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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:47 AM ET
Just saw an interesting one on CapFriendly...


BUF gets:
Landeskog
Compher (my kind of trade)

COL gets:
Samson
Bailey (Or perhaps Nylander)
Conditional 2018 1st (if in top 10 it can be pushed to 2019 and be unprotected)

Landy - Eichel - Nylander/Bailey
Kane(resigned 4x5.75) - ROR - Okposo
Zemgus - Compher - Ennis
Fasching - Larsson - Foligno

Risto - Del Zotto (4x4.75)
Beaulieu - McCabe
Antipin - Bogo

(Moulson bought out)

Not gonna lie.... I'd do that trade. I don't think COL would but it doesn't seem horribly off. BUF would have 5.75M in cap space.

- JVince11


Hard, hard pass. MDZ on the 1st line. Jesus Christ.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:49 AM ET
That's what I would offer him, but maybe you're right and other teams would value him more highly. He's going to be 39 this year and I don't see him scoring 35 points again. If he thinks he can and another team thinks he can, then I would let him walk. New blood and/Or seeing what the kids can do is more important to me than seeing if Gionta can hit 35 points again. As for his respect level and leadership, I would say that he failed. From various reports, the location was a mess and it's a captain's job to either help fix it, or at the very least, keep it out of the media
- jcragcrumple


Brian Gionta is a very well respected NHL player. That's regardless of the teams off ice issues.

It's certainly up for debate whether he deserves captaincy. But he's a quality leader and a quality person.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:50 AM ET
Hard, hard pass. MDZ on the 1st line. Jesus Christ.
- TheSabresTaco


At least it wasn't Shatts for 7m or whatever his ask is.

Didn't like the Landeskog trade?
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:51 AM ET
Just saw an interesting one on CapFriendly...


BUF gets:
Landeskog
Compher (my kind of trade)

COL gets:
Samson
Bailey (Or perhaps Nylander)
Conditional 2018 1st (if in top 10 it can be pushed to 2019 and be unprotected)

Landy - Eichel - Nylander/Bailey
Kane(resigned 4x5.75) - ROR - Okposo
Zemgus - Compher - Ennis
Fasching - Larsson - Foligno

Risto - Del Zotto (4x4.75)
Beaulieu - McCabe
Antipin - Bogo

(Moulson bought out)

Not gonna lie.... I'd do that trade. I don't think COL would but it doesn't seem horribly off. BUF would have 5.75M in cap space.

- JVince11


If it's Bailey sign me up.....
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:54 AM ET
Hard, hard pass. MDZ on the 1st line. Jesus Christ.
- TheSabresTaco



This
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:56 AM ET
At least it wasn't Shatts for 7m or whatever his ask is.

Didn't like the Landeskog trade?

- JVince11


I don't agree with 7Mill Shat either.

I like Landeskog but I don't value him like I do Reinhart. I think if Kane was removed, I would look into it.

Landeskog brings leadership and a golden boy version of Kane. With the same offensive upside. Rather have Kane and Reinhart than Landy and Kane. (Or just Landy)

Then, a 1st and a top prospect for Compher? Cripes. I like Compher but come on.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 28 @ 11:01 AM ET
Brian Gionta is a very well respected NHL player. That's regardless of the teams off ice issues.

It's certainly up for debate whether he deserves captaincy. But he's a quality leader and a quality person.

- TheSabresTaco


Fiest and foremost, im not disparaging his character. I habe no doubt hes a quality person. As for leadership, By most accounts, he couldn't bridge the divide between vets and young guys. There should be no doubt that he isnt captain next year. Many thanks for the past 3 years, but time to move on
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
As I'm getting older I realize men have a finite number of those available to them in a life time.

In other words, don't waste them on things like sports.

- gcomella34


Disagree.

Its more like the number of beers you can drink at your buddy's camp on a hunting weekend. There is absolutely no limit other than what you can handle, at least until the end of the weekend. Then, its over Johnny.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
Fiest and foremost, im not disparaging his character. I habe no doubt hes a quality person. As for leadership, By most accounts, he couldn't bridge the divide between vets and young guys. There should be no doubt that he isnt captain next year. Many thanks for the past 3 years, but time to move on
- jcragcrumple


Nothing wrong with not wanting him here.

My only issue is that if he is here, expect him to be on the Sabres the entire season.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:19 AM ET
To me, this McDavid contract shows that salaries are artificially low. If teams are willing to pay McDavid 13, then mid tier guys should be making more too. I think the NHLPA must be pissed when they hear he's making more than Kane, Crosby and OV without the cap going up
- jcragcrumple


In his second year in the league, he had the most points. His rookie year he would have been up there if not injured. He is worth what those guys make for sure.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:19 AM ET
Anyone interested in Yakupov on a short-term show me deal? Something about a line with Eichel, Yak, and Kane that intrigues me.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 28 @ 11:19 AM ET
Anyone interested in Yakupov on a short-term show me deal? Something about a line with Eichel, Yak, and Kane that intrigues me.
- Pierceme69

Nope
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 28 @ 11:34 AM ET
In his second year in the league, he had the most points. His rookie year he would have been up there if not injured. He is worth what those guys make for sure.
- Lilroot9


I didn't really articulate that well. The NHLPA vets must be pissed bc they'll get priced out or take pay cuts bc the young guys take up a bigger slice of the same sized pie
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:41 AM ET
I didn't really articulate that well. The NHLPA vets must be pissed bc they'll get priced out or take pay cuts bc the young guys take up a bigger slice of the same sized pie
- jcragcrumple


Yes I agree, but supply and demand. If Oilers dont offer that, McDavid can wait and someone will next year for sure.

How many other guys can say that? Just going to pick a couple. Mackinnon, Ekblad, Matthews, Nugent-Hopkins, Hall, Tavares, Stamkos, P Kane, Erik Johnson, Crosby, Ovechkin. How many of those guys would get $13 mil if in same place as McDavid (going RFA)? I say Crosby, but not any other. (those are 1st overall picks)

So being the best player in league in your second season is very rare and any team would pay for McDavid.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
Yes I agree, but supply and demand. If Oilers dont offer that, McDavid can wait and someone will next year for sure.

How many other guys can say that? Just going to pick a couple. Mackinnon, Ekblad, Matthews, Nugent-Hopkins, Hall, Tavares, Stamkos, P Kane, Erik Johnson, Crosby, Ovechkin. How many of those guys would get $13 mil if in same place as McDavid (going RFA)? I say Crosby, but not any other. (those are 1st overall picks)

So being the best player in league in your second season is very rare and any team would pay for McDavid.

- Lilroot9


When Kane got 100 points, it earned him 10 mil a year, and now 100 points is worth 13 mil, so there is clearly more value placed on the points, but no cap escalation. It's not really a surprise to me that their revenues are stagnant when they don't care to put the best product available on the ice
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