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SABRES 89
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:27 PM ET
For all the Carrier lovers out there, how would you feel if Botterill had given Vegas a second rounder to take Ulmark or one of our other plugs like Falk? Or how about a 1st rounder to Vegas to take Moulson off our hands? I am glad Botterill didn't pay a ransom to protect Carrier or to trade away Moulson's contract. I would rather have Moulson scoring 14 goals a year for the next two years on the 4th line and PP vs giving up a 1st.

While disappointed that Carrier is gone, I think he is definitively replaceable.

- SabreWest

During the first 9 picks coming up, the Sabres are included in those picks.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:27 PM ET
No I'm upset with the fact that Botteril couldn't do a deal to get rid of Moulson or BADgosian and now once we trade Kane by next week we'll have zero players to play top six LW so we'll likely have a combo of a vet we overpay for and Ennis and Moulson there and poor Eichel will see the 2nd longest active NHL playoff drought go another year.
- bluengold12



You're overreacting
There's plenty of time before the season starts dude

And giving up a 1st to get rid of Moulson or Bogo would've been stupid
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:27 PM ET
Carrier looked good there at least, he gave effort and speed. All Foligno and Girgensons did was miss wide open nets that the face of your franchise set them up with? My point is mainly about the glearing lack of LW depth now that could actually play in the top six and if we trade Kane which I'm expecting us to do we have no one there with the exception of concussion bound Ennis and at best he's a 2nd line LW. That's if he finds a way to regain his form from 7 years ago...
- bluengold12


That only gets you so far. I like the guy, but I'd rather have Ullmark, but if he got selected it's also no big loss. We're not losing a good player and we're not paying an absurd price to stay away from a good player. I'm fine with it.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:27 PM ET
It's not but goalies seem to fluctuate every year.

There's about 5 that are consistently really good. Lehner isn't there yet.

2-3 years ago, Dubnyk was bouncing around, now he's excellent.

Quick was a Vezina caliber goalie, now is incredibly average and can't stay healthy

Give him a 1 year

- sbroads24

I think term is a problem with all positions right now. I remember before the full lockout season, almost all contacts were between 1 and 3 years.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 21 @ 8:30 PM ET
They really still haven't released the official lists yet?

They acted like they were going to release them before the awards
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:30 PM ET
I'm glad Burns won, he deserved it
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 21 @ 8:30 PM ET
You're overreacting
There's plenty of time before the season starts dude

And giving up a 1st to get rid of Moulson or Bogo would've been stupid

- jdfitz77


as much as i dont want them doing much, this.

we havent even gotten to draft day (the real one this time) yet.
JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:30 PM ET
It might have something to do with the sabres only scoring 1 shootout goal. A little more pressure is adding to every attempt you face when you know your team doesn't score any.
- Mentalorgasm5


I thought about that as a possibility for last year, both because of the pressure you mentioned and because shootout practice probably is pretty useless when all the players on your team apparently suck at the shootout. The injury could've been an issue the previous year. It could be the goalie coach, too.

Regardless of the reason, looking at his whole career in the shootout, I don't believe Lehner is incapable of doing well in the shootout. At the same time, he has not been good (understatement alert) in the shootout as a Sabre, and they do need to sort that out if he's sticking around.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 21 @ 8:31 PM ET
I'm glad Burns won, he deserved it
- jdfitz77

I'm glad he won,

But Karlsson should have like 4+ Norris trophies at this point
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jun 21 @ 8:33 PM ET
McKenzie just confirmed on Twitter that Carrier it is.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 21 @ 8:33 PM ET
Idk, with the cap increases, 5 million for a goalie really isn't that crazy. I don't like paying goalies either. I hated Miller's contract, but he got that when the cap was high 40s-low 50s.

When I first heard he wants 5 million, I wanted him gone, until I researched what goalies make. I don't know if 5 million for a goalie is the end of the world these days.

- Mentalorgasm5



Let's go team by team...

Better goalies then Lehner....

Chicago, Blue Jackets, Blues, Senators, Kings, Bruins, Rangers, Penguins, Sharks, Predators, Canadians, Golden Knights, Capitals

Probably better... New Jersey, Edmonton, Dallas, Lightning, Leafs, Wild, Ducks
Might be better Winnipeg, Calgary,

That's 20 likely better goalies than Lehner if we take a few out from the probably better list it's still 16 or 17 better.
SABRES 89
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Jun 21 @ 8:33 PM ET
And there you have it, Carrier and a 6th rounder ?
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 21 @ 8:33 PM ET
Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie 35s35 seconds ago
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From the Buffalo Sabres, VGK take William Carrier, forward.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:34 PM ET
Wow we gave a pick to predict to Ullmark.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:34 PM ET
We lost Carrier AND a 6th?!!!

Wtf... the sky is falling! The sky is falling!!!
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jun 21 @ 8:35 PM ET
And there you have it, Carrier and a 6th rounder ?
- SABRES 89


No biggie on the 6th. I guess they really wanted to keep Ulmark.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 21 @ 8:36 PM ET
No biggie on the 6th. I guess they really wanted to keep Ulmark.
- SabreWest



well it also lets them keep guys like girgs and foligno who could probably see their value rise and turned into 2nd/3rd round picks
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 21 @ 8:36 PM ET
Wow we gave a pick to predict to Ullmark.
- Mentalorgasm5



The GM said there were TWO players who they were interested in. Who would have been the other?

Edit: nvm. Carrier was the second.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:36 PM ET
I'm glad he won,

But Karlsson should have like 4+ Norris trophies at this point

- chilliard77



Disagree
Others who won it (Doughty) deserved it

Who do u think didn't deserve it?
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:36 PM ET
We lost Carrier AND a 6th?!!!

Wtf... the sky is falling! The sky is falling!!!

- jdfitz77

People were having a poopfit when we didn't acquire a 6th for kulikov.....
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 21 @ 8:36 PM ET
Nick Filipowski‏Verified account @NICK_WKBW 43s44 seconds ago
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McPhee says there were 2 other #Sabres he was interested in - BUF threw in 6th rounder to push them in different direction @WKBW


old man foligno works for them now, id bet it was marcus and linus
SABRES 89
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Jun 21 @ 8:36 PM ET
No biggie on the 6th. I guess they really wanted to keep Ulmark.
- SabreWest

Botterill has a plan, it's not like we don't have time to see what happens
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 21 @ 8:38 PM ET
Wow we gave a pick to predict to Ullmark.
- Mentalorgasm5


I guess Ullmark is on the team this year
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:38 PM ET
as much as i dont want them doing much, this.

we havent even gotten to draft day (the real one this time) yet.

- Sabresfan-365



Trades are supposedly lined up to be announced tomorrow
Although I'm not gonna hold my breath this time
Hahaha
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 21 @ 8:38 PM ET
Nick Filipowski‏Verified account @NICK_WKBW 43s44 seconds ago
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McPhee says there were 2 other #Sabres he was interested in - BUF threw in 6th rounder to push them in different direction @WKBW


old man foligno works for them now, id bet it was marcus and linus

- Sabresfan-365


If a 6th round pick changed his mind he must not have been super interested
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