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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:58 PM ET
Dennis Bernstein‏ @DennisTFP
Dennis Bernstein Retweeted Anthony Grant
Don't see Sabres at point where Shattenkirk makes sense. Devs can shoot moon on $$, Rangers have cleared $$ for a bid. I'm not big on player
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 29 @ 5:58 PM ET
You'd think we are over the cap by 10mil by the way some are worried about how much some players make.

I have to worry about my own bills. I'm not gonna worry about how my sports teams spend their money, just win baby!

Sign Shatt, Sign Will Butcher.. and JB fixed the defense in 7 weeks

- gordong

Logically it makes zero sense to buy anyone out. Bury them in the minors.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:00 PM ET
Logically it makes zero sense to buy anyone out. Bury them in the minors.
- Mentalorgasm5



Burying them in the minors doesn't alleviate the cap hit much (just $500K)
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:01 PM ET
Dennis Bernstein‏ @DennisTFP
Dennis Bernstein Retweeted Anthony Grant
Don't see Sabres at point where Shattenkirk makes sense. Devs can shoot moon on $$, Rangers have cleared $$ for a bid. I'm not big on player

- Sabresfan-365



If this was a year after signing Antipin and Bo is working I would be all about Shattenkirk...

In the mean time if he signs here I am not going to complain, cap guys figure out the cap and that's what Botterill does.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:03 PM ET
If this was a year after signing Antipin and Bo is working I would be all about Shattenkirk...

In the mean time if he signs here I am not going to complain, cap guys figure out the cap and that's what Botterill does.

- Stripes77



until something big comes out story wise like a legit leak or something am still of the opinion that we are being used as leverage
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 6:03 PM ET
Burying them in the minors doesn't alleviate the cap hit much (just $1025K)
- Stripes77


FTFY
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:04 PM ET
Holy crap Saturday is the 10 year anniversary of Drury and Briere leaving...

Wow...


Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:05 PM ET
FTFY
- TheSabresTaco



Both guys? Sure

But still it's better to buy them out then
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:06 PM ET
Burying them in the minors doesn't alleviate the cap hit much (just $500K)
- Stripes77

it clears a little over a million dollars, but we don't need the cap space. It could alleviate zero, it still wouldn't make sense to buy them out. Many cases the buyout doesn't save much, and its going to double your year of dead money.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:10 PM ET
it clears a little over a million dollars, but we don't need the cap space. It could alleviate zero, it still wouldn't make sense to buy them out. Many cases the buyout doesn't save much, and its going to double your year of dead money.
- Mentalorgasm5



https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout_calculator/

I don't think you're looking at it right

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:14 PM ET
Dennis Bernstein‏ @DennisTFP
Dennis Bernstein Retweeted Anthony Grant
Don't see Sabres at point where Shattenkirk makes sense. Devs can shoot moon on $$, Rangers have cleared $$ for a bid. I'm not big on player

- Sabresfan-365

This is kid of dumb

-Sabres don't make sense for good players, until they get good players to make them better
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:16 PM ET
This is kid of dumb

-Sabres don't make sense for good players, until they get good players to make them better

- sbroads24



He said he is not big on the player so really then in his opinion does it make sense to any team?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:16 PM ET
This is kid of dumb

-Sabres don't make sense for good players, until they get good players to make them better

- sbroads24



i dont see how its dumb. until they establish some sort of contending core its likely that we'll get passed over a lot in FA. mind you i dont believe thats what's happening with shattenkirk but as a general statement it makes sense
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 29 @ 6:17 PM ET
This is kid of dumb

-Sabres don't make sense for good players, until they get good players to make them better

- sbroads24


I like Bernstein. He is asked for an opinion then hated for giving it. He said this in regards to Buffalo is too far away from contending for shats to go there to make sense.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:18 PM ET
i dont see how its dumb. until they establish some sort of contending core its likely that we'll get passed over a lot in FA. mind you i dont believe thats what's happening with shattenkirk but as a general statement it makes sense
- Sabresfan-365

We literally signed the best free agent winger last year.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:18 PM ET
I like Bernstein. He is asked for an opinion then hated for giving it. He said this in regards to Buffalo is too far away from contending for shats to go there to make sense.
- JVince11

No, his tweet said that it doesn't make sense for Sabres. Which is asinine

You have Jack Eichel entering his prime. Any good player makes sense
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:21 PM ET
A defensemen who's very good, and will be very good for 4/5 years, doesn't fit a team who's biggest need is puck moving D men?

I seriously am confused .

If this was another winger I'd agree totally
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:22 PM ET
Chris Nichols‏ @NicholsOnHockey 47s48 seconds ago

McKenzie: Just a guess, but "I won't be surprised if Price's number on an extension comes in at between $10-11 million." #Habs


Sheesh...

I am happy to be paying both goalies less than that combined...hopefully both goalies under $6 million combined (would be ecstatic if it was under $5 million combined)
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:22 PM ET
A defensemen who's very good, and will be very good for 4/5 years, doesn't fit a team who's biggest need is puck moving D men?

I seriously am confused .

If this was another winger I'd agree totally

- sbroads24



Which we could use another winger, just not a high priced guy
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:25 PM ET
Which we could use another winger, just not a high priced guy
- Stripes77

I am fully confident Nick Baptiste or Bailey will end up being a solid contributor with Eichel. Both can fly.

JB IMO will invest where it counts, centers and D men.

He will find value in goaltending and wingers
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:26 PM ET
I am fully confident Nick Baptiste or Bailey will end up being a solid contributor with Eichel. Both can fly.

JB IMO will invest where it counts, centers and D men.

He will find value in goaltending and wingers

- sbroads24



What would your pairings look like with Shattenkirk?

I also think Ennis gets moved and Bailey or Baptiste gets their chance
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:30 PM ET
not like we're competing right away
- Sabresfan-365


Attaboy
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:31 PM ET
You guys gotta tell me who you are on there. Need more sabres fans to talk to there.
- JVince11


What's your name ?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:33 PM ET
What's your name ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Robert Paulson
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:34 PM ET
So can anyone tell me what Vanek said today ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS



"Where's the vodka Goddamnit!! You know I need my medicine!"
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