Its the NHL man, these guys don't really get much better. If Murphy were to suddenly get good now, it'd be a Jose Bautista like rarity.

Playing on the Coyotes isn't that much different from playing on the Hawks in regards to what you're saying. You still play the same other teams and are coached by professionals.

If he does have a huge breakout, I am sure he would have also have had it had he stayed. Lots of players succeed on bad teams. OEL is one of the best, he's had zero help, zero good partners etc. but he still found a way to get good without knowing Duncan Keith personally.
- James_Tanner

Ahhh you almost had me going with this steaming pile but then I remembered what you just said
"I will never get over the fact that people take everything I say so seriously. There are these things called jokes......... "

So, ends up that piece of garbage player was the #3 prospect on the team with "the best prospect pool in the NHL by a good six miles>"

http://www.hockeysfuture....coyotes-top-20-prospects/

Not doing your homework as presenting it as fact is a sign of being lazy and unethical - especially when you lie about a fact to make a point.

Just stick to doing what you do best: Insulting people who disagree with you.

Hugs and kisses.
- Tanuki

Hockey's Future is not what I would use to rank the prospects, and DeAngleo certainly wasn't the third best prospect, that's insane (Strome, Keller, Chychrun, Dvorak, Duclair, Perlini, Fishcer etc).

I didn't lie, I never have. If not the Coyotes, who has a better prospect group? Come on.

Where exactly is the potential?
- Feds91Stammer

Murphy....Has great skating ability and loads of defensive acumen. Can make an impact at the highest level because he can get under opponents' skin. Also boasts a tremendous (6-4, 212 pounds) frame.

So for a team that got pushed around in the Nashville series...and has been pushed around for much of the season....this addresses size and physicality with said potential.

Dauphin...A true speedster, his skating stride sets him apart from the rest. It helps him create plays and finish them off, as well. It can also be used to disrupt the opposition.

The Hawks were slow this year. They are a puck moving team that rolls four lines. They need to be young and fast to be successful doing this. So again, said potential.

Both players add depth and address current needs for the team. If it pans out then great. If it doesn't, then they will be in Rockford and the Hawks will have some money to sign someone else.

Tanner this just shows that the only stupid thing Chayka has ever done wasn't his fault. That is Murphy's contract. Now it's obvius that this was Tippet's sign. Great day for Arizona. I smell high end contender very soon there.
- CanesFans94

Like I said, the Murphy deal was pretty smart - you bet on your own guy and there is zero risk because you can always move him out if it doesn't work out.

Wow some beautiful posts by the chicago kids here. I know philly has some brutal fans, but this is 4 full pages of cringe worthy garbage.

I thought OEL regularly attended the Duncan Keith school for kids who play on teams that suck but want to be an elite D man anyways
- Feds91Stammer

Damn, I'm wrong again!

I would say that AZ won the trade, but I don't agree the Hawks got fleeced. Hammer was one of my favorite Hawks, and he will be missed, but he is also 30, and only has another year or two in his prime. Murphy is not nearly the D-man that Hammer is, but I would argue that the Hawks can get more out of him than AZ could. You can't compare the rosters over the past 5 years, nor can you compare the coaching. CHI is leaps and bounds ahead of AZ. AZ has a good future with all the talent they've drafted/acquired over the last 3 years or so, but the Hawks have established players and coaches. Plus, with the Hawks signing Ulf Samuelsson to replace Kitchen, their defensive coaching staff is improved. TWT if they can get through to Murphy, but I like the Hawks' chances.

Wow some beautiful posts by the chicago kids here. I know philly has some brutal fans, but this is 4 full pages of cringe worthy garbage.
- Girouxsalem90

Says the Philly guy making the garbage post.....

Hockey's Future is not what I would use to rank the prospects, and DeAngleo certainly wasn't the third best prospect, that's insane (Strome, Keller, Chychrun, Dvorak, Duclair, Perlini, Fishcer etc).

I didn't lie, I never have. If not the Coyotes, who has a better prospect group? Come on.
- James_Tanner

Flyers (Provorov, Sanheim, Konecny, Morin, Myers, Lindholm, Rubtsov, (#2) ?

Says the Philly guy making the garbage post.....
- Shamz24

(frank)ing Flyers fans are punch drunk goons the whole lot of them.

Murphy....Has great skating ability and loads of defensive acumen. Can make an impact at the highest level because he can get under opponents' skin. Also boasts a tremendous (6-4, 212 pounds) frame.

So for a team that got pushed around in the Nashville series...and has been pushed around for much of the season....this addresses size and physicality with said potential.

Dauphin...A true speedster, his skating stride sets him apart from the rest. It helps him create plays and finish them off, as well. It can also be used to disrupt the opposition.

The Hawks were slow this year. They are a puck moving team that rolls four lines. They need to be young and fast to be successful doing this. So again, said potential.

Both players add depth and address current needs for the team. If it pans out then great. If it doesn't, then they will be in Rockford and the Hawks will have some money to sign someone else.
- Shamz24

Question. How come Murphy has sucked then?

Dauphin can't even beat out a guy like Jurco.

They saved a whopping $250k

Flyers (Provorov, Sanheim, Konecny, Morin, Myers, Lindholm, Rubtsov, (#2) ?
- MJL

It's a wash imo. Both have extremely strong prospect pools.

Flyers (Provorov, Sanheim, Konecny, Morin, Myers, Lindholm, Rubtsov, (#2) ?
- MJL

add in a goalie

On paper right now the trade heavily favors Phoenix. Honestly put yourself in their shoes. I can see how Chicago fans are trying to look at the deal optimistically. It's hockey, never know what can happen moving forward.

add in a goalie
- rinaldo

Hart, Sandstrom

(frank)ing Flyers fans are punch drunk goons the whole lot of them.
- leonkennedy

Love you too buddy

I would say that AZ won the trade, but I don't agree the Hawks got fleeced. Hammer was one of my favorite Hawks, and he will be missed, but he is also 30, and only has another year or two in his prime. Murphy is not nearly the D-man that Hammer is, but I would argue that the Hawks can get more out of him than AZ could. You can't compare the rosters over the past 5 years, nor can you compare the coaching. CHI is leaps and bounds ahead of AZ. AZ has a good future with all the talent they've drafted/acquired over the last 3 years or so, but the Hawks have established players and coaches. Plus, with the Hawks signing Ulf Samuelsson to replace Kitchen, their defensive coaching staff is improved. TWT if they can get through to Murphy, but I like the Hawks' chances.
- tvetter

This! Dolphin is a guy who will play NHL minutes too. I like the rangers trade much more for the yotes, particularly if Stepan was just having an off year. I found myself agreeing with Tanner quite a bit lately, other than the pandering to his own masterbatory "I was so right" bullpoop, Tippett is out. Doan gone, flipped some young pieces for some pieces to take pressure off the kids (stepan should do this in particualr) =. How's your heart doing Tanner? I feel like you have a hockey chub that is been going for a few days straight.

On paper right now the trade heavily favors Phoenix. Honestly put yourself in their shoes. I can see how Chicago fans are trying to look at the deal optimistically. It's hockey, never know what can happen moving forward.
- MJL

Definitely could work out well, but in the short term it definitely favors the yotes, and I would think Chicago should have more of a short term mindset right now to try to grab another cup within the next two years. That being said the Saad/Forsberg pick up was a great move, especially considering Hossa is most likely done.

Yotes will have a hard time keeping Hjalmarsson when his contract expires and Hawks would have had similar issue with 4 and 72 down the road. Ulf Samuelsson will help young Murphy's game a great deal. Necessary long-term cap move for the Hawks and Yotes doing what they can to keep up with the league. Good for both teams. Nobody got "fleeced" here.

Flyers (Provorov, Sanheim, Konecny, Morin, Myers, Lindholm, Rubtsov, (#2) ?
- MJL

Lindblom*




Great moves by the Yotes today, not gonna lie !

So, ends up that piece of garbage player was the #3 prospect on the team with "the best prospect pool in the NHL by a good six miles>"

http://www.hockeysfuture....coyotes-top-20-prospects/

Not doing your homework as presenting it as fact is a sign of being lazy and unethical - especially when you lie about a fact to make a point.

Just stick to doing what you do best: Insulting people who disagree with you.

Hugs and kisses.
- Tanuki

Embarrassing post...hockey's future hasn't been updated in like two years. If it had been the list would look totally different, with Keller, merkley, Fischer, wood all higher than dauphin, which is after the other players on the list or in the league like Strome, Dvorak, domi; Duclair, chychrun, and perlini. The coyotes are stacked and while I do like dauphin in a 4th line role, he is highly expendable for the coyotes.

Murphy....Has great skating ability and loads of defensive acumen. Can make an impact at the highest level because he can get under opponents' skin. Also boasts a tremendous (6-4, 212 pounds) frame.

So for a team that got pushed around in the Nashville series...and has been pushed around for much of the season....this addresses size and physicality with said potential.

Dauphin...A true speedster, his skating stride sets him apart from the rest. It helps him create plays and finish them off, as well. It can also be used to disrupt the opposition.

The Hawks were slow this year. They are a puck moving team that rolls four lines. They need to be young and fast to be successful doing this. So again, said potential.

Both players add depth and address current needs for the team. If it pans out then great. If it doesn't, then they will be in Rockford and the Hawks will have some money to sign someone else.
- Shamz24

Mmmmm, not quite so much. Has decent speed, not great. As far as finishing plays off. Not so much either. Watched him all season, wasn't very impressed. Just plays average. In 108 AHL games, he's got 29g, 24a, 53pts. Potential, yeah, I could agree. He might do better playing with better talent as well.

Brutal Trade

Keith and Hammer were a stop gap to the Disaster that is Brent Seabrook.

When he wasn't paired with either of those 2 he is a dumpster fire.

Question. How come Murphy has sucked then?

Dauphin can't even beat out a guy like Jurco.

They saved a whopping $250k
- Feds91Stammer

Murphy and Dauphin are playing with garbage players in a dysfunctional organization. There is no winning culture there and no real desire by anyone to actually go out and win a cup. Both players might have a real chance to flourish in an organization committed to hockey. But this is all speculation. We are speculating that they will suck or flourish just like we are speculating that Hammer wont have his skills decline rapidly or that the will stay in Phoenix. That is why I said no one got fleeced here. Both teams have the potential to win and lose in this trade. Time will tell. But on the surface, there is upside for the Hawks down the road and upside for the Yotes today. Nothing wrong with that considering the Hawks weren't going to be able to resign Hammer anyway.

Some very nice moves by Chayka and the new ownership.
A couple solid trades (and the subtractions of Doan and Tippet) and suddenly this team is starting to look like there is a plan in place.

If you were going to trade the 7th OA, this was the year to do it by all reports. I don't know DeAngelo or the other prospects that well, but it sounds like they won't be missed too much and are well worth what they bring in. Murphy was probably still overvalued a bit for being a first round draftee.

Everything is going your way James. Maybe they really are fans of your blog!