Michael Pachla: Is defenseman Timothy Liljegren the answer at No. 8?

Sure, why not.

It's hard for me to keep up with all of the prospects in the draft, but from what I've seen from highlight film Liljegren looks pretty good!

Lordy I hope so.

The answer at #8 is Sami Vatennen

(am I doing this right?) hahaha

But seriously, I think between Makar and Liljegren I would want one of those at 8 if still available.

New Pach

Michael Pachla: Is defenseman Timothy Liljegren the answer at No. 8?
- Michael Pachla

Probably...

Building a hockey team using draft picks? Is that possible?

nein

Probably...
- jochfr

then again, could be looking at other things like trading it for a d-man, trading up or trading down...ya never know

"Building a hockey team using draft picks? Is that possible?"


If Pachla was in charge, yes. With Botterill in charge, no guarantee that it would work.

nein
- Sabresfan-365

no, you're No 8 in the comment section...and you misspelled 'nine'

then again, could be looking at other things like trading it for a d-man, trading up or trading down...ya never know
- Michael Pachla

I do this a lot

I'm done trading 1st round picks for NHL ready players. TM did it, and look where it got us! Build the team through the draft, especially when you have the luxury of having the 8th pick, and 2nds. Take 2 dmen with the first 2 picks. While experts say this draft is void of elite level talent, it surely does offer plenty of kids who can develop into fine NHL players.

Look, Murray put this organization in a complete mess. It's going to take a while no matter who we bring in as our coach, and how great we overhaul this pathetic defense. We do have a solid core we can obviously build around, so there is no starting from scratch. But the problem with TM was that he was far too impatient, and wanted to build a team that could make the playoffs way too soon, especially after being a historically bad team for 2 years.

So even though it does suck, if you want it done the right way, then most likely it will take another 3 years before we seriously start talking playoffs. And it starts with this and next years draft. I'm not saying we shouldn't make any trades, or sign any FAs, but look at the teams on the rise like Nashville, Minnesota, Florida (even tho they had an off year) and TB. All of their players were drafted and developed.

Sure, we could start trading picks and prospects again, and probably contend for a playoff spot this year. But I'm not willing to morgtage the future again for immediate gratification. I want to be good for the long term, not just be fighting for the 8 seed for 2 or 3 years. Keep the picks, continue to develop the prospects we do have, and sit back and wait. Oh and by the way, we do have Jack Eichel to ease the pain of maybe losing for another year or 2, by watching one of the best players in the league battle it out with these other great kids. I'm fine with that.

Again, Murray didn't leave us in a very good situation, so doing it right will take a while, but Jack, Sam, Guhle, Risto will all be coming into their prime when it's time to contend for the Cup. Chew on that for a minute, and maybe it won't be so bad

I'm done trading 1st round picks for NHL ready players. TM did it, and look where it got us! Build the team through the draft, especially when you have the luxury of having the 8th pick, and 2nds. Take 2 dmen with the first 2 picks. While experts say this draft is void of elite level talent, it surely does offer plenty of kids who can develop into fine NHL players.

Look, Murray put this organization in a complete mess. It's going to take a while no matter who we bring in as our coach, and how great we overhaul this pathetic defense. We do have a solid core we can obviously build around, so there is no starting from scratch. But the problem with TM was that he was far too impatient, and wanted to build a team that could make the playoffs way too soon, especially after being a historically bad team for 2 years.

So even though it does suck, if you want it done the right way, then most likely it will take another 3 years before we seriously start talking playoffs. And it starts with this and next years draft. I'm not saying we shouldn't make any trades, or sign any FAs, but look at the teams on the rise like Nashville, Minnesota, Florida (even tho they had an off year) and TB. All of their players were drafted and developed.

Sure, we could start trading picks and prospects again, and probably contend for a playoff spot this year. But I'm not willing to morgtage the future again for immediate gratification. I want to be good for the long term, not just be fighting for the 8 seed for 2 or 3 years. Keep the picks, continue to develop the prospects we do have, and sit back and wait. Oh and by the way, we do have Jack Eichel to ease the pain of maybe losing for another year or 2, by watching one of the best players in the league battle it out with these other great kids. I'm fine with that.

Again, Murray didn't leave us in a very good situation, so doing it right will take a while, but Jack, Sam, Guhle, Risto will all be coming into their prime when it's time to contend for the Cup. Chew on that for a minute, and maybe it won't be so bad
- Dukey3030

some great points here

I'm done trading 1st round picks for NHL ready players. TM did it, and look where it got us! Build the team through the draft, especially when you have the luxury of having the 8th pick, and 2nds. Take 2 dmen with the first 2 picks. While experts say this draft is void of elite level talent, it surely does offer plenty of kids who can develop into fine NHL players.

Look, Murray put this organization in a complete mess. It's going to take a while no matter who we bring in as our coach, and how great we overhaul this pathetic defense. We do have a solid core we can obviously build around, so there is no starting from scratch. But the problem with TM was that he was far too impatient, and wanted to build a team that could make the playoffs way too soon, especially after being a historically bad team for 2 years.

So even though it does suck, if you want it done the right way, then most likely it will take another 3 years before we seriously start talking playoffs. And it starts with this and next years draft. I'm not saying we shouldn't make any trades, or sign any FAs, but look at the teams on the rise like Nashville, Minnesota, Florida (even tho they had an off year) and TB. All of their players were drafted and developed.

Sure, we could start trading picks and prospects again, and probably contend for a playoff spot this year. But I'm not willing to morgtage the future again for immediate gratification. I want to be good for the long term, not just be fighting for the 8 seed for 2 or 3 years. Keep the picks, continue to develop the prospects we do have, and sit back and wait. Oh and by the way, we do have Jack Eichel to ease the pain of maybe losing for another year or 2, by watching one of the best players in the league battle it out with these other great kids. I'm fine with that.

Again, Murray didn't leave us in a very good situation, so doing it right will take a while, but Jack, Sam, Guhle, Risto will all be coming into their prime when it's time to contend for the Cup. Chew on that for a minute, and maybe it won't be so bad
- Dukey3030

I agree. I am also to the point where if you can get a top 10 pick for Kane, maybe just do that too. Not a deep draft, so not interested in second round picks.

I think there are guys hidden out there (like Justin Schultz) that can help for a year or two (only give out 1-2 year contracts).

I agree with dukey, build through the draft! but it would depend on who could be available to you? Dumba, trouba, Manson? Those guys who are in their early 20s are more in line with this core! And any pick at 8 could potentially take 2to4 years of development,who knows? But this is where your scouting department is of crucial importance

Yes - let's keep pick #8 and draft TL. Enough with the quick fix approach. Let's do it right this time.

Yes - let's keep pick #8 and draft TL. Enough with the quick fix approach. Let's do it right this time.
- SabreWest

it's probably best!

I'm done trading 1st round picks for NHL ready players. TM did it, and look where it got us! Build the team through the draft, especially when you have the luxury of having the 8th pick, and 2nds. Take 2 dmen with the first 2 picks. While experts say this draft is void of elite level talent, it surely does offer plenty of kids who can develop into fine NHL players.

Look, Murray put this organization in a complete mess. It's going to take a while no matter who we bring in as our coach, and how great we overhaul this pathetic defense. We do have a solid core we can obviously build around, so there is no starting from scratch. But the problem with TM was that he was far too impatient, and wanted to build a team that could make the playoffs way too soon, especially after being a historically bad team for 2 years.

So even though it does suck, if you want it done the right way, then most likely it will take another 3 years before we seriously start talking playoffs. And it starts with this and next years draft. I'm not saying we shouldn't make any trades, or sign any FAs, but look at the teams on the rise like Nashville, Minnesota, Florida (even tho they had an off year) and TB. All of their players were drafted and developed.

Sure, we could start trading picks and prospects again, and probably contend for a playoff spot this year. But I'm not willing to morgtage the future again for immediate gratification. I want to be good for the long term, not just be fighting for the 8 seed for 2 or 3 years. Keep the picks, continue to develop the prospects we do have, and sit back and wait. Oh and by the way, we do have Jack Eichel to ease the pain of maybe losing for another year or 2, by watching one of the best players in the league battle it out with these other great kids. I'm fine with that.

Again, Murray didn't leave us in a very good situation, so doing it right will take a while, but Jack, Sam, Guhle, Risto will all be coming into their prime when it's time to contend for the Cup. Chew on that for a minute, and maybe it won't be so bad
- Dukey3030

agreed 100%. But its playoffs or bust for so many fans, thanks to mismanaged expectations.

no, you're No 8 in the comment section...and you misspelled 'nine'




- Michael Pachla

coincidence? i think not.

I'm done trading 1st round picks for NHL ready players. TM did it, and look where it got us! Build the team through the draft, especially when you have the luxury of having the 8th pick, and 2nds. Take 2 dmen with the first 2 picks. While experts say this draft is void of elite level talent, it surely does offer plenty of kids who can develop into fine NHL players.

Look, Murray put this organization in a complete mess. It's going to take a while no matter who we bring in as our coach, and how great we overhaul this pathetic defense. We do have a solid core we can obviously build around, so there is no starting from scratch. But the problem with TM was that he was far too impatient, and wanted to build a team that could make the playoffs way too soon, especially after being a historically bad team for 2 years.

So even though it does suck, if you want it done the right way, then most likely it will take another 3 years before we seriously start talking playoffs. And it starts with this and next years draft. I'm not saying we shouldn't make any trades, or sign any FAs, but look at the teams on the rise like Nashville, Minnesota, Florida (even tho they had an off year) and TB. All of their players were drafted and developed.

Sure, we could start trading picks and prospects again, and probably contend for a playoff spot this year. But I'm not willing to morgtage the future again for immediate gratification. I want to be good for the long term, not just be fighting for the 8 seed for 2 or 3 years. Keep the picks, continue to develop the prospects we do have, and sit back and wait. Oh and by the way, we do have Jack Eichel to ease the pain of maybe losing for another year or 2, by watching one of the best players in the league battle it out with these other great kids. I'm fine with that.

Again, Murray didn't leave us in a very good situation, so doing it right will take a while, but Jack, Sam, Guhle, Risto will all be coming into their prime when it's time to contend for the Cup. Chew on that for a minute, and maybe it won't be so bad
- Dukey3030

I think we need 1 impact player on defense, one at FWD (actual impact player, like a 30-35 goal 60 point player) and we will be in decent shape.

Problem is Murray decimated the assets we could have used to get one of them.

Need to hit a home run at 8, or use it to get a core piece

i want them to draft and develop, but not liljegren.

It's hard for me to keep up with all of the prospects in the draft, but from what I've seen from highlight film Liljegren looks pretty good!
- Sabre_Tooth

For a couple of years he was projected only behind Patrick! Then an injury and or mono? Happen and he took a step back,again the scouting departments are hopefully prepared for this year's crop, cause the talent is apparently so close(especially dmen) you don't want to be the team that passed on perhaps the next,dare I say Karlsson?

I am ok with us taking the BPA with the #8 pick. It seems that will happen from all the GM speak JB has said so far, but if something comes along I would definitely entertain trading the pick if it's someone 23-26 yr old player who can make an immediate impact.