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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 18 @ 11:56 AM ET
Just wait unti JT Compher starts playing full time
- sbroads24

He will be this season Mini Drury is the best
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:56 AM ET
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- jochfr

The question is does Vegas go with the obvious choice, like Neal, or take a chance on Colton Sissons who just had a great post season?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 18 @ 11:56 AM ET
I did a mock team, I actually took some older players than expected. However, it may sound crazy, I think they have a shot at the playoffs with my roster I selected.

They could use a player or 2 to package with their first and try and land pick 2.

- Mentalorgasm5



This is one I did last night...
https://www.capfriendly.c...m/armchair-gm/team/360690

I'm gonna do another one now

I think I was pretty close,
But there's a few changes I've gotta make
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 18 @ 11:57 AM ET
Grigio exposed.

Lemieux ignored.

- Der Kaiser

I know but we think we know the rationale around this. They want to save Picks and Barberio, don't have the side assets to do it so toss Grigs out there as a sacrificial lamb
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
Theory-

Vegas knows that in order to eventually compete for something meaningful, it will need to land a "franchise player" or two

Selecting guys like Manson, Dumba, Neal etc, might prevent them from being able to land a #1 overall.

They might be open to a lot of draft and trades if it involves lottery picks for them

- sbroads24



If I'm Vegas,
I'm taking Aberg over Neal & keeping him
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:00 PM ET
I know but we think we know the rationale around this. They want to save Picks and Barberio, don't have the side assets to do it so toss Grigs out there as a sacrificial lamb
- DDM-Coga



What's up with Siemens?
Bust? Or just developing slowly?

He's someone I think they'd consider bc he's still such a young defenseman
23, right?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 12:03 PM ET
I think a reason more deals weren't made before expansion,

Teams didn't want to lose two players for a small return.

Take the Ducks for example. They are losing a good player regardless.

So instead of trading Manson for a decent return, and then losing Vatanen on top of that, they are just gonna suck it up and lose 1 guy to Vegas
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:05 PM ET
I think a reason more deals weren't made before expansion,

Teams didn't want to lose two players for a small return.

Take the Ducks for example. They are losing a good player regardless.

So instead of trading Manson for a decent return, and then losing Vatanen on top of that, they are just gonna suck it up and lose 1 guy to Vegas

- sbroads24

They apparently made a deal with them
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 18 @ 12:05 PM ET
Ulmark gets picked by Vegas. Lehner signs 2 year bridge deal early next week. Botterill calls Cal Petersen and says Rochester #1 is yours for the taking. In two years, Buffalo is yours for the taking.

The source of the above is my dog Jake.

- SabreWest


I think Jake may be more accurate than some sources here. Jake's logic makes perfect sense. Would have to resign Nilsson then which I'd be fine with
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 18 @ 12:07 PM ET
What's up with Siemens?
Bust? Or just developing slowly?

He's someone I think they'd consider bc he's still such a young defenseman
23, right?

- jdfitz77


Bit of both, developed slowly bc of strings of injuries over the years, and has regressed bc of it. However he was a stud in the AHL this year, but he is in this weird AHL Dman, fringe NHLer territory. He would be a nice pick up for their Depth. I hope he is a 7th/8th for the avs next year.

Rocco was a happy surprise protection, they better be putting that guy up on the bottom 6 this year. That little bugger works his balls off.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 12:09 PM ET
They apparently made a deal with them
- chilliard77

But it was supposed to be Bieksa, and he never waived his NMC. He's protected

Same with Minny.

Instead of trading D men and then also losing a guy in expansion, suck it up and lose a guy at a position of strength
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 18 @ 12:10 PM ET
Why the hell did we protect Ennis ?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:12 PM ET
I think a reason more deals weren't made before expansion,

Teams didn't want to lose two players for a small return.

Take the Ducks for example. They are losing a good player regardless.

So instead of trading Manson for a decent return, and then losing Vatanen on top of that, they are just gonna suck it up and lose 1 guy to Vegas

- sbroads24



They had to have worked out a deal
Otherwise,
I think they'd have just traded Vatanen & bought out Bieksa if he wouldn't waive his NMC so they could protect Manson

But with teams like Minny & Nyi that had 3 or 4 guys they'd have to trade,
your thinking definitely makes sense
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:13 PM ET
Bit of both, developed slowly bc of strings of injuries over the years, and has regressed bc of it. However he was a stud in the AHL this year, but he is in this weird AHL Dman, fringe NHLer territory. He would be a nice pick up for their Depth. I hope he is a 7th/8th for the avs next year.

Rocco was a happy surprise protection, they better be putting that guy up on the bottom 6 this year. That little bugger works his balls off.

- DDM-Coga




Based on what you're saying...
I think they take Siemens over Grigorenko
Thoughts?
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jun 18 @ 12:13 PM ET
I would love to see an argument between MrHunter and 39.

It would be a killer buzz

- Der Kaiser

Hi 🙋
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 12:14 PM ET
They had to have worked out a deal
Otherwise,
I think they'd have just traded Vatanen & bought out Bieksa if he wouldn't waive his NMC so they could protect Manson

But with teams like Minny & Nyi that had 3 or 4 guys they'd have to trade,
your thinking definitely makes sense

- jdfitz77

That's true, I could have sworn there was a deal with Bieksa though
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:14 PM ET
But it was supposed to be Bieksa, and he never waived his NMC. He's protected

Same with Minny.

Instead of trading D men and then also losing a guy in expansion, suck it up and lose a guy at a position of strength

- sbroads24



No, it couldn't have been Bieksa
Idk why ppl assumed that

How could the deal be Bieksa when he didn't waive his NMC?
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:16 PM ET
GMGM has stated he will give every team the opportunity to keep their team together if they want to. It sounds like both Columbus and the Isles are giving up first rounders to dictate who the Knights won't take. No one on the Sabres list is worth burning and draft capital over protecting. I would flip them a 3rd though to take Moulson.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 18 @ 12:16 PM ET
Based on what you're saying...
I think they take Siemens over Grigorenko
Thoughts?

- jdfitz77


that wouldnt shock me if they did and I wouldnt happy if that was the case, but I really think they pick Barberio though, he was such a nice pick up.

I hope they are dumb and take Soderberg....god that contract is going to stink if he doest turn back into a somewhat respectable player
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:16 PM ET
Why the hell did we protect Ennis ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS



I'm assuming you'd prefer Carrier

Here's why I think they protected Ennis

Ennis, has scored 20g in the NHL 3 times
Carrier does not have that potential

Can Ennis get back to that?
Maybe not

But I guess they figure Ennis bouncing back has better odds than Carrier developing into a scorer at this level
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 12:18 PM ET
No, it couldn't have been Bieksa
Idk why ppl assumed that

How could the deal be Bieksa when he didn't waive his NMC?

- jdfitz77

It was reported a few days ago that Anaheim had a deal with Vegas and it was assumed it was Bieksa. Must not have happened
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:18 PM ET
that wouldnt shock me if they did and I wouldnt happy if that was the case, but I really think they pick Barberio though, he was such a nice pick up.

I hope they are dumb and take Soderberg....god that contract is going to stink if he doest turn back into a somewhat respectable player

- DDM-Coga



Soderberg seems doubtful bc of the supposed deal for them to take Kruger from Chicago

How many "3rd line" type centers do they need?
And like u said, that contract
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jun 18 @ 12:18 PM ET
No, it couldn't have been Bieksa
Idk why ppl assumed that

How could the deal be Bieksa when he didn't waive his NMC?

- jdfitz77


Maybe he will take a trade there, but they wanted to claim a young forward?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:19 PM ET
It was reported a few days ago that Anaheim had a deal with Vegas and it was assumed it was Bieksa. Must not have happened
- sbroads24



Ppl made an assumption that made no sense though
Bieksa would've had to been asked to waive his NMC to go to Vegas
And it was reported he was NOT asked

Idk why ppl made that assumption
Made no sense to me
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:20 PM ET
Maybe he will take a trade there, but they wanted to claim a young forward?
- thatsapickle



Maybe
But it was reported that Anaheim had a deal in place & Bieksa hadn't been asked to waive

Therefor, he could t have been part of the deal
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