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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 28 @ 7:41 PM ET
I would look forward to JB saying that Weal is real good.
- dbot

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 28 @ 7:41 PM ET
Maybe so but Habs need D & Sven adds scoring.
2 cheap contracts for Galch who wants a huge raise.
Hutton/Sven r more cap friendly

- Nighthawk

That's fair. Hutton is poop at D, pretty sure they will do their homework and realize that before thinking about that offer. They also have no shortage of wingers, need C and D. They will ask for Tanev/Edler or go elsewhere
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 28 @ 7:42 PM ET
Vegas can't trade Sbisa to Canucks this year
- VANTEL

Incorrect. After July 1st, they can trade back players. MTL is talking to them about Emelin apparently.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 28 @ 7:44 PM ET
Vegas can't trade Sbisa to Canucks this year
- VANTEL


Yes they can
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 28 @ 7:46 PM ET
Sbisa and a 6th for a 7th. Cap dump for Vegas.
- manvanfan


They probably will just waive him then give up a draft position.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 28 @ 7:47 PM ET
Incorrect. After July 1st, they can trade back players. MTL is talking to them about Emelin apparently.
- neem55



Rules
The initial proposal for rules for the draft were decided upon by the NHL in March 2016.[5] They allow each team to either protect seven forwards, three defencemen, and one goaltender or, one goaltender and eight skaters regardless of position. Because the NHL wants to ensure the competitive viability of any new teams, the number of protected players allowed are lower than in the 2000 NHL Expansion Draft which populated the Minnesota Wild and Columbus Blue Jackets, when each team could protect nine forwards, five defencemen, and one goalie, or two goalies, three defencemen, and seven forwards. Under these rules, each of the 30 teams would lose one top-four defencemen or third-line forward per number of new teams.[5] Only players with more than two years of professional experience — NHL or AHL as defined in the collective bargaining agreement — will be included in the draft.[6]

Teams must submit their list of protected players by June 17, 2017, and they must expose at least two forwards and one defenceman that have played at least 40 games in the 2016–17 season or more than 70 games in the 2015–16 and 2016–17 seasons combined and must still be contracted for the 2017–18 season. The exposed goaltender must either be under contract for the 2017–18 season or will become a Restricted free agent in 2017. At least twenty of the thirty players selected by Vegas must be under contract for the 2017–18 season, and they will be required to select a minimum of fourteen forwards, nine defencemen and three goaltenders.[7] Vegas will be granted a 48-hour window prior to the draft to sign any pending free agent (RFA or UFA, one per team) that was left unprotected. If a team loses a player to Vegas during this signing window they will not have a player selected from their roster during this draft.[8]

Teams will be required to protect any contracted players with no move clauses (NMCs) with one of the team's slots for protected players, unless the contract expires on July 1, 2017, in which case the NMC would be considered void for the draft.[9][10] Players whose NMCs have limited no trade clauses must still be protected, and any players with NMCs would be able to waive the clause and become eligible for the expansion draft.[9]

Any players picked by Vegas cannot be traded back to their former team before January 1, 2018, and any player picked in the expansion draft cannot have their contracts bought out until after the completion of the 2017–18 season. These rules were imposed to prevent existing teams coming to deals with the expansion team to take on sub-optimal contracts for their mutual benefit. The expansion team is guaranteed the same odds in the draft lottery as third lowest finishing team from the 2016–17 NHL season for the 2017 NHL Entry Draft; after their first season the team will be subject to same draft lottery rules as the other teams in the league. The NHL's deputy commissioner, Bill Daly, said that teams that do not follow the expansion draft rules would face penalties, including possibly the "loss of draft picks and/or players."[9]
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 28 @ 7:47 PM ET
That's fair. Hutton is poop at D, pretty sure they will do their homework and realize that before thinking about that offer. They also have no shortage of wingers, need C and D. They will ask for Tanev/Edler or go elsewhere
- neem55



So was Nemestnikov.
Much is about the Habs unloading Galch for value & cap space.
IMO MB is not a good GM.
Inherited Price & tbh they r mired in quicksand with him at the helm.
The penchant for francophones is silly but idc if they demand it.
Let them put up roadblocks for all i care lol
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 28 @ 7:48 PM ET
Linden on Weal/Gagner visits: I think both would be good pieces that..would give us depth so we wouldn't have to push young kids into lineup



http://ckstam.streamon.fm/listen-pl-1074?smc=10

- neem55

Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Jun 28 @ 7:49 PM ET
Not sure I am down with losing two 1st round picks, one 2nd round pick, and one 3rd round pick for that, plus a 8 mill cap hit.
- Codes1087


Agreed! We are a rebuilding team. As appealing as LD is, not worth the pick potential...for Van anyway
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 28 @ 7:51 PM ET
What about McCann/Virtanen?
- Nucker101

what about them?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 28 @ 7:51 PM ET
Rules
The initial proposal for rules for the draft were decided upon by the NHL in March 2016.

- VANTEL[5] They allow each team to either protect seven forwards, three defencemen, and one goaltender or, one goaltender and eight skaters regardless of position. Because the NHL wants to ensure the competitive viability of any new teams, the number of protected players allowed are lower than in the 2000 NHL Expansion Draft which populated the Minnesota Wild and Columbus Blue Jackets, when each team could protect nine forwards, five defencemen, and one goalie, or two goalies, three defencemen, and seven forwards. Under these rules, each of the 30 teams would lose one top-four defencemen or third-line forward per number of new teams.[5] Only players with more than two years of professional experience — NHL or AHL as defined in the collective bargaining agreement — will be included in the draft.[6]

Teams must submit their list of protected players by June 17, 2017, and they must expose at least two forwards and one defenceman that have played at least 40 games in the 2016–17 season or more than 70 games in the 2015–16 and 2016–17 seasons combined and must still be contracted for the 2017–18 season. The exposed goaltender must either be under contract for the 2017–18 season or will become a Restricted free agent in 2017. At least twenty of the thirty players selected by Vegas must be under contract for the 2017–18 season, and they will be required to select a minimum of fourteen forwards, nine defencemen and three goaltenders.[7] Vegas will be granted a 48-hour window prior to the draft to sign any pending free agent (RFA or UFA, one per team) that was left unprotected. If a team loses a player to Vegas during this signing window they will not have a player selected from their roster during this draft.[8]

Teams will be required to protect any contracted players with no move clauses (NMCs) with one of the team's slots for protected players, unless the contract expires on July 1, 2017, in which case the NMC would be considered void for the draft.[9][10] Players whose NMCs have limited no trade clauses must still be protected, and any players with NMCs would be able to waive the clause and become eligible for the expansion draft.[9]

Any players picked by Vegas cannot be traded back to their former team before January 1, 2018, and any player picked in the expansion draft cannot have their contracts bought out until after the completion of the 2017–18 season. These rules were imposed to prevent existing teams coming to deals with the expansion team to take on sub-optimal contracts for their mutual benefit. The expansion team is guaranteed the same odds in the draft lottery as third lowest finishing team from the 2016–17 NHL season for the 2017 NHL Entry Draft; after their first season the team will be subject to same draft lottery rules as the other teams in the league. The NHL's deputy commissioner, Bill Daly, said that teams that do not follow the expansion draft rules would face penalties, including possibly the "loss of draft picks and/or players."[9]


http://thecomeback.com/nh...lost-expansion-draft.html
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 28 @ 7:51 PM ET
Equality & hiring the best available in La Belle province is tabernac
They can have their silly biases & let it continue to hurt their chances.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 28 @ 7:53 PM ET
what about them?
- CanuckDon

you think they were well liked in the locker room? A cocky coupe of young kids, including one who loves to party?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 28 @ 7:54 PM ET
Agreed! We are a rebuilding team. As appealing as LD is, not worth the pick potential...for Van anyway
- Kaynine



Calgary were a rebuilding team that traded a first and two seconds for Hamilton and did the same for Hamonic o speed up their rebuild.

Calgary may have the best D in the league this year and a dynamic forward group also . Too bad about the goal tending but they are speeding up the process
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 28 @ 7:55 PM ET
Calgary were a rebuilding team that traded a first and two seconds for Hamilton and did the same for Hamonic o speed up their rebuild.

Calgary may have the best D in the league this year and a dynamic forward group also . Too bad about the goal tending but they are speeding up the process

- VANTEL



No proof yet that worked.
All that has happened is make the PO's.
Far far away from contending.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 28 @ 7:55 PM ET
Rules
The initial proposal for rules for the draft were decided upon by the NHL in March 2016.

- VANTEL[5] They allow each team to either protect seven forwards, three defencemen, and one goaltender or, one goaltender and eight skaters regardless of position. Because the NHL wants to ensure the competitive viability of any new teams, the number of protected players allowed are lower than in the 2000 NHL Expansion Draft which populated the Minnesota Wild and Columbus Blue Jackets, when each team could protect nine forwards, five defencemen, and one goalie, or two goalies, three defencemen, and seven forwards. Under these rules, each of the 30 teams would lose one top-four defencemen or third-line forward per number of new teams.[5] Only players with more than two years of professional experience — NHL or AHL as defined in the collective bargaining agreement — will be included in the draft.[6]

Teams must submit their list of protected players by June 17, 2017, and they must expose at least two forwards and one defenceman that have played at least 40 games in the 2016–17 season or more than 70 games in the 2015–16 and 2016–17 seasons combined and must still be contracted for the 2017–18 season. The exposed goaltender must either be under contract for the 2017–18 season or will become a Restricted free agent in 2017. At least twenty of the thirty players selected by Vegas must be under contract for the 2017–18 season, and they will be required to select a minimum of fourteen forwards, nine defencemen and three goaltenders.[7] Vegas will be granted a 48-hour window prior to the draft to sign any pending free agent (RFA or UFA, one per team) that was left unprotected. If a team loses a player to Vegas during this signing window they will not have a player selected from their roster during this draft.[8]

Teams will be required to protect any contracted players with no move clauses (NMCs) with one of the team's slots for protected players, unless the contract expires on July 1, 2017, in which case the NMC would be considered void for the draft.[9][10] Players whose NMCs have limited no trade clauses must still be protected, and any players with NMCs would be able to waive the clause and become eligible for the expansion draft.[9]

Any players picked by Vegas cannot be traded back to their former team before January 1, 2018, and any player picked in the expansion draft cannot have their contracts bought out until after the completion of the 2017–18 season. These rules were imposed to prevent existing teams coming to deals with the expansion team to take on sub-optimal contracts for their mutual benefit. The expansion team is guaranteed the same odds in the draft lottery as third lowest finishing team from the 2016–17 NHL season for the 2017 NHL Entry Draft; after their first season the team will be subject to same draft lottery rules as the other teams in the league. The NHL's deputy commissioner, Bill Daly, said that teams that do not follow the expansion draft rules would face penalties, including possibly the "loss of draft picks and/or players."[9]


It looks that way on what you've cut and pasted, but Lebrun reported MTl is trying to get back Emilin and TSN that OTT was trying to get back Methot http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vid...thescore.com/news/1325242

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 28 @ 7:55 PM ET
http://thecomeback.com/nhl/nhl-clarifies-teams-can-trade-players-lost-expansion-draft.html
- Redmile247


Read the last line . They can come back after Jan 1 2018. My comment was they can not come back this year . Jan first 2018 is next year
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 28 @ 7:57 PM ET
It looks that way on what you've cut and pasted, but Lebrun reported MTl is trying to get back Emilin and TSN that OTT was trying to get back Methot http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vid...thescore.com/news/1325242
- neem55



This is not Lebrun , this is Wikipedia expansion draft
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 28 @ 7:57 PM ET
you think they were well liked in the locker room? A cocky coupe of young kids, including one who loves to party?
- Nucker101


Sedins watched all their country club buddies leave ...and they are replaced by a bunch of kids ...Sedins get mad ...Benning says to them it's just part of the "cycle"....Daniel turns to him and says "really funny Jim ..."
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 28 @ 7:58 PM ET
This is not Lebrun , this is Wikipedia expansion draft
- VANTEL

Lebrun was on twitter

I gave a link for the Methot story
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vid...-acquiring-methot~1155882
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Jun 28 @ 7:59 PM ET
Calgary were a rebuilding team that traded a first and two seconds for Hamilton and did the same for Hamonic o speed up their rebuild.

Calgary may have the best D in the league this year and a dynamic forward group also . Too bad about the goal tending but they are speeding up the process

- VANTEL


Would you trade 2-1st and 4-2nd for Hamilton and Hamonic?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 28 @ 7:59 PM ET
Lebrun was on twitter

I gave a link for the Methot story
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vid...-acquiring-methot~1155882

- neem55



TBH even if Sbisa can be traded back in 2017 Canucks should be aiming higher.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 28 @ 8:00 PM ET
Sedins watched all their country club buddies leave ...and they are replaced by a bunch of kids ...Sedins get mad ...Benning says to them it's just part of the "cycle"....Daniel turns to him and says "really funny Jim ..."
- Redmile247



Kesler was in this so-called country club?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 28 @ 8:01 PM ET
Would you trade 2-1st and 4-2nd for Hamilton and Hamonic?
- Kaynine



Yesterday if any clue on how to draft yes
Since not contending its a no brainer for me
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 28 @ 8:01 PM ET
Would you trade 2-1st and 4-2nd for Hamilton and Hamonic?
- Kaynine


I would have for Hamilton
I would not for Hamonic
I would for Draisitl.
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