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hawk33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Get off my lawn
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:01 AM ET
You clearly don't pay attention to players and what they bring.

We stole Beaulieu from the Habs for a 3rd. He's a top 4 defenseman that is still improving. A former first rounder. He's 24 BTW.

Without the generational talent? I guess Eichel is a nobody...

- Jammerz04

I think you are severely overrating Eichel.

Beaulieu is not a top 4 D-man, give me a break.

Nothing Botterill can do, Murray squandered our assets on O'Reilly, Kane and Lehner.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 26 @ 9:06 AM ET
I think you are severely overrating Eichel.

Beaulieu is not a top 4 D-man, give me a break.

Nothing Botterill can do, Murray squandered our assets on O'Reilly, Kane and Lehner.

- hawk33



He was a point per game player this year. How much better could he be? Defensively, not elite, but I believe that can get better
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:07 AM ET
He was a point per game player this year. How much better could he be? Defensively, not elite, but I believe that can get better
- jcragcrumple


We should just forfeit the season, obviously no reason to play considering the Sabres will only win about 17.13561 games this year.
#AdvancedStats
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:12 AM ET
I think you are severely overrating Eichel.

Beaulieu is not a top 4 D-man, give me a break.

Nothing Botterill can do, Murray squandered our assets on O'Reilly, Kane and Lehner.

- hawk33


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:13 AM ET
Everyone stinks

Trade everyone

Draft no one

This team stinks. This town stinks. This state stinks. This country stinks.

I don't want to live on this planet anymore. (frank) this place and (frank) you too.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 26 @ 9:14 AM ET
I think you are severely overrating Eichel.

Beaulieu is not a top 4 D-man, give me a break.

Nothing Botterill can do, Murray squandered our assets on O'Reilly, Kane and Lehner.

- hawk33


He is on this team as it stands
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:15 AM ET
Curious. Would people rather see Murray style trades or Botterill style patience?
- TheSabresTaco

I am fine with patience as long as there is a long term and short term plan


I never really heard Murray mention success in Rochester, so my guess is we are better off right now for the present, and the future
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:16 AM ET
He was a point per game player this year. How much better could he be? Defensively, not elite, but I believe that can get better
- jcragcrumple


You must have not understood him.

There is NOTHING Botterill can do. NOTHING
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 26 @ 9:16 AM ET
Curious. Would people rather see Murray style trades or Botterill style patience?
- TheSabresTaco


Murray was definitely fun but it didn't make us any better, maybe we would be here today with no first and second rounder next year, but Hamonic on the roster.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:18 AM ET
I think you are severely overrating Eichel.

Beaulieu is not a top 4 D-man, give me a break.

Nothing Botterill can do, Murray squandered our assets on O'Reilly, Kane and Lehner.

- hawk33

http://www.espn.com/nhl/t...s/_/name/mtl/seasontype/2

Beaulieu was logging 19 plus minutes for the first place team in our division

24 points

+8


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:19 AM ET
I am fine with patience as long as there is a long term and short term plan


I never really heard Murray mention success in Rochester, so my guess is we are better off right now for the present, and the future

- homiedclown


He did actually mention it, especially 2016 offseason, he was very interested in improving Rochester. Whether that takes time or the proper moves were not made can be debated, he failed in this tenure to improve that team. I'm certainly glad they'll be getting the attention they need by this staff.

Every presser Bots does, he basically lays out his plan to the public on how this organization is going to be run. Very methodically. Personally, as much as I liked Murray the person, it seems we have someone much more suited for the job.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:20 AM ET
Murray was definitely fun but it didn't make us any better, maybe we would be here today with no first and second rounder next year, but Hamonic on the roster.
- mattmoulson


And then the female doging continues. So, how does one win? Make savvy trades.

Beaulieu, a former 1st, for a 3rd, which is 3-4 years away, if he makes it to the NHL.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:21 AM ET
He did actually mention it, especially 2016 offseason, he was very interested in improving Rochester. .
- TheSabresTaco



he failed


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:21 AM ET
http://www.espn.com/nhl/team/stats/_/name/mtl/seasontype/2

Beaulieu was logging 19 plus minutes for the first place team in our division

24 points

+8

- homiedclown


You must have not understood him.

HE'S NOT A TOP 4 DEFENSEMAN
hawk33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Get off my lawn
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:21 AM ET
http://www.espn.com/nhl/team/stats/_/name/mtl/seasontype/2

Beaulieu was logging 19 plus minutes for the first place team in our division

24 points

+8

- homiedclown


I lived in Montreal for years. I can not find one friend who doesn't say that we got ripped off by giving up a 3rd. A lot have said that they would have given us a 3rd to take him, he was that bad on and off the ice.

But whatever, keep supporting this garbage franchise. Enjoy your new magic beans.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:24 AM ET


he failed

- homiedclown


Miserably. Christ, COR, the (frank)ing captain, wanted nothing to do with the team.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:26 AM ET
You must have not understood him.

HE'S NOT A TOP 4 DEFENSEMAN

- TheSabresTaco

hamonic 14 points
20 minutes per game
-21


beaulieu, 28 points
1 minute per game less ice time than hamonic
+8


one costs a first and 2 second rd picks

one costs a 3rd


one turns 27 in a few weeks
one still has a few years before he hits his stride


jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 26 @ 9:26 AM ET
I lived in Montreal for years. I can not find one friend who doesn't say that we got ripped off by giving up a 3rd. A lot have said that they would have given us a 3rd to take him, he was that bad on and off the ice.

But whatever, keep supporting this garbage franchise. Enjoy your new magic beans.

- hawk33



The Montreal forum on here seems to have been made up of mostly the opposite mindset. Pittsburgh is nearby and they'll be going for the 3peat next year. I'm sure they could take in one more new fan
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:28 AM ET
hamonic 14 points
20 minutes per game
-21


beaulieu, 28 points
1 minute per game less ice time than hamonic
+8


one costs a first and 2 second rd picks

one costs a 3rd


one turns 27 in a few weeks
one still has a few years before he hits his stride

- homiedclown


Hamonic's golf score is better.

Beaulieu is at best an ECHL defenseman like EIkal.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:28 AM ET
The Montreal forum on here seems to have been made up of mostly the opposite mindset. Pittsburgh is nearby and they'll be going for the 3peat next year. I'm sure they could take in one more new fan
- jcragcrumple

this is a good post
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:28 AM ET
I lived in Montreal for years. I can not find one friend who doesn't say that we got ripped off by giving up a 3rd. A lot have said that they would have given us a 3rd to take him, he was that bad on and off the ice.

But whatever, keep supporting this garbage franchise. Enjoy your new magic beans.

- hawk33


Perhaps you need new friends. Red comments here:
https://www.habseyesonthe...s-trade-rumours-canadiens


~Holy absolute hell, that’s a terrible terrible trade. His numbers blow away anything barring a miracle third round choice. But yup let’s keep Benn over a young top 4. Absolutely joke.

~Dwight King was acquired for a 4th round pick. How on earth is NB only worth more than King by drafting a round earlier? Plus the pick that we gave up for King was in 2018 which should be a better draft class. If NB was going to get traded, MB could have got have got a prospect or some better picks. With the way the Habs have developed players, it’s a long shot to think that the third round draft pick will develop into an NHL player, let alone an NHL defenseman who can put up 28 points like Bro did.

~I’m not so upset he got moved, but the value was seriously lacking. Just an absolutely brutal trade.

~Bergevin does a good thing in drouin
Then poops all over it with this garbage.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:31 AM ET
Can't wait till this off season is over, the bridge jumpers here are old, just jump already....

Now the new guy is worthless off the ice too, Give me a frigging break
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 26 @ 9:31 AM ET
Curious. Would people rather see Murray style trades or Botterill style patience?
- TheSabresTaco

It is what it is.. Most likely going to be a lottery team next year

I guess he's not going to make that many moves so he can get rid of those contracts next year
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 26 @ 9:32 AM ET
Does he have an NMC? Is he just seeing if it's a fit?
- jcragcrumple



I was thinking the same thing, but he's going to be highly motivated this year. Might be a good 1 year deal if the Rangers take some salary off of us.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:33 AM ET
It is what it is.. Most likely going to be a lottery team next year

I guess he's not going to make that many moves so he can get rid of those contracts next year

- GERBE!!!75PTS


If I was trying to trade you Bogo and Moulson, what would you want from me?
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