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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
Speed and Skill > Meat and Potatoes
- Codes1087

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 6 @ 12:29 PM ET
Speed and Skill > Meat and Potatoes
- Codes1087

truculence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULO6q3oszXo
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 6 @ 12:31 PM ET
I see they have on in Calgary...I'll be checking it out.
- LordHumungous
The one I like is Ramen Jinya at 270 Robson. I think jinya ramen is a separate chain. I could be wrong but that is the only one I go to.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 6 @ 12:31 PM ET
truculence
- LordHumungous

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 6 @ 12:39 PM ET
Speed and Skill + Meat and Potatoes
- Codes1087

fixed
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 6 @ 12:41 PM ET
Do you want to go thru arbitration for AHL player?
- A_SteamingLombardi


This is "player elected" arbitration, the team has no choice. Their choice was to offer a qualifying offer or not. The only way the team can walk away from the arbitrators ruling is if the salary award is >$3.5m, which won't happen in either case. In all likelihood, they will agree on a contract prior to the hearing.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 6 @ 12:48 PM ET
fixed
- manvanfan


so what they thought they were drafting in Virtanen
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 6 @ 12:49 PM ET
This is "player elected" arbitration, the team has no choice. Their choice was to offer a qualifying offer or not. The only way the team can walk away from the arbitrators ruling is if the salary award is >$3.5m, which won't happen in either case. In all likelihood, they will agree on a contract prior to the hearing.
- 1970vintage


it also means that their NHL salary will also be paid if they are waived to the AHL.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 6 @ 12:54 PM ET
This is "player elected" arbitration, the team has no choice. Their choice was to offer a qualifying offer or not. The only way the team can walk away from the arbitrators ruling is if the salary award is >$3.5m, which won't happen in either case. In all likelihood, they will agree on a contract prior to the hearing.
- 1970vintage

Nerd
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 6 @ 1:07 PM ET
Nerd
- Nucker101


annoying to read comments about "walk away", when that isn't actually an option.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 6 @ 1:12 PM ET
it also means that their NHL salary will also be paid if they are waived to the AHL.
- Codes1087


Only if they agree on, or the players are awarded 1-way deals. Neither player has had a 1-way deal in the past, I guess Chaput has a case to make, but Boucher was on waivers 3 times last season.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 6 @ 1:47 PM ET
Only if they agree on, or the players are awarded 1-way deals. Neither player has had a 1-way deal in the past, I guess Chaput has a case to make, but Boucher was on waivers 3 times last season.
- 1970vintage


players who elect to go to arbitration are only awarded 1 way deals. I think.....
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 6 @ 2:00 PM ET
Weren't you a fan of that troll blogger we had?
- Nucker101


Ian was a diamond.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 6 @ 2:14 PM ET
Jim Benning discovered analytics, and he isn't looking back.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ngs-2017-nhl-free-agency/
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 6 @ 2:28 PM ET
players who elect to go to arbitration are only awarded 1 way deals. I think.....
- Codes1087


Nope. The only thing the player can seek is either a 1 year SPC or a 2 year SPC.

Article 12 of the CBA says:

"(ii) The decision of the Salary Arbitrator shall establish:
(A) the term of the SPC, based upon the Player's or Club's election of a one or two year SPC, as set forth in its brief and as consistent with this Article;
(B) the Paragraph 1 NHL Salary to be paid to the Player by the Club for the season(s) in respect to which the salary arbitration is conducted;
(C) the inclusion or otherwise of a Minor League clause (or clauses) and the amount of Paragraph 1 Minor League Salary to be paid under each of the season(s) in respect to which the salary arbitration is requested;
(D) a brief statement of the reasons for the decision, including identification of any comparable(s) relied on."

Both players will of course be seeking 1-way deals for financial security, but I'm sure the club would be pushing for 2-way deals. I expect both players will sign prior to the arbitration hearing, Boucher will sign a 1 year, high NHL, low AHL deal (900k/90k) and Chaput will sign a 1 year, low NHL, high AHL deal (650k/250k). Not a fun process for a player to hear the poop that a club will say about them to get the lowest award possible.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jul 6 @ 2:38 PM ET
Nope. The only thing the player can seek is either a 1 year SPC or a 2 year SPC.

Article 12 of the CBA says:

"(ii) The decision of the Salary Arbitrator shall establish:
(A) the term of the SPC, based upon the Player's or Club's election of a one or two year SPC, as set forth in its brief and as consistent with this Article;
(B) the Paragraph 1 NHL Salary to be paid to the Player by the Club for the season(s) in respect to which the salary arbitration is conducted;
(C) the inclusion or otherwise of a Minor League clause (or clauses) and the amount of Paragraph 1 Minor League Salary to be paid under each of the season(s) in respect to which the salary arbitration is requested;
(D) a brief statement of the reasons for the decision, including identification of any comparable(s) relied on."

Both players will of course be seeking 1-way deals for financial security, but I'm sure the club would be pushing for 2-way deals. I expect both players will sign prior to the arbitration hearing, Boucher will sign a 1 year, high NHL, low AHL deal (900k/90k) and Chaput will sign a 1 year, low NHL, high AHL deal (650k/250k). Not a fun process for a player to hear the poop that a club will say about them to get the lowest award possible.

- 1970vintage



I've got a barn you guys can use if you really want to settle this once and for all....
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 6 @ 2:50 PM ET
I've got a barn you guys can use if you really want to settle this once and for all....
- Pres.cup

fight!
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jul 6 @ 2:53 PM ET
TL on 1040

Sedin's are in a "year to year mode"

- VanHockeyGuy



Yes that's part of what he said, and had said before, but the context is he won't speculate on next year. He'll see where they are at.

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/a...ass-of-prospects-1.798094

Scroll toward the end of interview where he mentions the Sedins as in helping out this year working with the prospects.

The questions on Sedins is like pressing JB on rebuild to to say Canucks won't try to win any games this season. Trying to get Linden to say Sedins won't be back.

Maybe fans need to show up at end of season with thanks for the memories and enjoy retirement placards.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jul 6 @ 3:06 PM ET
Good day,

Words from new Utica coach Trent Cull, meet Darryl Seward and Chaput & Boucher file for arbitration, in the new blog:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...for-arbitration/194/86309
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 6 @ 3:15 PM ET
Yes that's part of what he said, and had said before, but the context is he won't speculate on next year. He'll see where they are at.

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/a...ass-of-prospects-1.798094

Scroll toward the end of interview where he mentions the Sedins as in helping out this year working with the prospects.

The questions on Sedins is like pressing JB on rebuild to to say Canucks won't try to win any games this season. Trying to get Linden to say Sedins won't be back.

Maybe fans need to show up at end of season with thanks for the memories and enjoy retirement placards.

- Nuck4U

Of course Linden wont speculate, that's for everyone else to do, that's what this site is for.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 6 @ 3:48 PM ET
Ian was a diamond.
- pker2theend

He was trash
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