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Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 2:18 PM ET
Yeah but my point is if he were a franchise center, his team shouldn't have trouble at least making the playoffs every year
- chilliard77



By that scenario Crosby shouldn't have missed the playoffs ever...

Garth Snow put together a crap roster and you're gonna say Tavares isn't a franchise center? Remember when Barry Melrose said Stamkos was no good? That's you right now
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 2 @ 2:30 PM ET
I love his message about team toughness. We had huge success with skill and speed
After the rule changes and we did not have any tough guys to speak of. I
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 2 @ 2:36 PM ET
Montreal is insanely dumb
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San Jose Sharks
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Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 2 @ 2:37 PM ET
I love his message about team toughness. We had huge success with skill and speed
After the rule changes and we did not have any tough guys to speak of. I

- lulags


We did that toughness thing and it sucked lol
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 2:44 PM ET
We did that toughness thing and it sucked lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS



Huge difference. He said team toughness not John Scott toughness
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jul 2 @ 2:55 PM ET
Huge difference. He said team toughness not John Scott toughness
- Stripes77


We get pretty soft, less skilled if they trade Kane and they are trying to get faster, that would set them back. Just pay the guy 6+ mil for 5 year and get it over with.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 2:57 PM ET
We get pretty soft, less skilled if they trade Kane and they are trying to get faster, that would set them back. Just pay the guy 6+ mil for 5 year and get it over with.
- GilPerreault11



He's specifically mentioned Kane...I agree with you
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San Jose Sharks
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Jul 2 @ 2:58 PM ET
We get pretty soft, less skilled if they trade Kane and they are trying to get faster, that would set them back. Just pay the guy 6+ mil for 5 year and get it over with.
- GilPerreault11


Pass
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 2 @ 2:58 PM ET
Huge difference. He said team toughness not John Scott toughness
- Stripes77

Mental toughness over physical. Couldn't agree more. Stupid penalties and blowups all year.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jul 2 @ 3:01 PM ET
He's specifically mentioned Kane...I agree with you
- Stripes77


I think there's a better chance he gets signed. It seems maybe he and his agent might not want to chance the FA market which hasn't been a bull market this year not to mention Kane has issues and has a tendency to get beat up on the ice. It might be smart to take a nice offer from the Sabres but who knows.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 2 @ 3:05 PM ET
I love his message about team toughness. We had huge success with skill and speed
After the rule changes and we did not have any tough guys to speak of. I

- lulags


'05/'06 sabres did have peters and thorburn for less than half the games played that season...which is rather insignificant, but still, they were on the team...

what they also had were some very gritty players in the likes of McKee, griere, goose, Dumont and mair

I don't believe botts was thinking ryan reaves when he was talking about possibly adding to team toughness
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
Montreal is insanely dumb
- sbroads24



Coming from the franchise that traded PK straight up for Weber what else did you expect?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
Pass
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how about 3yrs./$20M?
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 3:09 PM ET
Wow $70 million of that contract for Price is signing bonus...they will never be able to buy him out...but they will be able to trade him when he's washed up to help a team get to the cap floor...low salary high cap hit
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 3:11 PM ET
Chicago trades Kruger to Vegas for future considerations...seriously send Bogo there now!
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 2 @ 3:11 PM ET
Wow $70 million of that contract for Price is signing bonus...they will never be able to buy him out...but they will be able to trade him when he's washed up to help a team get to the cap floor...low salary high cap hit
- Stripes77

It's moronic. He's a freaking goalie

The difference between Price and a goalie who's solid that you could get for 5 mil isn't that substantial
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 3:13 PM ET
how about 3yrs./$20M?
- Michael Pachla

Why is Kane worth more per year than Taylor Hall, Okposo, Panarin, Forsberg?

He's a 5 mil player. Botterill won't overpay him
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San Jose Sharks
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Jul 2 @ 3:13 PM ET
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
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Jul 2 @ 3:15 PM ET

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He was supposed to be extended yesterday.

Not sure what happened
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 3:16 PM ET
It's moronic. He's a freaking goalie

The difference between Price and a goalie who's solid that you could get for 5 mil isn't that substantial

- sbroads24


You don't have to tell me that...if this was the 90's I'd understand but come on man
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 3:17 PM ET
Why is Kane worth more per year than Taylor Hall, Okposo, Panarin, Forsberg?

He's a 5 mil player. Botterill won't overpay him

- sbroads24


it will be very interesting to see how botts handles this one...dude has his head on straight and I probably won't question the end result unless it's a real long-term deal...

how about you?...do you trust his judgement?
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 3:18 PM ET
it will be very interesting to see how botts handles this one...dude has his head on straight and I probably won't question the end result unless it's a real long-term deal...

how about you?...do you trust his judgement?

- Michael Pachla



He does trust Botterill until he signs Kane to a long term extension at 5.5 mil or above per

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
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Jul 2 @ 3:20 PM ET
it will be very interesting to see how botts handles this one...dude has his head on straight and I probably won't question the end result unless it's a real long-term deal...

how about you?...do you trust his judgement?

- Michael Pachla

Yes. If he signs Kane I would just have to trust he knows what he's doing
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 3:21 PM ET
Yes. If he signs Kane I would just have to trust he knows what he's doing
- sbroads24

that's exactly the way I feel
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jul 2 @ 3:21 PM ET
Why is Kane worth more per year than Taylor Hall, Okposo, Panarin, Forsberg?

He's a 5 mil player. Botterill won't overpay him

- sbroads24


He already makes 5+, he's not going to get a pay cut as a UFA, it's just not how it works with players like him no matter how it could be argued he'll get a raise.
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