That's why the Flyers should ask about him if dealing with Dallas. The Flyers need this type of player. it seems that Manning and a 30 goal scorer were the only ones to drop the gloves. I don't want to say they were a "soft" team last year, but they were a team who needs more "character". Roussel is no Hartnell but he pisses people off and isn't afraid to drop them.
- 3flyerkids

Yeah cause the last couple of cup champions had an agitator on the fourth line and people who "had character"

it's harder to do that with the cap in place. Simmer might be the only guy we have under contract that will work for. That said, I don't want to trade him.
- jaws1955

Yeah, he'd be a tough guy to move and with 2 years still on his current deal, there is no rush to do so. However, unless they think they are a legit contender going into 18-19 (pretty unlikely), next offseason would be the smart time to move him.

I'm very leery about re-signing soon to be 31 year old power forwards to long term, big money deals.

Yeah cause the last couple of cup champions had an agitator on the fourth line and people who "had character"
- bulet13

Roussel had 12 goals and 27 points in 60 games and was a +1 on a very bad Dallas team. He can play at ES and he can kill penalties as well, agitating the opposition is just a bonus.

I would worry about Roussell getting penalized more as a Flyer. The refs see Orange and the arm goes up.

Yeah, he'd be a tough guy to move and with 2 years still on his current deal, there is no rush to do so. However, unless they think they are a legit contender going into 18-19 (pretty unlikely), next offseason would be the smart time to move him.

I'm very leery about re-signing soon to be 31 year old power forwards to long term, big money deals.
- BiggE

Also the deal he is on right now is super affordable so that is something that every team can use.

I wonder what AZ will do. With what happened last night they seem like a team that could do something outrages today.

I would worry about Roussell getting penalized more as a Flyer. The refs see Orange and the arm goes up.
- Feanor

Ain't that the truth

Also the deal he is on right now is super affordable so that is something that every team can use.

I wonder what AZ will do. With what happened last night they seem like a team that could do something outrages today.
- J35Bacher

We should offer em #2 and AMac for #7 and OEL

Roussel had 12 goals and 27 points in 60 games and was a +1 on a very bad Dallas team. He can play at ES and he can kill penalties as well, agitating the opposition is just a bonus.
- BiggE

And he is french...we are down a frenchman

And he is french...we are down a frenchman
- YuenglingJagr

Well, there ya have it then!

We should offer em #2 and AMac for #7 and OEL

- BiggE

Yes send us your brand new captain...

Don't see it happening, but for me to make that deal, they'd have to take AMac and send us Methot. I'd much rather have Methot pairing with Provy on the top pair than AMac. I'd also let them keep the 15th overall and instead give us their unprotected 2018 pick with the codicil that if it is a top 3 pick, they Flyers will also give them their 2018 2nd.

However, I really think there is very slim to no chance that we will see Hexy making this kind of blockbuster deal today.,
- BiggE

In my mind the importance of this draft to the Flyers future can't be overstated. So you'd value moving MacDonald that much to change your mind about trading the 2nd overall pick? Doesn't add up in my opinion.

Roussel had 12 goals and 27 points in 60 games and was a +1 on a very bad Dallas team. He can play at ES and he can kill penalties as well, agitating the opposition is just a bonus.
- BiggE

He is a solid PK guy.

I wonder if you would be able to get the rights to Nichushkin. I know people seem to sour on him but he could be an interesting prospect.

Roussel had 12 goals and 27 points in 60 games and was a +1 on a very bad Dallas team. He can play at ES and he can kill penalties as well, agitating the opposition is just a bonus.
- BiggE

He is a solid PK guy.

I wonder if you would be able to get the rights to Nichushkin. I know people seem to sour on him but he could be an interesting prospect.

In my mind the importance of this draft to the Flyers future can't be overstated. So you'd value moving MacDonald that much to change your mind about trading the 2nd overall pick? Doesn't add up in my opinion.
- MJL

Agree.

This pick dropped in our laps. This very well could be our future number 1 center(if patrick) i believe.

In my mind the importance of this draft to the Flyers future can't be overstated. So you'd value moving MacDonald that much to change your mind about trading the 2nd overall pick? Doesn't add up in my opinion.
- MJL

I'm actually most interested in their 2018 unprotected 1st which will likely be top 5 in what most scouts feel is a stronger draft than 2017, turning AMac into Methot (who has one year less left on his deal) would just be a bonus.

And, actually the importance of this draft to the Flyers can be overstated. Neither of the top 2 guys is a sure fire 1C. You aren't trading McDavid or Mathews or even Eichel if you move that pick. IMO, getting the 6th pick this year, another mid round 2017 1st, LV's unprotected 2018 1st and upgrading your D while simultaneously bettering your long term cap picture is worth making a deal.

I could see Simmonds moving for maybe a pair of the 1st's from Vegas. Not the 6th, but maybe the Jets and Isles pick. I don't know how to feel about it though.

Roussel had 12 goals and 27 points in 60 games and was a +1 on a very bad Dallas team. He can play at ES and he can kill penalties as well, agitating the opposition is just a bonus.
- BiggE

Exactly, he is not a difference maker just a type of player that would be a solid fit

I'm pretty sure Methot is a left side only guy like Provorov. He's not the top pairing complement we are looking for. Provorov-Gudas deserves a shot first.

Provy-Gudas
Hagg/Sanheim-MacDonald
Morin-Ghost
Manning

I could see Simmonds moving for maybe a pair of the 1st's from Vegas. Not the 6th, but maybe the Jets and Isles pick. I don't know how to feel about it though.
- hereticpride

Not good enough for me. Mid round 1st's in this years draft could be very good players, but they could also just be average players or end up as busts. Besides, I think the better move would be move Simmonds at the deadline to a contender. That's when you'll find a GM to break the bank to get a guy like Simmer that they can afford under the cap.

I'm pretty sure Methot is a left side only guy like Provorov. He's not the top pairing complement we are looking for. Provorov-Gudas deserves a shot first.

I'm fine with Provy-Gudas, but IIRC, Provorov, when paired with AMac, often played his off side.


Provy-Gudas
Hagg/Sanheim-MacDonald
Morin-Ghost
Manning
- Feanor

I could see Simmonds moving for maybe a pair of the 1st's from Vegas. Not the 6th, but maybe the Jets and Isles pick. I don't know how to feel about it though.
- hereticpride

I don't want just picks.


And if Vegas wants him 6 has to be involved.

I could see Simmonds moving for maybe a pair of the 1st's from Vegas. Not the 6th, but maybe the Jets and Isles pick. I don't know how to feel about it though.
- hereticpride

I don't want just picks.


And if Vegas wants him 6 has to be involved.

Exactly, he is not a difference maker just a type of player that would be a solid fit
- 3flyerkids

He'd certainly be an upgrade over Weise

I'm actually most interested in their 2018 unprotected 1st which will likely be top 5 in what most scouts feel is a stronger draft than 2017, turning AMac into Methot (who has one year less left on his deal) would just be a bonus.

And, actually the importance of this draft to the Flyers can be overstated. Neither of the top 2 guys is a sure fire 1C. You aren't trading McDavid or Mathews or even Eichel if you move that pick. IMO, getting the 6th pick this year, another mid round 2017 1st, LV's unprotected 2018 1st and upgrading your D while simultaneously bettering your long term cap picture is worth making a deal.
- BiggE

I think you're drastically overvaluing the importance of moving MacDonald to better the future cap situation as part of the deal, versus the importance of this pick. This was a gift and gave the Flyers a legitimate chance to obtain a future top line center. Moving MacDonald would have no influence on trading the #2 pick if I was involved.

I'm pretty sure Methot is a left side only guy like Provorov. He's not the top pairing complement we are looking for. Provorov-Gudas deserves a shot first.

Provy-Gudas
Hagg/Sanheim-MacDonald
Morin-Ghost
Manning
- Feanor

I like Gudas.

Just not as a first pairing guy.