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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 4:28 PM ET
In the old days they'd be having a parade with horses.
- A_SteamingLombardi



In the old days the PO's started with the semis....
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:28 PM ET
I don't get why some people think we will be better with these acquisitions.
- pker2theend


I think we will be better based off of improvements from Eriksson and Sedins returning to form alone. I also think Hutton bounces back in a big way if they can get him away from Gudbranson.

Our bottom pairing should be a lot better, we actually will have some depth in both NHL and AHL, we won't be good but we shouldn't be bottom 5 IMO.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 4:30 PM ET
I don't get why some people think we will be better with these acquisitions.
- pker2theend



Short term help its obvious.
Longterm is when our prospects r ready.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:35 PM ET
King is just a flat out bad hockey player, I don't care if he hits. He sucks. Why do you want to ice a player who struggles in all 3 zones and drags down his linemates?


DSP can score once in awhile though at least but he's a scrub too. If you can find functional toughness then sign me up, but I don't want more scrubs taking up minutes and dragging down linemates.

I'm all for tanking, but not in a way where the team ices players who the young players can't play well with if they end up on the same line.


Dorsett already said he's good to go next year, one of those guys is enough. If you can find someone decent as a player sign me up though. Like Edmonton with Maroon/Kassian/Lucic.

- Nucker101


I disagree with your assessment of King and disagree that you only need one player capable of hitting. Dorsett is fine because he has shown in the past he is decent hockey player but he won't intimidate with his hits at all. Guys who are heavy in the corners make room for skilled players, they also force mistakes and we have no one capable of either unless JV gets his poop together.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:41 PM ET
I disagree with your assessment of King and disagree that you only need one player capable of hitting. Dorsett is fine because he has shown in the past he is decent hockey player but he won't intimidate with his hits at all. Guys who are heavy in the corners make room for skilled players, they also force mistakes and we have no one capable of either unless JV gets his poop together.
- belcherbd


1) In your opinion, what is King good at? Besides hitting/fighting.

2) I didn't mean one "hitter" is good enough, I meant to say that having on guy who isn't that good of a NHL player that does nothing but hit/fight to stay in the league is more than enough. I'd love to have a team full of functional toughness.

3) No evidence suggests that King or DSP make their linemates better, defensively or offensively.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 4:45 PM ET
1) In your opinion, what is King good at? Besides hitting/fighting.

2) I didn't mean one "hitter" is good enough, I meant to say that having on guy who isn't that good of a NHL player that does nothing but hit/fight to stay in the league is more than enough. I'd love to have a team full of functional toughness.

3) No evidence suggests that King or DSP make their linemates better, defensively or offensively.

- Nucker101



Why even discuss 2 players who don't belong in todays game?
Waste of roster spots & contracts IMO
Thats what todays scrap heap of UFA's has come to....GARBAGE mostly
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:46 PM ET
Why even discuss 2 players who don't belong in todays game?
Waste of roster spots & contracts IMO

- Nighthawk

Agreed


Even in the SCF..Cody McLeod was a non-factor. It was all about skill/speed/determination during that series. People need to get over 2011, face punchers who wouldn't be in the league base don their on-ice play alone are going extinct. Functional toughness will always be at a premium though.

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 2 @ 4:46 PM ET
Sure, but this team is still pretty weak upfront, not every player needs to be speedy goalscorer. Smith-pelly is another option.
- belcherbd

We are tough enough. We have Stetcher and Sutter
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:49 PM ET
We are tough enough. We have Stetcher and Sutter
- CanuckDon



rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jul 2 @ 4:49 PM ET
We are tough enough. We have Stetcher and Sutter
- CanuckDon


And along comes Don to lighten the mood.

SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:50 PM ET
Would it be something like

Tavares-McDavid-Stamkos
Matthews-Seguin-Marner
Drouin-Draisatl-Patrick
Hischier-Mackinnon-Laine

- Retinalz

people here would still say the roster sucks
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:53 PM ET

- VANTEL[img]

Heading to White Water rafting

is that the short bus?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 4:53 PM ET
Back to the PRICE ain't RIGHT...

Gonna be 31 when the 8yr extension begins.
Can only fail at $10.5m/yr.
Wtf MB has a job?
1st Subban & then Weber & now Price.
Offence stinks
What an outright moron....
Malade a la tete
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 2 @ 4:54 PM ET
But if TSN says that they'll lose viewership, TSN is only saying what their audience wants to hear. STOP WATCHING TSN, STOP LISTENING TO TSN.

The only opinions that matter in this market are ours..............well, except for maybe Reuben.

- A_SteamingLombardi





Not a fan of insanity as defined by Einstein.

Love the picks from 2nd round and beyond thus year though. Also, these free-agent signings are fine for sheltering the young players.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:56 PM ET
1) In your opinion, what is King good at? Besides hitting/fighting.

2) I didn't mean one "hitter" is good enough, I meant to say that having on guy who isn't that good of a NHL player that does nothing but hit/fight to stay in the league is more than enough. I'd love to have a team full of functional toughness.

3) No evidence suggests that King or DSP make their linemates better, defensively or offensively.

- Nucker101


I think King has decent offensive play, can cycle the puck and finish some plays. I've suggested him as a Sedin linemate in the past because of this. He was a pretty good player in the AHL as a scorer.

As much as I'm not a big Dorsett fan, mostly because he picks fights for no reason then gets his ass kicked, I do think he is a legit NHLer based off his skills alone. King less so but much more effective than sestito, who I would put in that 1trick pony catagory.

I would have to look for some evidence, but as I'm sure you are aware not everything in the NHL translates very well to a stat.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 4:56 PM ET


Not a fan of insanity as defined by Einstein.

Love the picks from 2nd round and beyond thus year though. Also, these free-agent signings are fine for sheltering the young players.

- Reubenkincade



Doing the same thing over n over & expecting different results?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 2 @ 4:56 PM ET
Back to the PRICE ain't RIGHT...

Gonna be 31 when the 8yr extension begins.
Can only fail at $10.5m/yr.
Wtf MB has a job?
1st Subban & then Weber & now Price.
Offence stinks
What an outright moron....
Malade a la tete

- Nighthawk


big dislike from me.
I like Price (and Luongo), but i would never want to have a goaltender as the highest paid player on the team again.
let alone a 38 year old.
Eldebrink
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Port Compton, BC
Joined: 08.18.2016

Jul 2 @ 4:57 PM ET
Some guy on PanthersHF who's apparently broke some news for them before said the deal was Sutter for Demers..Demers said no to Van though
- Nucker101

That's who I thought would go the other way. Might be difficult to move Sutter's contract unless it's for another bad one.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jul 2 @ 5:00 PM ET
When was BO going to get signed for under $5m?
This is news to me 😂😂

- Nighthawk


from the beginning I heard comparing Bo's worth to the Trochek contract. Since then, and especially now, it seems like it'll be over 5.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:00 PM ET
That's who I thought would go the other way. Might be difficult to move Sutter's contract unless it's for another bad one.
- Eldebrink



Sorry disagree. No need to get a bad contract in return.
Difficult maybe but more about timing if actually being shopped.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 2 @ 5:01 PM ET
That's who I thought would go the other way. Might be difficult to move Sutter's contract unless it's for another bad one.
- Eldebrink


i'd rather keep Sutter over Demers, assuming Henrik retires and we re-sign Gudbranson.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:03 PM ET
i'd rather keep Sutter over Demers, assuming Henrik retires and we re-sign Gudbranson.
- dbot


15+ goals from a 200' 3C is fine by me
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jul 2 @ 5:07 PM ET
15+ goals from a 200' 3C is fine by me
- Nighthawk


Ya, I agree. I don't get the hate for Sutter. He is a good 3C. That's it. His contract is hefty tho. But at this stage of our team, does it really matter? Bonino scores just as much as Sutter. He just got 4+ as a 3C. Nice player, but severely overrated cause of the team he played for and players he played behind. He was well insulated in Pitt.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 2 @ 5:07 PM ET
Doing the same thing over n over & expecting different results?
- Nighthawk


Exactly.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 2 @ 5:08 PM ET
15+ goals from a 200' 3C is fine by me
- Nighthawk


ditto
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