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Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 9 @ 2:11 PM ET
nashville sucks, stick to honkey tonking and let the real men play hockey
Darklight11
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Nanaimo , BC
Joined: 04.23.2016

Jun 9 @ 2:12 PM ET
I am not even going to bother reading the vomments before i post.

First. PK had crosby in a hammerlock with his arms locked around his legs. So crosby wasnt getting up to go anywhere until PK let go. Plain and simple.

Second: why did you have to go there? Cmon Paul. Thats about as baf as those idiots creating the fangerrang stupid ass video. I would like to think you are better than this.

Third: time to move on and take care of game 6. Nothing is learned from the game last night.

Lastly. I expected to go down last night and play from behind but didnt expect a 60 minute drubbing. Thats what the champs laid down on us last night and kudos to them for it. That will not happen again though so i am glad it happened last night instaed of game 7. Go Preds.

- PredChef


You are one of the few that make sense and can look at something with a logical perspective. We are all fans of a team(s) but to watch hockey and for that matter to go through life with bias opinions and only see "one" side of any situation only brings out the irrational emotional "homer" in people. I've been saying that I truly respect PK because he realizes he gives it out (and gets it back) with his antics (heck in an interview PK's father says he knows his son "walks the line"). It is all these irrational emotional fans that have to park their own motives/agendas. PK brushed it off, so should the fans.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 9 @ 2:22 PM ET
You are one of the few that make sense and can look at something with a logical perspective. We are all fans of a team(s) but to watch hockey and for that matter to go through life with bias opinions and only see "one" side of any situation only brings out the irrational emotional "homer" in people. I've been saying that I truly respect PK because he realizes he gives it out (and gets it back) with his antics (heck in an interview PK's father says he knows his son "walks the line"). It is all these irrational emotional fans that have to park their own motives/agendas. PK brushed it off, so should the fans.
- Darklight11



All Sid had to do was try to stand up, His buddy Wes would have called 2 on Suban. A hold does not require smacking someones head into the ice.
Yonk1216
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Scranton, PA
Joined: 02.24.2011

Jun 9 @ 2:36 PM ET
Only thing wrong with that article is the idea that Crosby was holding Subban.... if PK didn't have a bear hug on Sid's leg maybe he wouldn't have gotten popped.....I'm not condoning the action but it's not like breaking someone's nose with a brutal crosscheck.... the amount of damage done by Crosbys 9 shots to Subban is probably equal to the punch Crosby took from subban in game 1.

If the refs called penalties, it wouldn't get to this. ... the let them play mentality is what's hurting the game
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 9 @ 2:37 PM ET
I am not even going to bother reading the vomments before i post.

First. PK had crosby in a hammerlock with his arms locked around his legs. So crosby wasnt getting up to go anywhere until PK let go. Plain and simple.

Second: why did you have to go there? Cmon Paul. Thats about as baf as those idiots creating the fangerrang stupid ass video. I would like to think you are better than this.

Third: time to move on and take care of game 6. Nothing is learned from the game last night.

Lastly. I expected to go down last night and play from behind but didnt expect a 60 minute drubbing. Thats what the champs laid down on us last night and kudos to them for it. That will not happen again though so i am glad it happened last night instaed of game 7. Go Preds.

- PredChef

Was that a typo, or intentional?

Because if it was intentional, damn, that was funny.

99% of all posts on Hockeybuzz could be considered vomments.
PREDX1
Nashville Predators
Location: Rock City, TN
Joined: 10.05.2011

Jun 9 @ 2:45 PM ET
nashville sucks, stick to honkey tonking and let the real men play hockey
- Njuice


How is the leafs in their playoff series? Oh wait there isn't one...
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 9 @ 2:46 PM ET
Was that a typo, or intentional?

Because if it was intentional, damn, that was funny.

99% of all posts on Hockeybuzz could be considered vomments.

- Atomic Wedgie


Are the other 1% pro leafs?

Seriously if you feel that way your not reading the right sections. Some are intricate stats drive and involved.
rbaurle51
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: McKees Rocks, PA
Joined: 09.20.2014

Jun 9 @ 2:53 PM ET
https://twitter.com/NotPg...status/872996609101090816

For all of you Nashville fans that think you have the most innocent player ever. Subban had it coming and I'm slightly upset the punches to the head weren't harder. Though I still could not be happier at the outcome of the game: Sid serves justice, gets 3 points, and we blow out Nashville. Go cry about it, Paul.
thickman1178
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.21.2013

Jun 9 @ 3:00 PM ET
Your blogger is a real whiner.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jun 9 @ 3:04 PM ET
All Sid had to do was try to stand up, His buddy Wes would have called 2 on Suban. A hold does not require smacking someones head into the ice.
- riozzo


Subban had his legs wrapped around Sid. Subban was holding Sid's stick.

OTHabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 11.11.2016

Jun 9 @ 3:05 PM ET
https://twitter.com/NotPghTimothy/status/872996609101090816

For all of you Nashville fans that think you have the most innocent player ever. Subban had it coming and I'm slightly upset the punches to the head weren't harder. Though I still could not be happier at the outcome of the game: Sid serves justice, gets 3 points, and we blow out Nashville. Go cry about it, Paul.

- rbaurle51


Is this the vicious punch to the head that Pens fans have been talking about since game 2? Looks more like a one-hand push to Crosby's shoulder. Maybe a different angle would show something else, but from that angle, I can't see a vicious punch to the head.
expectations
Nashville Predators
Location: Arrington, TN
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 9 @ 3:07 PM ET
53.2 Minor Penalty - ... A minor penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct plus a game
misconduct penalty shall be imposed on a player who throws his stick or any part thereof or any other object or piece of equipment outside the playing area in protest of an official’s decision. So the LEADER AND CAPTAINof the team throws a temper tantrum and IT IS EXCUSED because it is Sid???, Mike MILBURY was already the butt of jokes because of previous SUBBAN comments so he tries to make up for a mistake in choice of words with a BIGGER crazy rant. He is the most disrespectful commentator and deserves dismissal.
jreed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.02.2009

Jun 9 @ 3:18 PM ET
People can call it anything they like, "facewash," or "trying to break free" or whatever. It was a penalty. Maybe not a game misconduct, since it was more shoving his head into the ice than full-fledged punching. But it should've been a major penalty for excessive roughing.

It would not have changed the outcome of this game. The Penguins made the Preds look awful. But it's a pretty bad look for the league on 2 fronts. First, the NHL claims they are concerned about concussions and head injuries. But they allow their premier player on national TV in the biggest game of the year to repeatedly strike an opponents head against the ice, and issue a "holding" penalty? Way to show concern for your players & potential head injuries.

Secondly, the league is regularly promoting it's diversity stance "Anyone can play this game." I got an advertisement about "pride tape" just yesterday from the NHL promoting diversity. Yeah, sure, they care about that. You have commentators on national television berating the league's top minority star because he has fun before games. And then, during game 5, you have the league's premier player (a white guy) sitting on top of the league's premier black player and pounding his head into the ice. And the white guy essentially gets away with it. Way to strike one for diversity and equal treatment NHL. And the same commentator who earlier disparaged Subban for being a clown, then doubled-down by saying he had the head-slamming coming. Nice.

Look, Subban gives as good as he gets. He clutches, grabs & slashes - but primarily during live play. Should they call some of that? Sure, but they have to call the extra slashes and spears that Crosby does as well. It's a two way street & the league failed big time last night.

- holycow_75


I was going to reply until I saw your 3rd paragraph.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 9 @ 3:21 PM ET
Paul,

How are you going to handle your PA duties when you are choking back all these tears on Sunday? Good Lord. With the drama and hyperbole that your write with, you should consider a reality TV gig.

All the other players you mentioned who take and give abuse do not have the second to second league wide microscope on him that he does. Everything he does is hyper-analyzed by guys like you. What Crosby did to Subban was illegal. It warranted a penalty. He received one. If this was any other player, both guys get matching minors and it is a non story, but because it is Crosby, it gets analyzed like the Zapruder film.

Yes, the national hockey media fawns all over him...considering how the hockey media has similarly fawned all over Nashville like you guys are the first ones to ever have a loud crowd at a hockey game, its kind of hypocritical to complain, don't you think. He is far and away the best player in the game and he is a WINNER. He is the STORY, just like SMASHVILLE is. Take the good with the bad and suck it up and DEAL WITH IT. You can't compare what the "media" did 30 or 40 years ago because the media was a couple of beat writers, the guys from the Hockey News, and a few national pundits. Guys like you weren't even on the radar, and sometimes frankly, we were all better for it.

The hockey media probably bashed him too much in his younger years and labelled him a whiner, some of that was fair, much of it wasn't, and that label stuck for far too long, when the narrative far outlived the truth. So now maybe the media feels like they need to give the man his due. I suppose everyone would love it ore if he just sat there and stoically took all the abuse that he takes from opposing players and NEVER responded in kind, but the league has clearly set the standard, that "this is the playoffs and there is a different rulebook" so the law of the jungle applies in many cases...so be it. If guys are going to dish it out on Sid, I have no issues with him giving some back. Subban didn't seem to mind because he knows that's part and parcel to the way the game is officiated, the only people that are butt hurt about it are people like you who want to whine about it instead of analyzing how the Penguins kicked the Preds asses all up and down the ice in every facet of the game last night.

Good day.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 9 @ 3:26 PM ET
PS: The irony of Nashville fans complaining about objects being thrown on the ice is thick indeed.

You folks quoting chapter and verse from the rulebook might want to consider that every time you chuck a dead catfish on the ice, the NHL looks the other way instead of assessing the Preds with a 2 minute penalty for delay of game. The refs don't assess a penalty because they are exercising discretion and good judgement to let you have your little wanna be tradition...just like they exercised with Crosby last night. Don't be hypocrites.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 9 @ 3:43 PM ET
Is this the vicious punch to the head that Pens fans have been talking about since game 2? Looks more like a one-hand push to Crosby's shoulder. Maybe a different angle would show something else, but from that angle, I can't see a vicious punch to the head.
- OTHabs


Dude... you have to be joking. Add to it Sid was already down on the ice? Come on now.
acpappas
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 08.24.2012

Jun 9 @ 3:44 PM ET
Sorry, but do you watch Crosby play on a nightly basis? If you don't please don't just watch a few games and form an opinion. Crosby get the s*** kicked out of him on a nightly basis during the year. Look at some of the cheap shots he has taken yet he is "Media protected" Sid gets fed up with the cheap shots and retaliates. So what. Your "Superstar" PK is a cheap shot artist. constantly taking cheap shot's. We don't hear anything about him now do we?
rbaurle51
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: McKees Rocks, PA
Joined: 09.20.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:46 PM ET
PS: The irony of Nashville fans complaining about objects being thrown on the ice is thick indeed.

You folks quoting chapter and verse from the rulebook might want to consider that every time you chuck a dead catfish on the ice, the NHL looks the other way instead of assessing the Preds with a 2 minute penalty for delay of game. The refs don't assess a penalty because they are exercising discretion and good judgement to let you have your little wanna be tradition...ust like they exercised with Crosby last night. Don't be hypocrites.

- Emperor Filonius


Thank Christ for this comment. How can they actually complain about the water bottle being thrown? Inn assuming they're stills just mad about sid serving justice, but regardless, they should be served a delay of game penalty every time a fish hits the ice if they wanna quote the rule book. You're completely right.
rbaurle51
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: McKees Rocks, PA
Joined: 09.20.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:48 PM ET
https://twitter.com/NotPg...status/872996609101090816

Again, for every idiotic preds fan that thinks Crosby should be in jail.
Amanion
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 9 @ 3:59 PM ET
Funny, why dont we talk about the NHL and its gutless refusal to enforce its own rules. Start with Scissions receiving a match penalty and Wimpy Commissioner Bettman refusing to enforce it.

Shall we mention Crosby getting assaulted on a nightly basis with rarely anything being called? I can tell you Ive witnessed Lemieux, Jagr, etc play and I never saw them get beat as much as Crosby does. Maybe because 87 whined so much as a young player.
Does it excuse Crosby hitting Subban in the head? No. Should have been 4:00 for 87 and 2:00 for 76. If they had called the original penalty on Subban, I bet this doesnt even happen. But thats not the way the NHL works.
Then his "slippery" water bottle. Um yeah, right. He shouldve gotten 2:00 and a game misconduct.
But you guys are all hypocrites if you complain about Crosby's actions without complaining about the lack of calls on Subban and the others in the NHL who dont get penalized when they attack star players like crosby.
If you havent noticed, the NHL is built on ratings. Canadians run the league and have the misguided idea that Viewers would rather see "clutch and grab" hockey that is close in score than an exciting, end to end rushing game that might end up with a lopsided score. Combine that with Bettman's constant flirtation with non traditional markets and his insistence that they are shown to be a success-- no matter what (And Yes, Nashville is a success, Arizona and Florida (Miami) are not) and you have a League that ignores its own rules and pushes 2 almost competing narratives at the same time. Crosby as a perfect saint, and Nashville as best hockey city/arena in the NHL. Neither are true, but both have a lot of truth in them.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 9 @ 4:03 PM ET
How is the leafs in their playoff series? Oh wait there isn't one...
- PREDX1



The Leafs is good
SpeedDemon99
Nashville Predators
Location: Portland, ME
Joined: 04.16.2017

Jun 9 @ 4:07 PM ET
Paul, shouldn't you be more focused on working on pumping more noise into Bridgestone Arena on Sunday? Reading your nonsense is time I will never be able to get back....quit your whining...if you need a box of Kleenex....send me your address. Just as an FYI for you......the Preds are NOT all angels as you seem to think they are. The Crosby/Subban situation is great theater...One is one of the best players in the league, and the other is Subban.

With all this said....the Preds will most likely win on Sunday and Pitt will win game 7 as Pekka can't stop a beach ball in PPG Paints Arena. And When Pitt does win...Paul can lead the chants that it's all Pekka's fault!

- jockitch


What game were you watching????

Not only does Crosby practically throw Subban to the ice (okay more like slewfoots but still), pins him to the ice and goes all Rocky Marciano on him. Subban was not holding Crosby, Crosby was holding Subban with one arm, and repeatedly punching him in the head with the other. Wes McCauley standing two inches away choses to ignore it until Subban puts a gloved palm into Crosby's face and calls them both.

If Sid wants try Boxing, Greco-Roman Wrestling and MMA he could do it off season. No need bring that poop to the ice. It's disgusting to see a player with a championship pedigree resort to such tactics. Completely unforgivable. No Excuse!!!

Crosby should have been given a match penalty, ejected from the game and been banned for the remainder of the playoffs.

He's nothing but a goon just like Kesler. I'm hoping there's a second Darcy Tucker pout who will one day clip Crosby at the knees and end that Prima Dona's career.

As for Bridgestone Arena, it'll be pumped up regardless because the Preds fans have a team which does not have to bribe referees, cheap shot players, and cheat in order to win, unlike the thugs from western Penn. who had to bribe the officials to beat the Senators, let alone win the Cup.

Moreso, if the Preds lose it won't be because of Rinne. It'll be because of the Penguins Brass and referee Wes McCauley, a known Preds hater. Every game the Preds have lost since the Anaheim series, McCauley was one of the refs. it's not a coincidence.

There are people who simply don't want the Preds to win a championship namely the Penguins front office and scum like Wes McCauley and Sidney Crosby. Yous can add Kesler to that list as well. This is a bigger conspiracy, AND MORE TRUTHFUL ONE, then the liberals cries of Russia hacking the Presidential election
OTHabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 11.11.2016

Jun 9 @ 4:11 PM ET
Dude... you have to be joking. Add to it Sid was already down on the ice? Come on now.
- Rinosaur


I was talking about the first "punch" that sent Sid down on the ice.

When he's on the ice, from that angle, it looks like Subban punched his shoulder once again. Does it really hit Crosby's head? That's a serious question, I really can't see it.

Crosby was holding Subban's stick under his left arm at that point, and Subban pushed him to get his stick back. We see pushing and shoving like that every game, I understand it's annoying to see when it involves your star player, but it's nothing uncommon.
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jun 9 @ 4:11 PM ET
Shhhh

I mean it does not really count as a penalty. When there is 30 seconds left in a game youre losing by 6 goals right. Just get a free pass on that one.

- Gerk


And what about the charging call against Watson? That looked brutal. Full speed body slammed guy's head into the boards. Seems like it was an old time hockey game. Both sides were trying to inflict pain on each other and some things just weren't called.
SouthNash
Nashville Predators
Joined: 03.11.2011

Jun 9 @ 4:13 PM ET
Nice one Paul!!!
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