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chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 19 @ 6:21 PM ET
4th overall for the 8th overall and the Skunk
- DDM-Coga



Add Barrie and we're talking
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:22 PM ET
4th overall for the 8th overall and the Skunk
- DDM-Coga



Absolutely not
Wouldn't do it for 3rd overall either
MAYBE, for 1st

I don't see much difference between the top 5-6 defensemen in the draft
I'd rather trade back
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 19 @ 6:23 PM ET
Matt Moulson + 2018 1st for Matt Dumba selected by Vegas.

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:24 PM ET
ranked 183

http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=272232


those are some impressive numbers though. could be a late round steal

- Sabresfan-365




Meh
He's 5'9 and can't even score goals in the USHL
Unlikely he ever makes the NHL
Rather take a shot at a Euro or a goalie in the late rounds
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 19 @ 6:24 PM ET
I'm ok with "reaching" for a defenseman

Talent between 12-24 is roughly the same from what I'm reading
Optimally we'd trade down & grab another pick,
but whatever
As long as we get a good player

Or if we can trade the pick for Trouba, Dumba, etc...
that would even be better

- jdfitz77


Make the pick and take the best player available. Teams get in trouble when they reach for needs. Then trade for some mid career Dman or younger but don't give up the eighth for it and don't reach. Darcy Regier's draft years has plenty of reaches in them that we never saw in the NHL.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 19 @ 6:25 PM ET


Add Barrie and we're talking

- chilliard77


I didnt say which He stinks guy...thats the fun game
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 19 @ 6:26 PM ET
Absolutely not
Wouldn't do it for 3rd overall either
MAYBE, for 1st

I don't see much difference between the top 5-6 defensemen in the draft
I'd rather trade back

- jdfitz77


oh i know just messing with you guys.
But Avs did mention they have no issues drafting at 4 or moving back (every GM says that)

But Yotes at 7 could be a team they trade down with, they have the 23rd overall as well.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:26 PM ET
Matt Moulson + 2018 1st for Matt Dumba selected by Vegas.
- sbroads24



In a heartbeat

But they have Cap issues,
so there's no way they can take Moulson

I'm not even sure of 2018 1st without Moulson included would be enough
Might have to be #8 overall
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 19 @ 6:26 PM ET
I didnt say which He stinks guy...thats the fun game
- DDM-Coga

There's only one
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:27 PM ET
oh i know just messing with you guys.
But Avs did mention they have no issues drafting at 4 or moving back (every GM says that)

But Yotes at 7 could be a team they trade down with, they have the 23rd overall as well.

- DDM-Coga



I think 3-9 could go in just about any order
Talent level is all extremely close Imo
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 19 @ 6:27 PM ET
4th overall for the 8th overall and the Skunk
- DDM-Coga


I'd do it for third overall but I've never been a fan of Reinhart
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:27 PM ET
ranked 183

http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=272232


those are some impressive numbers though. could be a late round steal

- Sabresfan-365


183??!

start working the nurses.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 19 @ 6:28 PM ET
In a heartbeat

But they have Cap issues,
so there's no way they can take Moulson

I'm not even sure of 2018 1st without Moulson included would be enough
Might have to be #8 overall

- jdfitz77

Vegas would be taking Moulson, and our '18 first
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:29 PM ET
Vegas would be taking Moulson, and our '18 first
- sbroads24

We will have to add for any team to take Moulson.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 19 @ 6:30 PM ET
I think 3-9 could go in just about any order
Talent level is all extremely close Imo

- jdfitz77


it really is, I like the top 2D but not in love with them. Still be in the top 10 and gain another Top pick in the 40 out of it. Im all for it
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:30 PM ET
Make the pick and take the best player available. Teams get in trouble when they reach for needs. Then trade for some mid career Dman or younger but don't give up the eighth for it and don't reach. Darcy Regier's draft years has plenty of reaches in them that we never saw in the NHL.
- GilPerreault11



U missed how I explained it's not really a "reach" though

The guy who's ranked 18th could easily be switched with the guy ranked 10th
They're all very close

The numbers they're ranked don't matter so much bc there's a large group with roughly the same grade
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 19 @ 6:31 PM ET
4th overall for the 8th overall and the Skunk
- DDM-Coga



Fire your dealer
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:32 PM ET
Vegas would be taking Moulson, and our '18 first
- sbroads24



My bad...
Vegas could obviously take Moulson

I don't see it happening though
We probably have to give up more for Dumba

I'd be ecstatic if your trade happened though


And while we're at it...
trade Girgensons or Larsson for Eberle
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:33 PM ET
it really is, I like the top 2D but not in love with them. Still be in the top 10 and gain another Top pick in the 40 out of it. Im all for it
- DDM-Coga



Would be a very smart way to go for the AVs
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 19 @ 6:35 PM ET
U missed how I explained it's not really a "reach" though

The guy who's ranked 18th could easily be switched with the guy ranked 10th
They're all very close

The numbers they're ranked don't matter so much bc there's a large group with roughly the same grade

- jdfitz77


They, we, everyone who is in the teens rationalizes that every year and it's not really true. They are all robots and they are the same player, there is no difference in any of them. That is what people who haven't scouted them intensely say.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 19 @ 6:36 PM ET
Would be a very smart way to go for the AVs
- jdfitz77


Im sure if Sabres packaged one of their 2nd rounders and their 1st, they could jump up to 4th.

I dont think it would take too much to jump up a few spots
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Jun 19 @ 6:37 PM ET
Im saying we prob wont even get a 3rd
- MCGUIZZY



I'm with you, that wasn't a joke at you, just about the situation.

I'm hurt man, just trying to cope.

Even though it's all foreordained.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 19 @ 6:41 PM ET
Im sure if Sabres packaged one of their 2nd rounders and their 1st, they could jump up to 4th.

I dont think it would take too much to jump up a few spots

- DDM-Coga


It will take more than a 2nd round pick. This isn't the NFL draft where 2nd round picks are a very valuable currency because the percentage of 2nd round NHL players actually playing in the league is pretty low compared to the NFL. A prospect too probably.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 19 @ 6:52 PM ET
It will take more than a 2nd round pick. This isn't the NFL draft where 2nd round picks are a very valuable currency because the percentage of 2nd round NHL players actually playing in the league is pretty low compared to the NFL. A prospect too probably.
- GilPerreault11


I dunno, its hard to judge since there hasnt been a lot of trading down in the 1st round lately. It both cases its been moving back a few spots in the mid to late round and just picking up 3rd roudners.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:54 PM ET
Matt Moulson + 2018 1st for Matt Dumba selected by Vegas.
- sbroads24



Is it me, or does giving up a first for someone who his own team didn't feel like they should protect seem like not a good idea?
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