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PensFan1962
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Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.13.2016

Jun 30 @ 3:03 PM ET
ZAR will be their Hornqvist replacement. Sprong will be their Hagelin replacement.

They need a third line C via trade--Jordan Staal? What does Carolina need?
NJPensfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.25.2006

Jun 30 @ 3:03 PM ET
I actually think ZAR makes the roster before Sprong
- stowerkraut


Only because he can actually play bottom 6 minutes and do well there, whereas Sprong is top 6 material all the way and there's a bit of a log jam ahead of him in that area right now. In the end, I like Sprong's chances of being an elite scoring winger in the NHL.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 30 @ 3:09 PM ET
ZAR will be their Hornqvist replacement. Sprong will be their Hagelin replacement.

They need a third line C via trade--Jordan Staal? What does Carolina need?

- PensFan1962

Well to start they would need Sprong and ZAR.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 3:12 PM ET
ZAR will be their Hornqvist replacement. Sprong will be their Hagelin replacement.

They need a third line C via trade--Jordan Staal? What does Carolina need?

- PensFan1962


Goalscoring and to not trade one of the leagues best possession forwards to another team in the division.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 3:13 PM ET
Well to start they would need Sprong and ZAR.
- Dcoms


Wouldn't take them.

We're buying guys that can score now. Not looking for futures.
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Jun 30 @ 3:14 PM ET
ZAR is probably more of a complete player right now, but Sprong is definitely more talented moving forward
- PhillyCheese


Agreed. I think his size and quality of competition, so far, puts him ahead. Wouldn't be surprised to not see either until injuries happen tho.
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Jun 30 @ 3:16 PM ET
Wouldn't take them.

We're buying guys that can score now. Not looking for futures.

- BINGO!


How bout for Turbo?
rbaurle51
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: McKees Rocks, PA
Joined: 09.20.2014

Jun 30 @ 3:16 PM ET
Wouldn't take them.

We're buying guys that can score now. Not looking for futures.

- BINGO!


Sprong could score 20 goals in the NHL this year.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jun 30 @ 3:17 PM ET
Jokinen as a 4th line center/jack of all trades guy would be great on the cheap, but I don't think they're going to use him as their 3rd line guy. But I think they'll probably still make a trade.

Oh, and from last blog:

Not saying I would want Jagr at this point, but cut the guy some slack.


1 goal in his last 39 playoff games. Yes, he was great in the 90's. But that doesn't matter at all in terms of what value he holds now, which is to be an ego-centric loafer who will still accumulate points if the coach meets his demands for #1 PP time.

And the Barry Bonds thing is about more than just playoff issues - it's about being a jagoff, being a traitor to the city of Pittsburgh, and being a me-first player.

And Jagr is probably no stranger to the clear and the cream, either.
eNDSo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2016

Jun 30 @ 3:17 PM ET
The chart isn't saying play him on the first line, these charts are ranking the players by an analytic metric, and then lumping them into groups. The top group being "first line", "second line", and so on.

It should not be literally translated as "this metric says the player is a 1st line center" but as "this player ranks in the top [# of first line positions in league] for this metric."

I can make a chart about hits, and all of the best hitters would be considered "first line". How important you weigh hitting is entirely up to you, not the chart.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 3:19 PM ET
How bout for Turbo?
- stowerkraut


Who he (frank) is Turbo?
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Jun 30 @ 3:20 PM ET
Who he (frank) is Turbo?
- j.boyd919

NJPensfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.25.2006

Jun 30 @ 3:23 PM ET
Wouldn't take them.

We're buying guys that can score now. Not looking for futures.

- BINGO!


Well, that would typically be everyone wants, even teams that are rebuilding, but I don't see the Canes as being just a "now" player or two away from a championship anyway so what's the rush? Not that I give up those two futures commodities for a non-top 4 defenseman or a 3rd line center anyway, which is all Staal would be...again.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 3:25 PM ET
Sprong could score 20 goals in the NHL this year.
- rbaurle51


Great. So does Staal. How does that help?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 3:27 PM ET
Well, that would typically be everyone wants, even teams that are rebuilding, but I don't see the Canes as being just a "now" player or two away from a championship anyway so what's the rush? Not that I give up those two futures commodities for a non-top 4 defenseman or a 3rd line center anyway, which is all Staal would be...again.
- NJPensfan


Because if they don't make the playoffs, they're probably not going to survive in this market. We're kind of near the point you guys were at when Sid fell in your laps.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 3:27 PM ET
How bout for Turbo?
- stowerkraut


Again... how does that help us now?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 3:30 PM ET
Wouldn't take them.

We're buying guys that can score now. Not looking for futures.

- BINGO!

is carolina looking to make the transition that the future is now the present?

i really dont think they would be too far off if a transaction or two broke their way. good young pieces, staal is still a big part of a winning core, young defense coming together.

still think they are one or two forwards away though, so i agree if that is the plan moving staal for futures isnt the play.
NJPensfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.25.2006

Jun 30 @ 3:32 PM ET
Jokinen as a 4th line center/jack of all trades guy would be great on the cheap, but I don't think they're going to use him as their 3rd line guy. But I think they'll probably still make a trade.

Oh, and from last blog:



1 goal in his last 39 playoff games. Yes, he was great in the 90's. But that doesn't matter at all in terms of what value he holds now, which is to be an ego-centric loafer who will still accumulate points if the coach meets his demands for #1 PP time.

And the Barry Bonds thing is about more than just playoff issues - it's about being a jagoff, being a traitor to the city of Pittsburgh, and being a me-first player.

And Jagr is probably no stranger to the clear and the cream, either.

- hardnosed


You classified him as a player who doesn't show up, your words, not mine. If you want to say he's declined in his recent playoff performances, that's fair, but saying he doesn't show up, that's not.

And as far as him being a jagoff. Hey, I wasn't happy with his comments before he was traded and his attitude was less than professional at that point, but I'd never consider him a Bonds level jagoff.

Accusing him of using performance enhancing drugs now? Look, you obviously have a real hate and dislike for the guy so I can see debating anything further with you would be pointless.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 30 @ 3:34 PM ET
Wait... is that Kenny Augustino guy that Ek just blogged about like the guy we traded for Iginla?

Also, you got retweeted by Biznasty today, Gunner. You've truly made it.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 30 @ 3:35 PM ET
Who he (frank) is Turbo?
- j.boyd919

Teravanen. Only know this dumb ass nickname cus of all my Chicago friends.
NJPensfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.25.2006

Jun 30 @ 3:36 PM ET
Again... how does that help us now?
- BINGO!


What do you think the Canes should give up to help them now that would be beneficial to the other team?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 3:37 PM ET
Teravanen. Only know this dumb ass nickname cus of all my Chicago friends.
- Victoro311

just makes me think of the Turbo Man doll
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 30 @ 3:38 PM ET
What do you think the Canes should give up to help them now that would be beneficial to the other team?
- NJPensfan

Fleury should be a trade chip at this point with Faulk and Hanifin back there.
T-Train
Joined: 06.20.2016

Jun 30 @ 3:50 PM ET
Wait... is that Kenny Augustino guy that Ek just blogged about like the guy we traded for Iginla?

Also, you got retweeted by Biznasty today, Gunner. You've truly made it.

- Victoro311

That's what I thought, too. I know we had a few guys named Augustino, D'Agostini, Agostini, and D'Augustino, but now we have none.
Vitorio
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 3:52 PM ET
Ryan Murphy? New Shultz?
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