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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:38 AM ET
Those you draft at this point. No one is dumping those players in trades for what the Canucks have to offer. Plus Stars need D so they don't have any stud D prospects with speed either. So who do you grab there in 3OA plus prospect?
- Nuck4U



Mittelstadt unless NJD takes Heiskanen then its maybe Patrick.
Then with 5OA its either Glass or Makar maybe.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:40 AM ET
bo will be as good as he wants to be ...whether that is a top line scorer/shutdown center with offence/2nd line complimentary center ...he is a good young player who will be a Canuck for a long time
- Redmile247


Bo's character & offseason work ethic will bode him well.
He will be an underrated superstar one day IMO.

...BO knows hockey...
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:40 AM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie
Bob McKenzie
BTW, at conclusion of the coming season and this one year deal, Gudbranson is UFA

- Nucker101

Like I said, Donkey contract. hee haw!
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 16 @ 12:41 AM ET
Dont get greedy, Tanev for 3OA + Niemi(apparently they want Lehtonen to be back up) and if we need to add SJS 4th so be it.
- Retinalz


People are not realizing how big the pressure is on the Stars to win now in their market. They are the desperate buyers here and need Tanev. They don't have any other real options out there to get that kind of D for their pick. It would be nice to add another asset to the rebuild for JB. But that's not the pressure on JB to give up a valuable player. The pressure is on the Stars so they should give up assets that they can't use to win now. Nichushkin falls there as an asset that can't be used to win now. So he's good compensation to JB for taking a salary dump goalie.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:42 AM ET
It was stupid to give up that much for a player of his caliber in the first place, you can't fix that.
- LeftCoaster


I like him and think his caliber is high, so agree to disagree again. Here I thought I was th pessimist on this board
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:43 AM ET
He's a UFA after this year and could just leave.
- neem55



Wrongo he is an RFA
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:45 AM ET
Wrongo he is an RFA
- Nighthawk


No dude, look it up. You and Nuck4u just make comments that have no basis in reality, somebody already put the link up
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 16 @ 12:45 AM ET
Wrongo he is an RFA
- Nighthawk



Ufa after next year... 2018
This year is 2017.....
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 16 @ 12:46 AM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie
Bob McKenzie
BTW, at conclusion of the coming season and this one year deal, Gudbranson is UFA

- Nucker101



Like I said cap friendly has him as RFA for 2018

https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft

They tend to be accurate as a source on contracts.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:46 AM ET
so how about tanev for 3oa + rights to nichuskin + lehtonen

Might have to throw in the 55oa

- SMBDragon


JB would ponder on that one real hard
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 16 @ 12:48 AM ET
No dude, look it up. You and Nuck4u just make comments that have no basis in reality, somebody already put the link up
- neem55


As usual you talk with slurs to portray them as facts. I posted the source and pasted their finding. But hey my post above gave the link & their info.

So here's one for you for talking out of your bottom brain.

https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:48 AM ET
Like I said cap friendly has him as RFA for 2018

https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft

They tend to be accurate as a source on contracts.

- Nuck4U

actually they have him as a UFA
https://capfriendly.com/teams/canucks
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 16 @ 12:48 AM ET
No dude, look it up. You and Nuck4u just make comments that have no basis in reality, somebody already put the link up
- neem55



BFF's
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:50 AM ET
Like I said cap friendly has him as RFA for 2018

https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft

They tend to be accurate as a source on contracts.

- Nuck4U

Cap Friendly has him as a UFA after this season

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 16 @ 12:54 AM ET
As usual you talk with slurs to portray them as facts. I posted the source and pasted their finding. But hey my post above gave the link.m

So here's one for you for talking out of your bottom brain.

https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft

- Nuck4U


Like I said, this is 2017, the link you posted shows him as a UFA in 2018... next year
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 16 @ 12:54 AM ET
actually they have him as a UFA
https://capfriendly.com/teams/canucks

- neem55



They need to clear that up. The link I posted says this below. That's the link sourcing I used from Carol's previous posting. That was the sourcing I was going off of that I presented.


DEFENSE AGE POS CAP HIT EXPIRY 40/70
Edler, Alexander 31 D $5,000,000 UFA (2019) ✔
Tanev, Christopher 27 D $4,450,000 UFA (2020) ✔
Sbisa, Luca 27 D $3,600,000 UFA (2018) ✔
Gudbranson, Erik 25 D $3,500,000 RFA (2018) ✔
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 16 @ 12:56 AM ET
I like him and think his caliber is high, so agree to disagree again. Here I thought I was th pessimist on this board
- neem55

Well....the eyeball test and the fancy stats say he's crap, but if you say so

https://canucksarmy.com/2...ik-gudbranson-s-contract/
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 16 @ 12:56 AM ET
Wrongo he is an RFA
- Nighthawk

you and nuck4u doubting the Bob Father
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 16 @ 12:57 AM ET
Like I said, this is 2017, the link you posted shows him as a UFA in 2018... next year
- Pres.cup


No. That's not what the link I posted says. I posted it again above it clearly gives the salary and RFA 2018. They need to clear that up if it's inaccurate.

Edit. Cause can only copy one at a time. Here is what they have:

DEFENSE AGE POS CAP HIT EXPIRY 40/70
Edler, Alexander 31 D $5,000,000 UFA (2019) ✔
Tanev, Christopher 27 D $4,450,000 UFA (2020) ✔
Sbisa, Luca 27 D $3,600,000 UFA (2018) ✔
Gudbranson, Erik 25 D $3,500,000 RFA (2018) ✔

The link is: https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:59 AM ET
Well....the eyeball test and the fancy stats say he's crap, but if you say so

https://canucksarmy.com/2...ik-gudbranson-s-contract/

- LeftCoaster

First year as a Canuck was undeniably a disaster. I'm holding out hope. Also Hutt as a pair was huge mistake, he need someone more reliable.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 16 @ 1:03 AM ET
Cap Friendly has him as a UFA after this season

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks

- Retinalz



Two different links to two different cap friendly data pools. One has it different then the other. They should clear that up.

https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 16 @ 1:05 AM ET
First year as a Canuck was undeniably a disaster. I'm holding out hope. Also Hutt as a pair was huge mistake, he need someone more reliable.
- neem55

He shouldn't need anyone if he was good. He is what he is.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 16 @ 1:06 AM ET
They need to clear that up. The link I posted says this below. That's the link sourcing I used from Carol's previous posting. That was the sourcing I was going off of that I presented.


DEFENSE AGE POS CAP HIT EXPIRY 40/70
Edler, Alexander 31 D $5,000,000 UFA (2019) ✔
Tanev, Christopher 27 D $4,450,000 UFA (2020) ✔
Sbisa, Luca 27 D $3,600,000 UFA (2018) ✔
Gudbranson, Erik 25 D $3,500,000 RFA (2018) ✔

- Nuck4U


Here's a link from 2016 showing his last deal.
https://twitter.com/Georg...status/729740795805372417
He's rfa until the end of the 2018 season, then he turns ufa, 7 years in the nhl.
They do need to clear it up but the source you're citing is wrong.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 16 @ 1:07 AM ET
Gudbranson will have played in his 7th season coming up. He will have completed 7 seasons in the league which makes any and all players on expiring contracts a UFA, as per CBA. Who gives a poop what an Internet website says, the CBA supercedes that information.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 16 @ 1:13 AM ET
Gudbranson will have played in his 7th season coming up. He will have completed 7 seasons in the league which makes any and all players on expiring contracts a UFA, as per CBA. Who gives a poop what an Internet website says, the CBA supercedes that information.
- Reubenkincade

Yup...completion of his seventh year in the league and an expiring contract makes him a UFA I do believe.

"An unrestricted free agent is defined in the Collective Bargaining Agreement as a player that has seven accrued seasons or is 27 years or older by June 30th of the end of an NHL season. These players are UNRESTRICTED free agents and have absolutely 0 restrictions on their negotiating ability."
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