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It was +35 with cloud cover today... fkn gross. - boonerbuck
I had to light the wood stove in the basement a couple of days ago it was 6, I left the windows open over night and the basement filled up with fog. |
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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also when is it the 4th lines job to score? Its usually a shut down line - SMBDragon
That's the old way of thinking. New NHL is moving to speed and scoring on all 4 lines. Size and grit is nice to have but a player that only has that without skill to score is becoming more of an anchor and less an asset. |
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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I put a bigger value on hitting, thus I prefer bigger players. You get a team of big players that hit in the playoffs and it can wear another smaller team down and cost them the series.
so we need at least SOME size on the team. EG and pedan are a start. Some big forwards would help out - SMBDragon
I like players with size. Always have but am adjusting to the new realities of changing game. Notice Pens & Preds beat out bigger teams to be in the Cup final. Can't hit what evades you. Can't wear down what has the puck and scores on you.
Size is great but players need to have skill, speed and ability to process the game at high level. Speed, hockey IQ and skill is trumping size now. I love grit and toughness it's just not enough to only have that anymore.
Notice how defensive systems and goaltenders have gotten so good. Now NHL teams that don't have all four lines able to score get shut down. Only generational players can break through that. Canucks don't have any and so don't need the hitters to protect the superstar. They need balanced scoring.
Maybe JV, MacEwen, and Gadjovich work out to get into the line up to add that size with skill and hit element. But they won't if they can't score and keep up and process the game. Which the latter part is Pedan's and Labate's problem. Tools without the toolbox. It's also held back JV so far. But he's a higher talent and may put it together enough to have an impact. |
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SMBDragon
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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I like players with size. Always have but am adjusting to the new realities of changing game. Notice Pens & Preds beat out bigger teams to be in the Cup final. Can't hit what evades you. Can't wear down what has the puck and scores on you.
Size is great but players need to have skill, speed and ability to process the game at high level. Speed, hockey IQ and skill is trumping size now. I love grit and toughness it's just not enough to only have that anymore.
Notice how defensive systems and goaltenders have gotten so good. Now NHL teams that don't have all four lines able to score get shut down. Only generational players can break through that. Canucks don't have any and so don't need the hitters to protect the superstar. They need balanced scoring.
Maybe JV, MacEwen, and Gadjovich work out to get into the line up to add that size with skill and hit element. But they won't if they can't score and keep up and process the game. Which the latter part is Pedan's and Labate's problem. Tools without the toolbox. It's also held back JV so far. But he's a higher talent and may put it together enough to have an impact. - Nuck4U
there is such a thing as big, smart and skilled |
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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Anyone credited Jarvis with Pettersson's 2 goals yet?
Allow me. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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That's the old way of thinking. New NHL is moving to speed and scoring on all 4 lines. Size and grit is nice to have but a player that only has that without skill to score is becoming more of an anchor and less an asset. - Nuck4U
Geez all u want is speed & scoring & 200' game for our 4th line. Simple enough
20-25 goals is a target. Give energy & not a liability. Stirred not shaken. WALA |
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Geez all u want is speed & scoring & 200' game for our 4th line. Simple enough
20-25 goals is a target. Give energy & not a liability. Stirred not shaken. WALA - Nighthawk
Wala is half a city in Washington. Walla Walla I think you mean Voila or something like that. |
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Geez all u want is speed & scoring & 200' game for our 4th line. Simple enough
20-25 goals is a target. Give energy & not a liability. Stirred not shaken. WALA - Nighthawk
First of all next years roster will be pretty slow.
We will suck so we may as well be entertained by banging insteaad of seing us get our asses kicked night after night |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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The leafs sitting at 48 contracts, invited 33 free agents to camp. Then they had their own draft picks and young AHL players.
What would really be the point of bringing in that many kids if you can't sign any of them?
Why would the kids accept to go there knowing they aren't getting a contract. |
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Adam Gaudette @Hockey_Gaud 17h17 hours ago
Back to the Bean. Thanks @Canucks for another great Development Camp! What a city, can't wait to be back! Vancouver ✈️ Boston ✌🏻 #MyLegsHurt |
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phyllee
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First of all next years roster will be pretty slow.
We will suck so we may as well be entertained by banging insteaad of seing us get our asses kicked night after night - VANTEL
Im just pumped up for Del Zotto, figure he'll be solid paired with tanev or Gudbranson.
Also if Gagner plays with Horvat, i could very well see Horvat hitting 30 goals |
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Adam Gaudette @Hockey_Gaud 17h17 hours ago
Back to the Bean. Thanks @Canucks for another great Development Camp! What a city, can't wait to be back! Vancouver ✈️ Boston ✌🏻 #MyLegsHurt - VANTEL
Maybe that will end the "he's not signing" crap. Good for these guys not being rushed. Maybe JB's signings buys them that time. Gaudette should dominate in NCAA. |
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Maybe that will end the "he's not signing" crap. Good for these guys not being rushed. Maybe JB's signings buys them that time. Gaudette should dominate in NCAA. - VanHockeyGuy
I have heard he was doing nicely the last two years. Craig Buttons was all over him for how good he was. I guess now we are seeing he might be better than anticipated.
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phyllee
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Maybe that will end the "he's not signing" crap. Good for these guys not being rushed. Maybe JB's signings buys them that time. Gaudette should dominate in NCAA. - VanHockeyGuy
He should dominate, i could see him doing what Boeser did last year and sign to play the last 10 is games. Depends on his teams playoff run |
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Im just pumped up for Del Zotto, figure he'll be solid paired with tanev or Gudbranson.
Also if Gagner plays with Horvat, i could very well see Horvat hitting 30 goals - phyllee
There is probably about 2 forward jobs up for grabs this year. As much as people here don't like the idea of handing out jobs automatically to prospects , i feel equally angered by automatically handing out obs to vets.
I don't believe we will be icing the best team we can offer this year. I think some vets will be outplayed but kept anyways. |
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I have heard he was doing nicely the last two years. Craig Buttons was all over him for how good he was. I guess now we are seeing he might be better than anticipated.
Nice Problem - VANTEL
He still needs a bit more weight as well at 6'1 and 183 lbs. |
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He still needs a bit more weight as well at 6'1 and 183 lbs. - VanHockeyGuy
10 lbs is easy . |
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phyllee
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Joined: 06.24.2014
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There is probably about 2 forward jobs up for grabs this year. As much as people here don't like the idea of handing out jobs automatically to prospects , i feel equally angered by automatically handing out obs to vets.
I don't believe we will be icing the best team we can offer this year. I think some vets will be outplayed but kept anyways. - VANTEL
Other then Boeser i cant see any rookies beating out Gagner (And if anything Boeser should play with the Sedins). Goldy+Virtanen wouldnt hurt with another year in the AHL |
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Other then Boeser i cant see any rookies beating out Gagner (And if anything Boeser should play with the Sedins). Goldy+Virtanen wouldnt hurt with another year in the AHL - phyllee
I'm hoping Gagner plays at 3C |
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phyllee
Vancouver Canucks |
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I'm hoping Gagner plays at 3C - VanHockeyGuy
I cant see Gagner beating Sutter from his position. Gagner is a solid playmaker, and Horvat normally elevates his teamates (Sven,Hansen,Burrows,Dorsett) A line of Bae-Horvat-Gagner could be solid offensively and defensively . |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Adam Gaudette @Hockey_Gaud 17h17 hours ago
Back to the Bean. Thanks @Canucks for another great Development Camp! What a city, can't wait to be back! Vancouver ✈️ Boston ✌🏻 #MyLegsHurt - VANTEL
I told you Gaudette hates the Canucks and would never sign |
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Other then Boeser i cant see any rookies beating out Gagner (And if anything Boeser should play with the Sedins). Goldy+Virtanen wouldnt hurt with another year in the AHL - phyllee
I think Bo is a no brainer . It would be a waste eating up the second year of his ECL to play on Utica. His job to lose.
Goldobin has put in his time already. I go back to what DCT said last year , they guy adds offense , let him play. Again I go back to Chaput Megna and Gaunce , who would you rather see Goldobin or them ?
I don't like Rodin or Sven gifted a spot. |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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I think Bo is a no brainer . It would be a waste eating up the second year of his ECL to play on Utica. His job to lose.
Goldobin has put in his time already. I go back to what DCT said last year , they guy adds offense , let him play. Again I go back to Chaput Megna and Gaunce , who would you rather see Goldobin or them ?
I don't like Rodin or Sven gifted a spot. - VANTEL
Don't be so hasty with Gaunce. I could easily see him scoring 2-3 goals if they put him in a position to succeed with quality linemates |
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Don't be so hasty with Gaunce. I could easily see him scoring 2-3 goals if they put him in a position to succeed with quality linemates - CanuckDon
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Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC Joined: 09.23.2015
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Don't be so hasty with Gaunce. I could easily see him scoring 2-3 goals if they put him in a position to succeed with quality linemates - CanuckDon
give him some PP time with the twins and he might hit 6 goals |
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