Friedman just said he believed the Hawks "will try to make a splash at home by moving up in the draft." 30 Thoughts - #7.

Also of note: Monday at 5 p.m. ET is the deadline for teams to ask players to waive no-move clauses for the purposes of the expansion draft (A response is not due until Friday).
- L_B_R

Does the Monday deadline requests have to be reported by the teams? Can't remember the ground rules for that.

Does the Monday deadline requests have to be reported by the teams? Can't remember the ground rules for that.
- blackhawk24

No, they don't, but there are sure to be a lot of leaks like usual about those types of things.

The protected lists are to be made public June 18.

Nope, total BS; the "science" and resulting money distribution scheme. Not one of you speak to solar impact.

On the topic regarding rumors, if you don't like what is reported here, don't female dog at the writer. He completely states his premise on all rumors. But since you seem to be the expert on how these orgs work Tanner, why not explain it to us. I would like to hear a counter point or two, not just read that someone else is wrong, without a defending comment.
- blackhawk24

IVe read your posts, it's clear youre deeply unclear about the science of climate change. Seriously no biggie. I read those kinds of pontifications from dudes with science degrees they got out of a Cracker Jack box or some silly alt right website all the time. Nothing new. You're under the impression that your opinion somehow equates to my knowledge. This anti intellectualism that has become so rife in your country Is kind of dangerous. But those with knowledge often play s part in the disconnect. So it's not entirely your fault.

As far as The money redistribution Scheme, just a tool to give less developed nations s chance to actually be effective at fighting it. Essentially chicken and the egg. It's a useless endeavour without it probably.
But yeah/ u don't have to agree with it as you're unable to see the benefits on a global scale. That's fine.


As far as rumours- did you bother to actually read? I've stated endlessly over multiple pages my refutations and how I view it. Counter point or two?
What are you talking about ?

IVe read your posts, it's clear youre deeply unclear about the science of climate change. Seriously no biggie. I read those kinds of pontifications from dudes with science degrees they got out of a Cracker Jack box or some silly alt right website all the time. Nothing new. You're under the impression that your opinion somehow equates to my knowledge. This anti intellectualism that has become so rife in your country Is kind of dangerous. But those with knowledge often play s part in the disconnect. So it's not entirely your fault.

As far as The money redistribution Scheme, just a tool to give less developed nations s chance to actually be effective at fighting it. Essentially chicken and the egg. It's a useless endeavour without it probably.
But yeah/ u don't have to agree with it as you're unable to see the benefits on a global scale. That's fine.


As far as rumours- did you bother to actually read? I've stated endlessly over multiple pages my refutations and how I view it. Counter point or two?
What are you talking about ?
- HB77

OK, fine. You win. The planet will flood if we don't dump trillions of dollars into this. Happy now? You won't need your safe space today.

I do appreciate that you consider Northwestern University a Cracker Jack box.

Anti-intellectualism.....oooh, big word.

And I did read your comments. You ripped on the author and one of our frequent posters. You were inclined to say how some do not know how this works, so I asked you to explain further. That's all.

You are arguing with someone who has no idea about the local reporters that cover the Hawks. Zawaski is someone the Hawks have used in the past to put stories out. Zawaski also just doesn't report every thing he hears. I would say him tweeting about it lends credence to whatever rumors are flying around.

Does it mean something will happen? You and I both know that isn't necessarily the case.
- TTtime

I consider Jay a friend, communicated with him this morning.

You get it, and how it works.

With all due respect, although Jay is on the radio, he is no closer to the team than I am, fact. He's broken stuff, I've broken stuff, glad to list it for some guy from Edmonton too.

And he is not the only source the team uses to push stories out. What guys like he and I and maybe some others have to learn to do is report what you hear as honestly as you can while separating the bs from the legit stuff. I will fully admit I got sucked in last year on a story the team was probably trying to push out. Live and learn.

IVe read your posts, it's clear youre deeply unclear about the science of climate change. Seriously no biggie. I read those kinds of pontifications from dudes with science degrees they got out of a Cracker Jack box or some silly alt right website all the time. Nothing new. You're under the impression that your opinion somehow equates to my knowledge. This anti intellectualism that has become so rife in your country Is kind of dangerous. But those with knowledge often play s part in the disconnect. So it's not entirely your fault.

As far as The money redistribution Scheme, just a tool to give less developed nations s chance to actually be effective at fighting it. Essentially chicken and the egg. It's a useless endeavour without it probably.
But yeah/ u don't have to agree with it as you're unable to see the benefits on a global scale. That's fine.


As far as rumours- did you bother to actually read? I've stated endlessly over multiple pages my refutations and how I view it. Counter point or two?
What are you talking about ?
- HB77

You've made your opinion clear. And you've been kinda of a jerk about it. Quit while you're behind.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/...-getting-loud-in-chicago/

OK, fine. You win. The planet will flood if we don't dump trillions of dollars into this. Happy now? You won't need your safe space today.

I do appreciate that you consider Northwestern University a Cracker Jack box.

Anti-intellectualism.....oooh, big word.

And I did read your comments. You ripped on the author and one of our frequent posters. You were inclined to say how some do not know how this works, so I asked you to explain further. That's all.
- blackhawk24

"I'll totally say 'safe space ' regardless that there's been no indication he shys away from discourse whatsoever. But it has negative connotations for the left. Good one me!!"

You shoulda used some buzzwords like snowflake and commie too. They're always good for a quality retort :


You were unclear on how I believe it works ? Seriously ? I don't know what to tell ya then

MDC + Dehaan for Panarin??

U get a dman back and a controlled LW prospect
- Ur Not Me

When Calvin De haan truly becoms a defenseman we will let you know...

why would two turds, a high pick #5 prospect, Michael Dal Colle, that the Isles just had to chose when they had the option of which year they could select who looks like he is on a flat line projectory...15 goals in the ahl.

Yeah, those two will get you Panarin.

Wouldn´t mind Hawks pick this Swedish dman in first round at all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGtmjlIzTi0

As far as salary dumps go, Seabrook (+) for Tanev (+) wouldn't be too bad at all. Don't get me wrong, from a normal hockey perspective I wouldn't make this trade but as far as salary dumps go it's not bad.
- DarthKane

lol

MDC + Dehaan for Panarin??

U get a dman back and a controlled LW prospect
- Ur Not Me

Del Colle is looking like a bust at this point.

Wiz, wonder what your thoughts are on whether it'd be worth it for the Hawks to move up to the spot and what they'd have to give up to get it?

"I'll totally say 'safe space ' regardless that there's been no indication he shys away from discourse whatsoever. But it has negative connotations for the left. Good one me!!"

You shoulda used some buzzwords like snowflake and commie too. They're always good for a quality retort :


You were unclear on how I believe it works ? Seriously ? I don't know what to tell ya then
- HB77

Fine, you win again. At least 2-0 vs silly little me. Done? Can we agree to disagree?

Since you're a frequent poster and had some good hockey discussions, what is your thought process on the 'Hawks players JJ mentioned?

MDC + Dehaan for Panarin??

U get a dman back and a controlled LW prospect
- Ur Not Me

From one fellow LIer to another, you know that is poop in return for Panarin.

Hamonic would have to be in the talks, and MDC is not looking to great as of right now.

Did you really just suggest a Seabrook for nylander trade

If you added everyone of your picks in this year's draft it wouldn't be enough for Toronto to give up one of the best young players in the league for that albatross of a contract.
- HealthyScratch6

No, he didn't. He suggested that Nylander MAY be the odd man out when Matthews, Marner and Nylander are due contracts.

I doubt it myself. Unless Nylander is used to make a major trade to acquire a young stud D. If not, I think the Leafs find a way to pay all 3 and jettison others. imo

I consider Jay a friend, communicated with him this morning.

You get it, and how it works.

With all due respect, although Jay is on the radio, he is no closer to the team than I am, fact. He's broken stuff, I've broken stuff, glad to list it for some guy from Edmonton too.

And he is not the only source the team uses to push stories out. What guys like he and I and maybe some others have to learn to do is report what you hear as honestly as you can while separating the bs from the legit stuff. I will fully admit I got sucked in last year on a story the team was probably trying to push out. Live and learn.
- John Jaeckel

Meh. Its all pretty much talking points until something happens anyway. Do I think something is happening? Well, yeah, of course. Its the job. Plus, the cap situation demands it.

JJ thanks for all the info that you supply.Love reading about the Hawks.

From one fellow LIer to another, you know that is poop in return for Panarin.

Hamonic would have to be in the talks, and MDC is not looking to great as of right now.
- purepone

Barzal would have to be included. MDC has bust stink all over him.

Wiz, wonder what your thoughts are on whether it'd be worth it for the Hawks to move up to the spot and what they'd have to give up to get it?
- walleyeb1

Nah. There isn't anything in this draft worth moving up to get except Nico and NOPA.
After that? They are all a crapshoot.

No, he didn't. He suggested that Nylander MAY be the odd man out when Matthews, Marner and Nylander are due contracts.

I doubt it myself. Unless Nylander is used to make a major trade to acquire a young stud D. If not, I think the Leafs find a way to pay all 3 and jettison others. imo
- TTtime

The way Nylander has been playing this last 6 months,I'd imagine he jumps well above Marner in the untouchable category.

Can't imagine any of the 3 gets traded and the Leafs will look to improve with them a part of the team. Imo

The way Nylander has been playing this last 6 months,I'd imagine he jumps well above Marner in the untouchable category.

Can't imagine any of the 3 gets traded and the Leafs will look to improve with them a part of the team. Imo
- walshyleafsfan

I think all 3 are in that category. Those are players you build around. Guys like Brown, Hyman, Leivo and the others, while good players, are the type you move for needed pieces or to make room for younger less expensive players.

With Crawford's name popping up from time to time in trade rumors (and then being shot down because the Hawks already traded away Darling), I just want to remind everyone that Darling still hasn't signed with the Canes and will be an unrestricted free agent if he's not signed by the deadline.

Also, the trade with Carolina was non-conditional, meaning the Hawks get the Senators 3rd round pick whether or not Carolina keeps Darling.

I understand this is somewhat of a longshot, but the scenario remains the Hawks could have traded Darling's rights to Carolina with the spoken understanding that they would resign him if they traded Crawford.

Plus, trading Crawford without Darling already signed as the Hawks' back up increases their leverage in a trade as other GMs won't think that Crow is the obvious "odd man out".

Like I said, any of this being true is a bit of a longshot, but if there ever was an off-season for Machiavellian moves and creative "outside the box" thinking, it's this one.

Fine, you win again. At least 2-0 vs silly little me. Done? Can we agree to disagree?

Since you're a frequent poster and had some good hockey discussions, what is your thought process on the 'Hawks players JJ mentioned?
- blackhawk24

Is it possible the hawks jettison salary? Of course. They have to. That's where the plausible logic comes in to float these mostly made up rumours generally speaking

Is it possible that the nucks Are considering taking on seabrooks contract in exchange for Tanev? And hawk management alerted jj these discussions were taking place ?
Of course not

seabrook might be moved, but despite his talent, it'd be a for a big loss as that contract is brutal to anyone not desperate to get to the cap floor.
And since the hawks are still somewhat of a cup contending team, they Probably wouldn't/couldn't swallow that loss at this point. (Maybe a year or two down the line)
It'll most likely be some smaller pieces (Kruger etc) moved out for the cap savings

With Crawford's name popping up from time to time in trade rumors (and then being shot down because the Hawks already traded away Darling), I just want to remind everyone that Darling still hasn't signed with the Canes and will be an unrestricted free agent if he's not signed by the deadline.

Also, the trade with Carolina was non-conditional, meaning the Hawks get the Senators 3rd round pick whether or not Carolina keeps Darling.

I understand this is somewhat of a longshot, but the scenario remains the Hawks could have traded Darling's rights to Carolina with the spoken understanding that they would resign him if they traded Crawford.

Plus, trading Crawford without Darling already signed as the Hawks' back up increases their leverage in a trade as other GMs won't think that Crow is the obvious "odd man out".

Like I said, any of this being true is a bit of a longshot, but if there ever was an off-season for Machiavellian moves and creative "outside the box" thinking, it's this one.
- 4_in_7

Darling signed with Carolina

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/scott-darling