I miss Tim Murray
- Matthews_Auston

Crazy as it sounds, he may have been the most exciting GM in Buffalo sports history

Crazy as it sounds, he may have been the most exciting GM in Buffalo sports history
- MCGUIZZY

Tom Donahoe pulled in quite the haul of names as well.

Hey man those are fighting words .....
- Matthews_Auston

HE IS ONE OF US

Buf39 was right damn

I've been saying this since the deal was made.

Wrong time.

People act like ROR was a once and a lifetime get

Top 6 forwards are available all the time, and we would have had the assets to get one when the time was right
- sbroads24

Who were the team's centers pre-90 getting traded here? It was a hugely important trade. He's an excellent player who has played on terrible teams.

Buf39 was right damn
- GERBE!!!75PTS

About?

Who were the team's centers pre-90 getting traded here? It was a hugely important trade. He's an excellent player who has played on terrible teams.
- PassionBucket16

Agreed, great trade that made sense at time, and still does.

About?
- Slump Buster

Ochotanko re-signing here

Who were the team's centers pre-90 getting traded here? It was a hugely important trade. He's an excellent player who has played on terrible teams.
- PassionBucket16

Eichel, and that's all that mattered and still matters today.

Agreed, great trade that made sense at time, and still does.
- sabreswarpath

It made sense if we were close to winning anything.

If we miss the playoffs we will have effectively wasted 3 years of a guys prime who we traded a ton of assets to get.

Makes 0 sense to me

It made sense if we were close to winning anything.

If we miss the playoffs we will have effectively wasted 3 years of a guys prime who we traded a ton of assets to get.

Makes 0 sense to me
- sbroads24

Hindsight.

Eichel, and that's all that mattered and still matters today.
- sbroads24

Eichel and O'Reilly joined the team on the same day. I was looking for answers like Girgensons, Connolly, Hodgson, Roy.

Buf39 was right damn
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Not yet....

About?
- Slump Buster

Chad Johnson he said it last night

Eichel and O'Reilly joined the team on the same day. I was looking for answers like Girgensons, Connolly, Hodgson, Roy.
- PassionBucket16

Let me ask you this.

What would you rather have

O'Reilly +Nylander

or

50% chance at Matthews or Laine + any other top 6 center that has been available since?

Let me ask you this.

What would you rather have

O'Reilly +Nylander

or

50% chance at Matthews or Laine + any other top 6 center that has been available since?
- sbroads24

First of all, you're making an assumption that the team would have been so much worse without RoR that they would have finished at the bottom of the standings. Secondly, last year they started that stupid lottery system where the top-3 picks were drawn for. Toronto lucked out and stayed at #1, but that's a lot less than a 50% proposition. Long story short, I'd take RoR and Nylander. If this was the NFL and you were guaranteed to pick 1st with the worst record we would have mcDavid right now and none of this chatter even matters.

First of all, you're making an assumption that the team would have been so much worse without RoR that they would have finished at the bottom of the standings. Secondly, last year they started that stupid lottery system where the top-3 picks were drawn for. Toronto lucked out and stayed at #1, but that's a lot less than a 50% proposition. Long story short, I'd take RoR and Nylander. If this was the NFL and you were guaranteed to pick 1st with the worst record we would have mcDavid right now and none of this chatter even matters.
- Pierceme69

We more than likely would have.

This wasn't 2015, we were only 12 points from the bottom. and even less than that from bottom 3.

I'd take the chance at getting one of those difference makers all day over ROR.

Hell, I'd take Tkachuk over him

EK's chart, Kovalchuck 30% to the Sabres just makes me laugh.

Let me ask you this.

What would you rather have

O'Reilly +Nylander

or

50% chance at Matthews or Laine + any other top 6 center that has been available since?
- sbroads24

That laughable, were do you get 50% from, you have no idea what our chances would have been to get them, and what place we would finish in.

Here is what I want... to concentrate on what we have, not some stupid what could have been if we did not trade so and so.

We more than likely would have.

This wasn't 2015, we were only 12 points from the bottom. and even less than that from bottom 3.

I'd take the chance at getting one of those difference makers all day over ROR.

Hell, I'd take Tkachuk over him
- sbroads24

For a guy thats so analytical about certain things, this pure speculation is unlike you.

That laughable, were do you get 50% from, you have no idea what our chances would have been to get them, and what place we would finish in.

Here is what I want... to concentrate on what we have, not some stupid what could have been if we did not trade so and so.
- sabreswarpath

We would have been a bottom 5 team, there was 2 impact players, both went to bottom 5 teams.

So, I apologize, 40% chance

For a rumor site Ek really fell down on the job today. The biggest pre-UFA rumor and neither he, the Oilers blogger, nor even Tanner wrote about the massive McDavid contract.

I think part of the issue was compared to most rebuilds the tear down here was way bigger.

for example as much credit as i give new leafs mgmt, they were fortunate that the left over pieces from the previous era while complimentary were far better than the ones we had.

They didn't/don't have to make an ROR trade because kadri was already there.

They didnt have to make a kane deal and find a d-man to go with it because they already had JVR and Gardiner (we had stafford and myers).
- Sabresfan-365

And they somehow found a sucker for all their terrible contracts except Horton and Lupul, but they're LTIR, so that's only half bad. And they buried the others for a short while. And a poop load of young guys.

That laughable, were do you get 50% from, you have no idea what our chances would have been to get them, and what place we would finish in.

Here is what I want... to concentrate on what we have, not some stupid what could have been if we did not trade so and so.
- sabreswarpath

Well since we know the results of the lottery last year we know that if Buffalo came in last they would have gotten Matthews. I know Winnipeg moved up into #2 spot from #6 from what I remember. And Columbus fell from #2 to #3.

For a guy thats so analytical about certain things, this pure speculation is unlike you.


- sabreswarpath

No this is exactly like him. He always does this. He's still whining about the Kane trade as well. Every person in here was sick of Darcy and his lack of initiative in making trades, and then we got GMTM and since they couldn't gripe about that anymore it turned into constantly rehashing trades.