Every team in the league would take him in their top 4 and most would take him on the top pair

I disagree. Guy is a freak athlete and could be the next Chelios. I see Chara playing 3 more seasons as more of a shut down/PK specialist if we get a guy like Brodin. Limit his ice time to 15 mins per night, and treat him as bottom pairing Dman. He will still be effective in the right situations, and what he brings in leadership/mentorship is priceless.
- abolton

His play the last three years... since his knee injury especially, is not that of a shut down defensman...

Chara was like top 20 in the league for 5v5 points by a dman. He had next to no PP time, he'd have been around 50 points if he did. I think Adam McQuaid had the 2nd best corsi on the team. Is McQuaid better than Chara and Carlo? Chara Carlo had some of the toughest assignments in the whole league. Sorry man but you're the minority. Every team in the league would take him in their top 4 and most would take him on the top pair
- Shaundre93

Sure, we have him next year, I would consider (like i said) one more year after that on a 1 year deal. After that, I am good with what we have in the pipeline. Dont need him beyond that point.

Not sure what numbers you're looking at, but he's pretty average or below in almost every stat category among defenseman. His most impressive stat was probably goals... which he was ranked 26th for D-men with 10, and then +/- where he ranked 22nd with +18. But he was out of the top 50 in assists and points, out of the top 50 in corsi against, 47th in corsi for (he was 2nd worst on the Bruins D in both CA and CF only to Carlo).

He's great on the penalty kill where he doesn't have to move a ton, and he can still use his massive reach... but other than that, I'd rather not see him on the ice. He's not exactly driving offense, and statistically almost every d-men on the Bruins was better possession wise. He's too slow for the hockey that is played now, and he's not physical anymore. He was great! It's just not there any more.

We go over this every time.... he had a lot of great years for the Bruins... I respect him for those great years... but those years are well behind him now. They've got plenty of options on the blue line, and I just think it would be foolish to commit more years to Chara "out of respect." Let him play out the final year of his deal, do whatever mentoring he wants to do with the blue, and let him retire a Bruin. If he wants to continue playing, he can go be Brett Favre for another team.
- mixturebill

Bergeron's numbers last year were pretty average also.
Does that mean he's got no more to give?
Pull Charas last 5 seasons and compare them with everyone else's. You'll find that he's nothing short of a top pairing dman.
I know his age is catching up with him and he's bound to show signs of regression but the guy is still extremely valuable.
I'd let him decide his own future if I was the Don.
Side note: He'd make an incredible captain for an expansion team if that's what the Don and Mcphee are discussing.
Fla did the same thing by selecting Skrudland when they started.

Do we have that guy in Beleskey? He is a guy who has only reached 30 points twice, is older, and showed some pretty hard regression last year. Zucker is younger, more of the shooting type player, and flourished in the one season he saw middle 6 minutes consistently. I would give the kid a shot with Krejci, and he doesnt come at Name brand cost like Evander Kane.

Tough call, but it all depends on how you want to look at it. I want to believe Zucker will do great things in a top 6 role, but maybe last year was a fluke for both zucker (good year) and beleskey (terrible year).
- dothedougie

I think trading a guy drafted in the 1st round for Zucker is an overpayment. Also Wouldn't we need need to take something unwanted of theirs in return for Spooner?

His play the last three years... since his knee injury especially, is not that of a shut down defensman...
- 77emac77

I would't extend Chara at all but keeping him this last season at a 4mil cap hit is a no brainer to me. His role has to be reduced but in this current group who ca or who is ready?

We got a small sample with McAvoy. What if he not going to light the world on fire right away? What if Carlo regresses? Who do you rely on then?

I would't extend Chara at all but keeping him this last season at a 4mil cap hit is a no brainer to me. His role has to be reduced but in this current group who ca or who is ready?

We got a small sample with McAvoy. What if he not going to light the world on fire right away? What if Carlo regresses? Who do you rely on then?
- glove_was_stuck

So it sounds like the wild are desperate for a 1st round pick in anyway, not sure the package that was mentioned earlier would have to be so large, even though it could be considered spare parts to some.

I think trading a guy drafted in the 1st round for Zucker is an overpayment. Also Wouldn't we need need to take something unwanted of theirs in return for Spooner?
- glove_was_stuck

Unless they want spooner for some reason. I'm just saying that if we are going to be sending a haul over for Brodin (assuming the rumor is correct), why not add zucker in there. Helps the bruins D and wing, also helps the wild get rid of notable players before the expansion draft.

This of course also relies on Sweeney's ability to get the job done, so we will see what actually happens.

I would't extend Chara at all but keeping him this last season at a 4mil cap hit is a no brainer to me. His role has to be reduced but in this current group who ca or who is ready?

We got a small sample with McAvoy. What if he not going to light the world on fire right away? What if Carlo regresses? Who do you rely on then?
- glove_was_stuck

Agreed. I still think keeping options open for a possible one year contract after next year isnt the worst thing in the world. It would really depend on how next year goes. I am also not scared of the bruins playing against him if that were ever to happen.

I would't extend Chara at all but keeping him this last season at a 4mil cap hit is a no brainer to me. His role has to be reduced but in this current group who ca or who is ready?

We got a small sample with McAvoy. What if he not going to light the world on fire right away? What if Carlo regresses? Who do you rely on then?
- glove_was_stuck

So who's going to be captain once chara is gone?

So who's going to be captain once chara is gone?
- SRam19

This should be obvious.....

I think Ty's been playing too much be-a-gm with Videoj lately!
- mixturebill

I hate your face!

This should be obvious.....
- dothedougie

Our Captain, the Pride of Dorchester, Jimmy Hayes.