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PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:06 AM ET
Im actually starting to think Vilardi could fall to us. Would be intriguing and hard to pass up


Gut says we end up with one of the following:

Tippett
Liljegren
Makar(not at 8 though)

- MCGUIZZY


Would you call Vilardi "The Fall Guy"?

https://youtu.be/dj9ev40C30M
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:06 AM ET
If I'm the sabres gm for a day this is what I do:
Trade #8 and Kane to Dallas for #3

Trade #3 and girgs to NJ for #1 and take Patrick or Nico. Nj needs centers but want makar, this gives them both.

Trade a 2nd and larrsons (or similar) to LV for Neil

Trade Reinhart for Hanifin (Jack's best friend)

Some of this might not be equitable, but I don't think it's too far off

- turbo044


you are not getting #1 for girgs and #3

There are more signs of devil's going center with the #1 pick, pretty much the only person who said makar was some random guy at espn and even then he said the devils would trade down if that was the case and it would have to be a trade that the devils get big assets back
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:06 AM ET
Peterson not signing. Pretty much official
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 23 @ 11:07 AM ET
Not surprising, but here it is from the horse's mouth.

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turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:10 AM ET
Going to cost a lot more than that for Hanifin or as Garth likes to say Hanifan.
- Matthews_Auston


You may be right, though, they were drafted in similar spots and both teams need the other player more than the current team does. It would be a good hockey trade for both teams.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:13 AM ET
Peterson not signing. Pretty much official
- MCGUIZZY


Would've been nice if Botts could've made this happen.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:14 AM ET
Not surprising, but here it is from the horse's mouth.

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- Cup Crazy '07



Good that we know. Move on.

JB will pick goalie in 2nd round. Fans will be in an uproar.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:15 AM ET
Would've been nice if Botts could've made this happen.
- PrinceChill



I think he made his decision a while ago. Even before Botteril.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
Peterson not signing. Pretty much official
- MCGUIZZY

Another greedy little s..t head like Vesey
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
Peterson not signing. Pretty much official
- MCGUIZZY

Time to change the rules. If you don't sign with the team who drafted you by the deadline you go back into the next years draft
bberkey1
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.23.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
Peterson not signing. Pretty much official
- MCGUIZZY

Don't worry, when and only when the college loophole affects one of the NHL's darling teams such as the Pens or Hawks, will they close said loophole. Until then, they're more than happy to allow top talent to go to already established teams with no ill effect.

Meanwhile, the NHL will continue to screw the lottery percentages so teams who need help won't receive the help they need to build all the while trying to prevent tanking (which only has encouraged more tanking, as teams sitting at 11,12,13 saw how the flyers jumped, so why not tank to try and get into a better position for a legitimate chance to jump x amount of spots, not too mention NJ jumping to the top, all the while the yotes getting screwed yet again)

Finally, we'll add more teams to thin out the talent and force those teams who already have little, to decide who give up, when they may not have much to begin with.

rant over
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:24 AM ET
Methot does not want to play in Canada according to TSN every Canadian team is out per his list of approved trade teams
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:27 AM ET
Time to change the rules. If you don't sign with the team who drafted you by the deadline you go back into the next years draft
- lulags


Should the Sabres start to avoid drafting college players? Unless it's a top-end guy that it is known will not finish his college career (Eichel), seems pretty risky.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:30 AM ET
Time to change the rules. If you don't sign with the team who drafted you by the deadline you go back into the next years draft
- lulags



I think the solution should be:

The team that loses the player gets a compensatory pick from the team that signs them
bberkey1
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.23.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:31 AM ET
Should the Sabres start to avoid drafting college players? Unless it's a top-end guy that it is known will not finish his college career (Eichel), seems pretty risky.
- PrinceChill

I'd imagine a lot of organizations will start to steer clear of them, unless they are well established contenders. Then again, the more teams pass on those kids, the more likely they just naturally fall to a contender to which they will have no problem signing with.
bberkey1
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.23.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:32 AM ET
I think the solution should be:

The team that loses the player gets a compensatory pick from the team that signs them

- MCGUIZZY

or like NCAA: you lose one year of eligibility. No AHL, CHL etc. nothing but practice with the team and collect a paycheck. Red-shirted I suppose might be the right analogy
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:34 AM ET
or like NCAA: you lose one year of eligibility. No AHL, CHL etc. nothing but practice with the team and collect a paycheck. Red-shirted I suppose might be the right analogy
- bberkey1



Well the thinking behind the draft pick is:

if they make the compensatory pick high enough (1st or 2nd depending on original draft status), then most if not all teams will avoid it and forces the player to sign due to no other options.
bberkey1
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.23.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:39 AM ET
Well the thinking behind the draft pick is:

if they make the compensatory pick high enough (1st or 2nd depending on original draft status), then most if not all teams will avoid it and forces the player to sign due to no other options.

- MCGUIZZY

Gotcha. Yeah, I'd be all for something along those lines as well. It's really only going to get worse before it gets better, but let's hope it's capped soon. Imagine Eichel saying "I love the pens. Screw the draft, I'll just wait 30 days and sign, then boom 5 peat"
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:39 AM ET
I love how all the comments suggest reinhart and kane are expendable

who scores the goals when they are moved


ennis?
foligno?

- homiedclown


If anyone expects Ennis to contribute anything this season, they're high.

Botterill has an absolute ton to do: still on the roster are Bogosian, Gorges, Ennis, Moulson. Girgensons doesn't score goals. Antipin and the Hab will help. And they're seemingly trading Evander Kane?

Season has disaster written all over it.
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Still Suffering 2024, FL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 23 @ 11:41 AM ET
If anyone expects Ennis to contribute anything this season, they're high.

Botterill has an absolute ton to do: still on the roster are Bogosian, Gorges, Ennis, Moulson. Girgensons doesn't score goals. Antipin and the Hab will help. And they're seemingly trading Evander Kane?

Season has disaster written all over it.

- PassionBucket16


Word
metzeric
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.06.2006

Jun 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
@PierreVLeBrun Expectation is that will be Randy Sexton, who will leave Penguins to become Sabres AGM and GM of Rochester
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
If anyone expects Ennis to contribute anything this season, they're high.

Botterill has an absolute ton to do: still on the roster are Bogosian, Gorges, Ennis, Moulson. Girgensons doesn't score goals. Antipin and the Hab will help. And they're seemingly trading Evander Kane?

Season has disaster written all over it.

- PassionBucket16


I think this is true and it's a little disheartening. Unless the team's struggles were mostly a problem with coaching, Sabres could very well be drafting at 8 a year from now.
But, I will talk myself into whoever we draft, and before the season starts, I'll be convinced we're a playoff team.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:02 PM ET
Darren Derger on odds Kane will be dealt "Pretty good, quite frankly"
- sbroads24




Won't be to Minnesota!!!
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:02 PM ET
Hjalmarsson to AZ
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 23 @ 12:08 PM ET
Hjalmarsson to AZ
- MCGUIZZY


What is the return on him?
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