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GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
this is why so many people got mad when st louis did it? im not saying they should be sellers at the deadline. Were the blues not buyers as well? this is nothing more than moving a guy because you couldnt work out a deal and dont want to lose him for nothing.

If they flipped kane for a first and then flipped that first for a d-man?

- Sabresfan-365


The Sabres don't have the depth of the Blues. If they trade Kane at the deadline while still in the playoff hunt he will, no doubt, be a main cog in their season, in their 5v5 scoring and someone,if they have hopes for the playoffs, one they would want to play for them in playoffs. Jack who almost had to see a shrink he was so pissed they missed the playoffs would be irked if one of his main linemates was dealt for a Dman. It would make no sense to trade Kane at the deadline if the Sabres were buyers and not sellers at the deadline. They aren't that deep and talented at forward I don't care what people say.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 12:57 PM ET
Evander Kane is black.

Evander Kane is white.

One of these makes all of the bad news bears stories go away.

- BeadyEyedDouche

Let's be honest here

PK Subban got a raw deal in Montreal because he's black

Kane gets criticized because he has done stupid things, and he's black
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
Really? Id say given his production last year thats exactly what he is. any other player produces the way kane did the offers are coming in left and right.
- Sabresfan-365


According to those in know here, calls have been coming in. It's a matter of what is being offered.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:00 PM ET
What would that get you, exactly? A playoff series or 2? It would stall the rebuild as far as draft picks go.
- Larsson_fan


I'm not saying I would do it, but if there is a mandate to win from the owner, that's the kind of move it would take.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:04 PM ET
According to those in know here, calls have been coming in. It's a matter of what is being offered.
- kingcong39



lowball offers though according to homie
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 25 @ 1:07 PM ET
I was on record saying I'd want Tippett or Liljegren at that slot, so what the hell do I know?
Mitzy's highlights sure made him look like a stud, but thats sorta what they're designed to do.

- PrinceChill


I think mitzy was the right pick this year. Sergachev should have been the pick last year
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:09 PM ET
Let's be honest here

PK Subban got a raw deal in Montreal because he's black

Kane gets criticized because he has done stupid things, and he's black

- sbroads24


Patrick Kane is just as big an bumhole, did worse things, paid a sexual assault victim to go away and just because he's white and good, nobody bats an eye.

Evander Kane puts his hands on a woman's shoulders, casually backs her off of him and tells her to leave him alone and all of a sudden he's a locker room cancer, despite being about the only guy on the team who was all over local charities from the second he got here.

PK, absolutely, that was blatant racism/racial bias from a fan base all the way up to management and they're in French-Canada a place that is going to be one of the most prejudiced. There's a reason people think French-Canadians are Richards.

But Evander Kane, I'm not going to say its blatant racism, but it certainly is stereotyping/profiling him because he's black that he's "sexually assaulted women", is a "locker room cancer", "thinks he's the man", etc...

I have no clue why anyone in this fan base wants to trade him at all. You look at the Kings team and half of them are accused rapists and women beaters, yet you NEVER hear about how Drew Doughty paid a woman to go away after he date-raped her.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:09 PM ET
lowball offers though according to homie
- Sabresfan-365


They seem to be between a rock and a hard place with him if they want to trade him then. They might have to try to get creative like Winnipeg did with us by trading us Bogo in a package with something the other team wants. But the Sabres better get something back they want/need too.
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
What would that get you, exactly? A playoff series or 2? It would stall the rebuild as far as draft picks go.
- Larsson_fan


Those two are not going to get Buffalo into the playoffs .....
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:12 PM ET
I'm not saying I would do it, but if there is a mandate to win from the owner, that's the kind of move it would take.
- kingcong39


Oh ..... so we are back in the "win now" mode ?
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:13 PM ET
Patrick Kane is just as big an bumhole, did worse things, paid a sexual assault victim to go away and just because he's white and good, nobody bats an eye.

Evander Kane puts his hands on a woman's shoulders, casually backs her off of him and tells her to leave him alone and all of a sudden he's a locker room cancer, despite being about the only guy on the team who was all over local charities from the second he got here.

PK, absolutely, that was blatant racism/racial bias from a fan base all the way up to management and they're in French-Canada a place that is going to be one of the most prejudiced. There's a reason people think French-Canadians are Richards.

But Evander Kane, I'm not going to say its blatant racism, but it certainly is stereotyping/profiling him because he's black that he's "sexually assaulted women", is a "locker room cancer", "thinks he's the man", etc...

I have no clue why anyone in this fan base wants to trade him at all. You look at the Kings team and half of them are accused rapists and women beaters, yet you NEVER hear about how Drew Doughty paid a woman to go away after he date-raped her.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Good post ............
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:15 PM ET
Patrick Kane is just as big an bumhole, did worse things, paid a sexual assault victim to go away and just because he's white and good, nobody bats an eye.

Evander Kane puts his hands on a woman's shoulders, casually backs her off of him and tells her to leave him alone and all of a sudden he's a locker room cancer, despite being about the only guy on the team who was all over local charities from the second he got here.

PK, absolutely, that was blatant racism/racial bias from a fan base all the way up to management and they're in French-Canada a place that is going to be one of the most prejudiced. There's a reason people think French-Canadians are Richards.

But Evander Kane, I'm not going to say its blatant racism, but it certainly is stereotyping/profiling him because he's black that he's "sexually assaulted women", is a "locker room cancer", "thinks he's the man", etc...

I have no clue why anyone in this fan base wants to trade him at all. You look at the Kings team and half of them are accused rapists and women beaters, yet you NEVER hear about how Drew Doughty paid a woman to go away after he date-raped her.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Because they're not black; they still look like good Canadian boys. The deep disdain for Kane has at its root racism and how he is a bit of a showman on social media which doesn't fit the conservative, white, good Canadian boy mold.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:16 PM ET
I'm not saying I would do it, but if there is a mandate to win from the owner, that's the kind of move it would take.
- kingcong39

You're rebuilding the team with the goal of the Stanley Cup...any wienerhead can slap together a wildcard team that may not make it in consecutive seasons.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:17 PM ET
Another day has passed and I'm feeling even worse about the GMTM firing. Heard the post draft presser wrap up and the questions Hamster and Harrington were asking sounded like they could smell blood in the water. Everything is awesome with this guy. Hopefully he is better at talking with other GM's than he is to reporters, but that is doubtful considering the lackluster weekend. GMTM was like Bill Clinton when it came to that. His brashness was a breath of fresh air. Moulson would be in Vegas right now.

Maybe Botts will get us Anisimov. That would be awesome. Not. Bills TC can't get here soon enough.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:18 PM ET
Good post ............
- fastek

He makes some good points, and racism plays a part in his rep...but why've was he so hated in the Winnipeg locker room? By Buff, no less?
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:18 PM ET
Good post ............
- fastek


I'm really not trying to get into a racial debate but this one is clear as day. He did something that was 10% of the severity of guys like Doughty, Kane, Voynov, Stoll, Heatley, Richards except guess what, they're all white. So thousands of dollars worth of drugs and hookers and beating women and date rape are all fair game, even when you get caught.

But a white chick doesn't like that a black guy hit it and quit it? Nah, I don't like people playin' on my phone.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:19 PM ET
Because they're not black; they still look like good Canadian boys. The deep disdain for Kane has at its root racism and how he is a bit of a showman on social media which doesn't fit the conservative, white, good Canadian boy mold.
- GilPerreault11


Nailed it.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:20 PM ET
Patrick Kane is just as big an bumhole, did worse things, paid a sexual assault victim to go away and just because he's white and good, nobody bats an eye.

Evander Kane puts his hands on a woman's shoulders, casually backs her off of him and tells her to leave him alone and all of a sudden he's a locker room cancer, despite being about the only guy on the team who was all over local charities from the second he got here.

PK, absolutely, that was blatant racism/racial bias from a fan base all the way up to management and they're in French-Canada a place that is going to be one of the most prejudiced. There's a reason people think French-Canadians are Richards.

But Evander Kane, I'm not going to say its blatant racism, but it certainly is stereotyping/profiling him because he's black that he's "sexually assaulted women", is a "locker room cancer", "thinks he's the man", etc...

I have no clue why anyone in this fan base wants to trade him at all. You look at the Kings team and half of them are accused rapists and women beaters, yet you NEVER hear about how Drew Doughty paid a woman to go away after he date-raped her.

- BeadyEyedDouche

Dude, come on. This is getting ridiculous

He was thrown out of the Winnipeg locker room, by another black man in Byfuglien.

Are there "Byfuglien is a cancer rumors?"

Stop absolving Kane of any blame. He's a jackass. Black or white
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:21 PM ET
Another day has passed and I'm feeling even worse about the GMTM firing. Heard the post draft presser wrap up and the questions Hamster and Harrington were asking sounded like they could smell blood in the water. Everything is awesome with this guy. Hopefully he is better at talking with other GM's than he is to reporters, but that is doubtful considering the lackluster weekend. GMTM was like Bill Clinton when it came to that. His brashness was a breath of fresh air. Moulson would be in Vegas right now.

Maybe Botts will get us Anisimov. That would be awesome. Not. Bills TC can't get here soon enough.

- Hatboro_Swords


There are always those in society who hate change and can't let go. I liked TM but damn, GMJB has been GM for 6 weeks and there were few trades made yesterday. Patience is a virtue.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:29 PM ET
He makes some good points, and racism plays a part in his rep...but why've was he so hated in the Winnipeg locker room? By Buff, no less?
- Larsson_fan


Chalk it up to young, dumb, full of you know what.

We traded FOR him when he was 24. Almost every single person I have met under the age of 24 is a (frank)ing douche-bag, including myself at that age. Two blacks guys in a predominantly white sport, well we can't have more than one token, right?

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:30 PM ET
Patrick Kane is just as big an bumhole, did worse things, paid a sexual assault victim to go away and just because he's white and good, nobody bats an eye.

Evander Kane puts his hands on a woman's shoulders, casually backs her off of him and tells her to leave him alone and all of a sudden he's a locker room cancer, despite being about the only guy on the team who was all over local charities from the second he got here.

PK, absolutely, that was blatant racism/racial bias from a fan base all the way up to management and they're in French-Canada a place that is going to be one of the most prejudiced. There's a reason people think French-Canadians are Richards.

But Evander Kane, I'm not going to say its blatant racism, but it certainly is stereotyping/profiling him because he's black that he's "sexually assaulted women", is a "locker room cancer", "thinks he's the man", etc...

I have no clue why anyone in this fan base wants to trade him at all. You look at the Kings team and half of them are accused rapists and women beaters, yet you NEVER hear about how Drew Doughty paid a woman to go away after he date-raped her.

- BeadyEyedDouche

I'll take PK any day, week, month or year on this team.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:37 PM ET
I'm really not trying to get into a racial debate but this one is clear as day. He did something that was 10% of the severity of guys like Doughty, Kane, Voynov, Stoll, Heatley, Richards except guess what, they're all white. So thousands of dollars worth of drugs and hookers and beating women and date rape are all fair game, even when you get caught.

But a white chick doesn't like that a black guy hit it and quit it? Nah, I don't like people playin' on my phone.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Yep, hockey is a racist sport and some of the most racist countries are homogenous like Eastern European like Russia and Nordic like Sweden and Finland; Canada and the US within the Hockey mom and dad's bubble are homogenous as well. I used to teach Engish to Polish immigrants and never heard such blatant racism and I'm going to guess neighbor Russia is similar in their beliefs.

Anyway, I'm sure Kane is no saint but neither are many other players in those locker rooms they just have less melanin.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:37 PM ET
I'll take PK any day, week, month or year on this team.
- SABRES 89

Anyone should.

Within a year David Poile was able to get a #1 D man and #1 center.

That's a helluva job
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:37 PM ET
Dude, come on. This is getting ridiculous

He was thrown out of the Winnipeg locker room, by another black man in Byfuglien.

Are there "Byfuglien is a cancer rumors?"

Stop absolving Kane of any blame. He's a jackass. Black or white

- sbroads24


Byfuglien comes from a small, 97% white border town of 2,000 people in north Minnesota. He is what white people want blacks men to be. Soft-spoken, educated, complacent and unaccepting of your own kind, raised in small-town America by white people.

Kane come from a family of jocks and athletes, in a predominantly more diverse area (Vancouver) which is basically the LA of Canada, got a huge contract at a young age and acted just like any other stupid 21 year old kid who got a huge pay day but still has a black identity.

There are a lot of subtle narratives between the two.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:38 PM ET
I'll take PK any day, week, month or year on this team.
- SABRES 89


I think we all would.
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