So, you would have rather had him protect carrier, expose Ennis and thus lose Ullmark??
- turbo044

No, my deal idea is:

Moulson
Carrier
Peterson's rights
2017 WSH 3rd
2018 Sabres 3d

For

Lee Stempniak or equal

True on Beaulieu. Starting the year with Moulson, Bogo and Gorges on opening night means no playoffs imo. It's the same way I felt about Ellis. If Ellis is on your opening night roster, you're not a playoff team. If 2 out of the 3 I mentioned start the year, we're not a playoff team
- jcragcrumple

This fan base needs to temper expectations. There's a lot of work to be done.

No, my deal idea is:

Moulson
Carrier
Peterson's rights
2017 WSH 3rd
2018 Sabres 3d

For

Lee Stempniak or equal
- jcragcrumple

sabres already traded their 3rd

As would most on here, I'd love us to make a splash...but I'm not expecting anything.

Most teams seem to have better/more assets to move to attain the players we would be after. (i.e. MIN able to move Tuch vs BUF moving Ennis).

Friedman mentioned Kane trade talks cooling...which indicated 89 is right, he wants to stay. I happen to think that's a good thing. I think next year is when we start to really compete. We need to fix the left side of the D and secure another top 6 wing (Kane, Sam, Okposo).

my .02
- SyrSabreFan

I'm in the sit back and wait approach to see what happens after the dust settles as far as making deals, now if the deal is there that's great. One thing about the Pens when Botterill was there, they don't panic.

sabres already traded their 3rd
- homiedclown

2018 3rd

This fan base needs to temper expectations. There's a lot of work to be done.
- Sabresfan-365

it's ok

when Kane gets extended this summer, there will be people jumping off the bridge

5 years 30 mil

2018 3rd
- Sabresfan-365

I am still trying to grasp the english language

No, my deal idea is:

Moulson
Carrier
Peterson's rights
2017 WSH 3rd
2018 Sabres 3d

For

Lee Stempniak or equal
- jcragcrumple

This is straight awful fo Buffalo, no offense, way too much for Stempniak. Just to get rid of Moulson?

it's ok

when Kane gets extended this summer, there will be people jumping off the bridge

5 years 30 mil
- homiedclown

id be surprised if JB gave him that

No, my deal idea is:

Moulson
Carrier
Peterson's rights
2017 WSH 3rd
2018 Sabres 3d

For

Lee Stempniak or equal
- jcragcrumple

Make that Marchessault than yes, not that bum Stempniak

it's ok

when Kane gets extended this summer, there will be people jumping off the bridge

5 years 30 mil
- homiedclown

at least.

Anything less than 6 years would surprise me

I'm in the sit back and wait approach to see what happens after the dust settles as far as making deals, now if the deal is there that's great. One thing about the Pens when Botterill was there, they don't panic.
- SABRES 89

Exactly. I assume GMJB is playing the long game anyway. Not too long, but still.

Last night on the NHL network, the guys were picking there expansion players and all of them picked Ullmark in there draft, now it was a mock but all of them picked him. I like Carrier but we need Ullmark.

it's ok

when Kane gets extended this summer, there will be people jumping off the bridge

5 years 30 mil
- homiedclown

Funny, but when I thought about what I would be willing to give Kane, 5 years $30 million was exactly the number I came up with.

it's ok

when Kane gets extended this summer, there will be people jumping off the bridge

5 years 30 mil
- homiedclown

Going to be long stages of talks if they both agree on him staying as far as contracts go.

Funny, but when I thought about what I would be willing to give Kane, 5 years $30 million was exactly the number I came up with.
- Pierceme69

5.75X4 years is as high as id go

With everything we know about Vegas right now I feel we could've easily protected Carrier and left Ennis unprotected. I don't think they would've taken Ullmark given their GMs comments. Doing so likely would've forced them to take one of our bigger contracts now we hand Carrier on a silver platter to them. Kind of aggravates me.
- bluengold12

Don't assume this. I'm guessing the 2 gm's talked and he had to expose Carrier to avoid losing Ullmark. The front office is pretty tight-lipped these days (we knew nothing about the "Booya" trade til it happened. For all we know we may have a trade in place. Dreaming, but.....

Theodore + Neal

for

Reinhart + Moulsen + Gorges + both of our 2nds.

This fan base needs to temper expectations. There's a lot of work to be done.
- Sabresfan-365

I don't think we need to temper crap! This is the easiest league in sports to make the playoffs! It's got the most parity. I guarantee you if we don't make the playoffs this year Eichel will likely flip his lid and probably want to get the F out. Can't say I blame him when he sees other pathetic franchises like Edmonton and Toronto become perennial playoff contenders. I think we still need to make a few moves but playoffs are very possible. Hopefully Botteril shows some moxie and makes the necessary moves.

Last night on the NHL network, the guys were picking there expansion players and all of them picked Ullmark in there draft, now it was a mock but all of them picked him. I like Carrier but we need Ullmark.
- SABRES 89

Tanguay was terrible...

5.75X4 years is as high as id go
- Sabresfan-365

They already agreed on 5 for 30.

It's almost an H8

Don't assume this. I'm guessing the 2 gm's talked and he had to expose Carrier to avoid losing Ullmark. The front office is pretty tight-lipped these days (we knew nothing about the "Booya" trade til it happened. For all we know we may have a trade in place. Dreaming, but.....

Theodore + Neal

for

Reinhart + Moulsen + Gorges + both of our 2nds.
- turbo044

First off I would never do this deal. Reinhart requires someone like Hanifin. Second of all that's what people are saying about Ullmark but if I was Botterill I would've called Vegas's bluff. They will not select a lot of goalies. GM said it himself. Focus is on D and wingers.

Tanguay was terrible...
- SyrSabreFan

Yea he drafted Lehtonen

5.75X4 years is as high as id go
- Sabresfan-365

You would draw the line 1 year less and only $250K per? Why? 5 years only takes him to 32.

I don't think we need to temper crap! This is the easiest league in sports to make the playoffs! It's got the most parity. I guarantee you if we don't make the playoffs this year Eichel will likely flip a poop and probably want to get the F out. Can't say I blame him when he sees other pathetic franchises like Edmonton and Toronto become perennial playoff contenders. I think we still need to make a few moves but playoffs are very possible. Hopefully Botteril shows some moxie and makes the necessary moves.
- bluengold12

but one of the toughest to win a championship. I thought that was the goal

So, you would have rather had him protect carrier, expose Ennis and thus lose Ullmark??
- turbo044

Yes. I don't think Ullmark is that good and there are better goalies out there for Vegas to take. Fleury, Rantaa, Grubby.

If I'm the Sabres I make a call on Grubby and Rantaa. Not sure what the cost will be but they're more sound that Lehner, and I am a Lehner advocate.