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CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:03 PM ET
Mhmmm so salty
- Feds91Stammer



Salty? No. Facts. Good ones at that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 2:04 PM ET
If he is so good at managing his cap why is there a CHI fire sale every off season?
- Feds91Stammer


The nature of the NHL salary Cap. Build a great team that wins 3 Cups, has a roster full of top players, which leads to lower draft picks and a lack of top prospects on EL deals will lead to cap issues. That would happen to every single team in that situation.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:06 PM ET
The nature of the NHL salary Cap. Build a great team that wins 3 Cups, has a roster full of top players, which leads to lower draft picks and a lack of top prospects on EL deals will lead to cap issues. That would happen to every single team in that situation.
- MJL


Bingo. He's addressing the current & near future cap challenges by getting younger with more cap controlled players with skill and talent (Saad IS an elite power forward) and backfilling holes with cheap/veteran fill-ins while supporting a roster with three of the best players in the NHL still on it.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:07 PM ET
Awww....struck a nerve with that one. Yup. The Hawks who have won three cups, and are usually a top three western conference team sucks. Yup, Stan Bowman, who retooled the team twice to produce two more cups after that sucks. I guess the Hawks should find old broken players like Kronwall and Franzen and sign them to mega deals. That should fix their problems

Stop trolling. Real hockey fans know the ins and outs of deals. So either you're dumb or you are trying to be funny. Fail on both accounts. This deal made sense for both teams. Arizona should now try to trade Hammer at the deadline for a kings ransom to get some great prospects and develop a core of young talent. Hate all you want but the Hawks fans on here are right both about this trade and about Tanner.

- Shamz24

Again trying to attack the DET side of things LMAO. I have been rooting for this team to suck for the past 3 seasons...

How did this deal make sense for CHI?
Shamz24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Lawn, IL
Joined: 03.27.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:07 PM ET
I'm not really sure how bringing up something that has nothing to do with the topic of discussion makes sense? That usually says you don't have the brain capacity to put forth a logical argument, so you deflect to another teams situation to mask the criticism of your teams situation.
- j.boyd919


Read between the lines. He's a Detroit fan criticizing our GM. Ironic since his GM is by far the worst in the league. So it's hard to take someone seriously when they support a franchise that doesn't know cap management and then in previous posts show they are about as savy at understanding the cap as their GM. Guess I'll spell it out better next time to the lowest common denominator.....dumb.
Shamz24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Lawn, IL
Joined: 03.27.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:08 PM ET
I'm not really sure how bringing up something that has nothing to do with the topic of discussion makes sense? That usually says you don't have the brain capacity to put forth a logical argument, so you deflect to another teams situation to mask the criticism of your teams situation.
- j.boyd919


And how is the argument not logical? Read up and you will see a very logical analysis of why this was a good trade for both teams despite Tanner's boyish and sad blog.
Shamz24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Lawn, IL
Joined: 03.27.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:08 PM ET
I'm not really sure how bringing up something that has nothing to do with the topic of discussion makes sense? That usually says you don't have the brain capacity to put forth a logical argument, so you deflect to another teams situation to mask the criticism of your teams situation.
- j.boyd919


Read between the lines. He's a Detroit fan criticizing our GM. Ironic since his GM is by far the worst in the league. So it's hard to take someone seriously when they support a franchise that doesn't know cap management and then in previous posts show they are about as savy at understanding the cap as their GM. Guess I'll spell it out better next time to the lowest common denominator.....dumb.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:09 PM ET
Bingo. He's addressing the current & near future cap challenges by getting younger with more cap controlled players with skill and talent (Saad IS an elite power forward) and backfilling holes with cheap/veteran fill-ins while supporting a roster with three of the best players in the NHL still on it.
- CaptainBlackhawk

Tanuki
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.27.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:09 PM ET
So, ends up that piece of garbage player was the #3 prospect on the team with "the best prospect pool in the NHL by a good six miles>"

http://www.hockeysfuture....coyotes-top-20-prospects/

Not doing your homework as presenting it as fact is a sign of being lazy and unethical - especially when you lie about a fact to make a point.

Just stick to doing what you do best: Insulting people who disagree with you.

Hugs and kisses.

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:10 PM ET
Read between the lines. He's a Detroit fan criticizing our GM. Ironic since his GM is by far the worst in the league. So it's hard to take someone seriously when they support a franchise that doesn't know cap management and then in previous posts show they are about as savy at understanding the cap as their GM. Guess I'll spell it out better next time to the lowest common denominator.....dumb.
- Shamz24

So because a GM I wanted fired years ago sucks I can't criticize CHIs GM? Sound logic there bud.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:10 PM ET
Again trying to attack the DET side of things LMAO. I have been rooting for this team to suck for the past 3 seasons...

How did this deal make sense for CHI?

- Feds91Stammer


Hammer is 30 and has a lot of miles on his legs.
In the near future he's going to want a contract that the Hawks simply cannot afford.
Also: I PROMISE you that Stan Bo shopped Hammer and this was the best return.

They get two developmental prospects with one of them having ability to fill a top two pairing on the NHL level with better players around him and the other being an organization's top 3.

The Hawks will backfill the Hammer loss for THIS season at some point this offseason.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
So, ends up that piece of garbage player was the #3 prospect on the team with "the best prospect pool in the NHL by a good six miles>"

http://www.hockeysfuture....coyotes-top-20-prospects/

Not doing your homework as presenting it as fact is a sign of being lazy and unethical - especially when you lie about a fact to make a point.

Just stick to doing what you do best: Insulting people who disagree with you.

Hugs and kisses.

- Tanuki

Highly recommend not looking at hockeys future for prospect rankings.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
Hammer is 30 and has a lot of miles on his legs.
In the near future he's going to want a contract that the Hawks simply cannot afford.
Also: I PROMISE you that Stan Bo shopped Hammer and this was the best return.

They get two developmental prospects with one of them having ability to fill a top two pairing on the NHL level with better players around him and the other being an organization's top 3.

The Hawks will backfill the Hammer loss for THIS season at some point this offseason.

- CaptainBlackhawk


Also: The Hawks couldn't afford to take on a veteran in return for Hammer - veteran = higher salary.
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
Oh suck it leon
- Feds91Stammer

Fine. I gotta go keep an eye on grampa Iggy in Hendos new thread anyways . He'll be super stoked about the new Russell deal.
CanesFans94
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Rijeka
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
Tanner this just shows that the only stupid thing Chayka has ever done wasn't his fault. That is Murphy's contract. Now it's obvius that this was Tippet's sign. Great day for Arizona. I smell high end contender very soon there.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
The nature of the NHL salary Cap. Build a great team that wins 3 Cups, has a roster full of top players, which leads to lower draft picks and a lack of top prospects on EL deals will lead to cap issues. That would happen to every single team in that situation.
- MJL

I wish that would happen to my team.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
Hammer is 30 and has a lot of miles on his legs.
In the near future he's going to want a contract that the Hawks simply cannot afford.
Also: I PROMISE you that Stan Bo shopped Hammer and this was the best return.

They get two developmental prospects with one of them having ability to fill a top two pairing on the NHL level with better players around him and the other being an organization's top 3.

The Hawks will backfill the Hammer loss for THIS season at some point this offseason.

- CaptainBlackhawk


spin zone. murphy at 24 is not a prospect. he's terrible. enjoy watching him get hemmed in his own zone shift after shift.

dauphin is just not very good either. developing into a decent 3rd line player in a couple years would be a huge win.

chayka owned bowman on this trade.
metalmaster
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jun 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
just wondering if tanner ever played hockey or watched..grew up wit it as a kid
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:17 PM ET
spin zone. murphy at 24 is not a prospect. he's terrible. enjoy watching him get hemmed in his own zone shift after shift.

dauphin is just not very good either. developing into a decent 3rd line player in a couple years would be a huge win.

chayka owned bowman on this trade.

- Tumbleweed


I'll take the opinion of hockey scouting reports over a Maple Leafs blog contributor. Thanks!
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
I'll take the opinion of hockey scouting reports over a Maple Leafs blog contributor. Thanks!
- CaptainBlackhawk


lol. prepare to be disappointed. i've been to enough yotes games to know what murphy is all about.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:20 PM ET
lol. prepare to be disappointed. i've been to enough yotes games to know what murphy is all about.
- Tumbleweed


Yep - playing along side hot trailer trash and a roster full of AHL'ers.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:20 PM ET
spin zone. murphy at 24 is not a prospect. he's terrible. enjoy watching him get hemmed in his own zone shift after shift.

dauphin is just not very good either. developing into a decent 3rd line player in a couple years would be a huge win.

chayka owned bowman on this trade.

- Tumbleweed

Nah he is suddenly going to be good now because CHI is the bestest.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 23 @ 2:20 PM ET
just wondering if tanner ever played hockey or watched..grew up wit it as a kid
- metalmaster

As a child, he would make his own punch cards after Leafs games.

Check out this game summary from a Leafs/Nordiques game:



Wow, Iafrate had a bad game!
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:21 PM ET
Yep - playing along side hot trailer trash and a roster full of AHL'ers.
- CaptainBlackhawk

LOL outside of DK that CHI blue line is trash.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:21 PM ET
Yep - playing along side hot trailer trash and a roster full of AHL'ers.
- CaptainBlackhawk


they were a big part of the ahl problem.
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