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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:09 PM ET
Ya, I agree. I don't get the hate for Sutter. He is a good 3C. That's it. His contract is hefty tho. But at this stage of our team, does it really matter? Bonino scores just as much as Sutter. He just got 4+ as a 3C. Nice player, but severely overrated cause of the team he played for and players he played behind. He was well insulated in Pitt.
- storm88



The hate is unfounded & his contract is the excuse.
He pulls his weight but the others don't in general.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 2 @ 5:10 PM ET
I think King has decent offensive play, can cycle the puck and finish some plays. I've suggested him as a Sedin linemate in the past because of this. He was a pretty good player in the AHL as a scorer.

As much as I'm not a big Dorsett fan, mostly because he picks fights for no reason then gets his ass kicked, I do think he is a legit NHLer based off his skills alone. King less so but much more effective than sestito, who I would put in that 1trick pony catagory.

I would have to look for some evidence, but as I'm sure you are aware not everything in the NHL translates very well to a stat.

- belcherbd

I was just thinking that we might be able to fetch a few picks for Dorsett at the TDL he has excelled in the playoffs before
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:12 PM ET
I was just thinking that we might be able to fetch a few picks for Dorsett at the TDL he has excelled in the playoffs before
- CanuckDon



No probs with that & we prolly eat 500k/yr
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 2 @ 5:13 PM ET
I was just thinking that we might be able to fetch a few picks for Dorsett at the TDL he has excelled in the playoffs before
- CanuckDon


i'd be surprised.
maybe a 6th.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:14 PM ET
With our current state of affairs i'd call players assets while the prospects develop.
Future TDL's & drafts r what the doctor ordered.
In 3-5yrs prolly many currently here r gone.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jul 2 @ 5:15 PM ET
I don't get why some people think we will be better with these acquisitions.
- pker2theend

I think burmistrov and Wiercioch will be the surprises
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:17 PM ET
I think burmistrov and Wiercioch will be the surprises
- SMBDragon


Burmistrov will improve our 4th line IMO
Wiercioch simply depth & a mentor.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jul 2 @ 5:18 PM ET
Stay healthy and they will be, lets face it the injuries last year was unbelievable.
- Bettmanhatesus

too bad the injuries werent behind the bench cause then we'd have improved
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:18 PM ET
JV Burmistrov DD could be very fun if JV can prove he has matured.
If DD gets injured again call ups can help eg Labate
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:20 PM ET
too bad the injuries werent behind the bench cause then we'd have improved
- SMBDragon



Coaching was not going to change our teams growth or success.
Stop gap was all it was....a delaying action.
They r gone & its a new day.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jul 2 @ 5:22 PM ET
I was just thinking that we might be able to fetch a few picks for Dorsett at the TDL he has excelled in the playoffs before
- CanuckDon


Maybe Burr trade inspired you but DD is not a smart player like him.

When DD's value was higher JB tried to trade him but there were no takers. He takes dumb penalties and his hits have no impact. So doubt any playoff team will want him now in new need to score NHL.

DD really is taking up a roster spot like Higgins was and should get sent down. He'll do a lot more good leading a young Comets group and whipping them into NHL level work ethic.

That opens a development spot on Canucks roster to pump up value of reclamation player or train a prospect.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jul 2 @ 5:22 PM ET
Unlike some here i havent given up on Virtanen yet. I remember lots of power forwards taking years to figure it out before they made it. Does Virtanen deserve a spot on the opening day roster, yes in Utica . I think that a full season in the Ahl will cause him to focus better on being a professional and giving what it takes to make the big show. I do believe expections need to be tempered as to his potential but he could one day be a useful piece of the puzzle. If some need reminding of the struggles of power forwards rememer the paths Guerin, Bertuzzi ,
even Shanahan went through early in their careers.

- Tigersmyle

yep....said the exact same thing many times.
after 4 years the isles gave up on bertuzzi and made the trade to van.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 2 @ 5:23 PM ET
i'd be surprised.
maybe a 6th.

- dbot

if Burrows got us Dahlen than Dorsett should get us a first you may dislike Dorsett but some team will pay for him
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 2 @ 5:24 PM ET
When his value was higher JB tried to trade him but there were no takers. He takes dumb penalties and his hits have no impact. So doubt any playoff team will want him now in new need to score NHL.

DD really is taking up a roster spot like Higgins was and should get sent down. He'll do a lot more good leading a young Comets group and whipping them into NHL level work ethic.

That opens a development spot on Canucks roster to pump up value of reclamation player or train a prospect.

- Nuck4U

When did JB try to trade him?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 2 @ 5:26 PM ET
I was just thinking that we might be able to fetch a few picks for Dorsett at the TDL he has excelled in the playoffs before
- CanuckDon


43 Playoff Games
0 Goals
2 Assists
-11


CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 2 @ 5:28 PM ET
43 Playoff Games
0 Goals
2 Assists
-11



- Nucker101

Which ever team plays the penguins in the first round will trade for Dorsett
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jul 2 @ 5:31 PM ET
Which ever team plays the penguins in the first round will trade for Dorsett
- CanuckDon


I'm afraid his injury could scare any takers away. We're likely stuck with him.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 2 @ 5:33 PM ET
JV Burmistrov DD could be very fun if JV can prove he has matured.
If DD gets injured again call ups can help eg Labate

- Nighthawk


I liked the energy he brought to the 4th line making hits, but I'm not sure if he has any hockey sense.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jul 2 @ 5:33 PM ET
When did JB try to trade him?
- CanuckDon


The disappointing 2016 TDL he was on the list with bust Prust; can't skate no more Higgins; jack ass Virbata; and getting burned Hammer.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 2 @ 5:34 PM ET
if Burrows got us Dahlen than Dorsett should get us a first you may dislike Dorsett but some team will pay for him
- CanuckDon


Burrows played up and down the lineup.
Good pk.
Great energy player.

DD i don't dislike, but he's not versatile, hands of stone.

No comparison imo.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 2 @ 5:35 PM ET
The disappointing 2016 TDL he was on the list with bust Prust; can't skate no more Higgins; jack ass Virbata; and getting burned Hammer.
- Nuck4U

He wasn't on the list
oilpatch
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 01.23.2014

Jul 2 @ 5:35 PM ET
Burrows played up and down the lineup.
Good pk.
Great energy player.

DD i don't dislike, but he's not versatile, hands of stone.

No comparison imo.

- dbot



Thanks Carol
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 2 @ 5:36 PM ET
Burrows played up and down the lineup.
Good pk.
Great energy player.

DD i don't dislike, but he's not versatile, hands of stone.

No comparison imo.

- dbot

I think Burrows is terrible so we will have to agree to disagree. We will see at the TDL
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 2 @ 5:36 PM ET
Pierre McGuire said the 2020 draft is going to be the best ever. These kids are 15, how the (frank) would he know that?
- Scooby_Doo


Never underestimate Pierre's understanding of 15 year old boys.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jul 2 @ 5:37 PM ET
Which ever team plays the penguins in the first round will trade for Dorsett
- CanuckDon


Why so they can lose by all the dumb penalties he takes. DD is not a smart player and doesn't hold a candle to Burr's value.
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