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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 3:17 PM ET
There's no reports. Just because he was on "The Instigators" and didn't poop on Buffalo doesn't mean he wants to come back.
- PassionBucket16

If he pissed on Buffalo does that mean Connolly will come back?
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:19 PM ET
Chris Nichols‏
@NicholsOnHockey
Friedman on Shattenkirk: "I think Buffalo has made a big play for him." #Sabres CHED

Get ready, we abouts to makes some moves

- sbroads24


I said this yesterday but if Eichel and Reinhart combined cost 14 million in 18-19, then that season we will have 50 million tied into 8 players:

Eichel (9), Reinhart (5), Okposo (6), Ristolainen (5.5), Bogosian (5.2), Moulson (5), Ennis (4.8), O'Reilly (7.5).

Shattenkirk at 6 million means 55 mill tied into 9 players.

Shattenkirk makes no sense.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:21 PM ET
I said this yesterday but if Eichel and Reinhart combined cost 14 million in 18-19, then that season we will have 50 million tied into 8 players:

Eichel (9), Reinhart (5), Okposo (6), Ristolainen (5.5), Bogosian (5.2), Moulson (5), Ennis (4.8), O'Reilly (7.5).

Shattenkirk at 6 million means 55 mill tied into 9 players.

Shattenkirk makes no sense.

- PassionBucket16


If Ennis, Moulson, AND Bogo are all on the team next season.... I'll eat a curtain. There is no way in blue monkey hell if they put out the same type of output under new regime as they have in the past that they get paid almost 15M collectively.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 3:21 PM ET
I said this yesterday but if Eichel and Reinhart combined cost 14 million in 18-19, then that season we will have 50 million tied into 8 players:

Eichel (9), Reinhart (5), Okposo (6), Ristolainen (5.5), Bogosian (5.2), Moulson (5), Ennis (4.8), O'Reilly (7.5).

Shattenkirk at 6 million means 55 mill tied into 9 players.

Shattenkirk makes no sense.

- PassionBucket16

with three of them being gone within 2 years.

We have room for one more big contract right now.....I hope it's used on defense.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:22 PM ET
I said this yesterday but if Eichel and Reinhart combined cost 14 million in 18-19, then that season we will have 50 million tied into 8 players:

Eichel (9), Reinhart (5), Okposo (6), Ristolainen (5.5), Bogosian (5.2), Moulson (5), Ennis (4.8), O'Reilly (7.5).

Shattenkirk at 6 million means 55 mill tied into 9 players.

Shattenkirk makes no sense.

- PassionBucket16



Unless Botts has a plan to shed some of those bad contracts, pass on The Shatt.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 3:23 PM ET
with three of them being gone within 2 years.

We have room for one more big contract right now.....I hope it's used on defense.

- sbroads24


But not Shattdueces... Please... NO SHATTDUECES.

plus... Larsson is #22. That's a conundrum.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:24 PM ET
I said this yesterday but if Eichel and Reinhart combined cost 14 million in 18-19, then that season we will have 50 million tied into 8 players:

Eichel (9), Reinhart (5), Okposo (6), Ristolainen (5.5), Bogosian (5.2), Moulson (5), Ennis (4.8), O'Reilly (7.5).

Shattenkirk at 6 million means 55 mill tied into 9 players.

Shattenkirk makes no sense.

- PassionBucket16



Shattenkirk is getting more than 6, and what about Kane ????
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:24 PM ET
If Ennis, Moulson, AND Bogo are all on the team next season.... I'll eat a curtain. There is no way in blue monkey hell if they put out the same type of output under new regime as they have in the past that they get paid almost 15M collectively.
- JVince11


Buying out Moulson/Ennis = 2.5 mill in dead money for the next 4 years.

Buying out Bogosian = 2.5 mill in dead money for the next 6 years.

Who is trading for any of them?
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:25 PM ET
I trust JB to send $$$ out if we pay Shattenkirk. He is a good offensive defenseman. I trust JB and Housley...

My .02

In:Shatt

Out:Bogo?

Maybe we sign Shatt, Trade for Scandella+dump for Nylander, Bogo+? (I'm not on teh Nylander bandwagon at all)

IDK value outside of NHL17 lol
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:27 PM ET
Per Schopp: Vanek 6th in the league in pp60 5-on-5
- jcragcrumple

the analytics man, who seemingly hates almost everything about hockey, strikes again
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:27 PM ET
Shattenkirk is getting more than 6, and what about Kane ????
- bobmack13


Great point about Kane. Maybe Scandella for Kane with adders? So kind of a Kane for Shatt for Scandella and Shatt? IDK

Im happy Sabres are in the news!
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:28 PM ET
Shattenkirk is getting more than 6, and what about Kane ????
- bobmack13


Kane is gone
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:28 PM ET
I trust JB to send $$$ out if we pay Shattenkirk. He is a good offensive defenseman. I trust JB and Housley...

My .02

In:Shatt

Out:Bogo?

Maybe we sign Shatt, Trade for Scandella+dump for Nylander, Bogo+? (I'm not on teh Nylander bandwagon at all)

IDK value outside of NHL17 lol

- SyrSabreFan


Bogosian isn't going anywhere.
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:30 PM ET
Bogosian isn't going anywhere.
- PassionBucket16


Why not? Are they hoping for a resurgence? Do you have sources? (not asking like a jerk)
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 29 @ 3:30 PM ET
Bogosian isn't going anywhere.
- PassionBucket16


You'd have to give a first round pick + to trade him outta here.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 29 @ 3:30 PM ET
Kane is gone
- PassionBucket16



insider info?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 29 @ 3:35 PM ET
the analytics man, who seemingly hates almost everything about hockey, strikes again
- Michael Pachla



No bulldog today. I love Vanek talk and I hate Schopp. So conflicted
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 29 @ 3:36 PM ET
There's no reports. Just because he was on "The Instigators" and didn't poop on Buffalo doesn't mean he wants to come back.
- PassionBucket16


Doesn't mean he doesn't want to come back either. I had heard reports that he was open to returning this past season...maybe that's nonsense.

At the same point, the rest of the points are valid and good justification for bringing him in either way.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:36 PM ET
You'd have to give a first round pick + to trade him outta here.
- mattsox


How many times have Nathan Horton, Chris Pronger, and David Clarkson's contracts been traded? Anything is possible but yes CLB did have to give a 1st AND a 2nd for them to take Clarkson and not anyone else in the expansion.

I don't think Bogo is as bad as a lot here and I think a 26 year old D man like him under Housley could have a resurgence. A lot of D-Men take time to grow.

Hedman was considered close to a bust for a while in TB until Cooper came along and now he is top 10 for the Norris 2 years running and also 26.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:38 PM ET
Kane is gone
- PassionBucket16



Kanes not leaving for nothing. He's either resigned, or someone with some salary is coming back for him.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 29 @ 3:39 PM ET
How many times have Nathan Horton, Chris Pronger, and David Clarkson's contracts been traded? Anything is possible but yes CLB did have to give a 1st AND a 2nd for them to take Clarkson and not anyone else in the expansion.

I don't think Bogo is as bad as a lot here and I think a 26 year old D man like him under Housley could have a resurgence. A lot of D-Men take time to grow.

Hedman was considered close to a bust for a while in TB until Cooper came along and now he is top 10 for the Norris 2 years running and also 26.

- JVince11



a) he was never considered a bust, not on the level of bogosian

b)hedman took a huge jump in that shortened season..2012-13 not at 26

since then hes been amongst the top 5 d year after year. at 26 bogosian is what he is.. which isnt very good.
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:39 PM ET
Why not? Are they hoping for a resurgence? Do you have sources? (not asking like a jerk)
- SyrSabreFan


He's got a horrible contract for a 5/6 defenseman. Buy out would be horrible. To get rid of him you're taking back another horrendous one.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:40 PM ET
Which one of these color schemes looks best?

bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:40 PM ET
How many times have Nathan Horton, Chris Pronger, and David Clarkson's contracts been traded? Anything is possible but yes CLB did have to give a 1st AND a 2nd for them to take Clarkson and not anyone else in the expansion.

I don't think Bogo is as bad as a lot here and I think a 26 year old D man like him under Housley could have a resurgence. A lot of D-Men take time to grow.

Hedman was considered close to a bust for a while in TB until Cooper came along and now he is top 10 for the Norris 2 years running and also 26.

- JVince11


Bogos become a whipping boy around here (some legit reasons), but he's not as bad as he's made out to be.
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:41 PM ET
Kanes not leaving for nothing. He's either resigned, or someone with some salary is coming back for him.
- bobmack13


He's not being extended. Gone after this season.
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