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hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Jul 11 @ 6:20 AM ET
He filed for arbitration today. He is likely seeking out of budget for the Hawks money.
- Return of the Roar


Palat SHOULD come in at around the same AAV as what we free up from Hossa. palat as the #2 LW would be SWEEEEEET!!!!!!

Pipe dream.....but, man would he ever look good in the Indian-head!
hocktock
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Over by dere.
Joined: 07.15.2015

Jul 11 @ 8:38 AM ET
Here you go...in all its ugly OHL bright yellow glory


- pdx2ord


Thank you my frent.

Go hair.
savvyone-1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I'm singing the Blues!, IL
Joined: 03.04.2011

Jul 11 @ 9:05 AM ET
Thank you my frent.

Go hair.

- hocktock


And hair dye/bleach!

Looks to me like he was trying to match the goldenrod accent color on those uni's.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 11 @ 9:06 AM ET
I wonder if Tatar may be an option if the Wings cant work something out. I know JJ hinted at a buffalo winger, just saying tatar could be a viable plan b if the hawks get ltir relief
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jul 11 @ 9:20 AM ET
I wonder if Tatar may be an option if the Wings cant work something out. I know JJ hinted at a buffalo winger, just saying tatar could be a viable plan b if the hawks get ltir relief
- ikeane


Left wing. Solid 50 pt player on mediocre Det team. Still young. Paid 2.75. Sign me up
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 11 @ 9:53 AM ET
And hair dye/bleach!

Looks to me like he was trying to match the goldenrod accent color on those uni's.

- savvyone-1


The whole team did for the mem cup.

His isn't as bad as some of the others
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jul 11 @ 10:35 AM ET
I wonder if Tatar may be an option if the Wings cant work something out. I know JJ hinted at a buffalo winger, just saying tatar could be a viable plan b if the hawks get ltir relief
- ikeane

Detroit's asking price for the likes of Tatar are outside what the Hawks can offer (a young, establish NHL d-man with potential to be top 4). If it wasn't, he'd have been a Hawk last year.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jul 11 @ 10:45 AM ET
Prospect Camp attendee list: https://www.nhl.com/black...f7dfc9539f96d4b77ce43d274

Fortin is listed as injured, which is disappointing.
golfbard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.22.2007

Jul 11 @ 10:58 AM ET
Prospect Camp attendee list: https://www.nhl.com/black...f7dfc9539f96d4b77ce43d274

Fortin is listed as injured, which is disappointing.

- L_B_R


Jakub Galvas, Alexandre Fortin & Freddy Olofsson will only be off-ice participants at the camp.

DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 11 @ 11:06 AM ET
Prospect Camp attendee list: https://www.nhl.com/black...f7dfc9539f96d4b77ce43d274

Fortin is listed as injured, which is disappointing.

- L_B_R



That is disappointing, but I'm sure Fortin will still get a long look at the Blackhawks training camp.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Knott, Sikura and Iacopelli do.

Edit: And Darren Raddysh too.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 11 @ 11:09 AM ET
So Tyler Johnson signed basically for free
kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Jul 11 @ 11:09 AM ET
Prospect Camp attendee list: https://www.nhl.com/black...f7dfc9539f96d4b77ce43d274

Fortin is listed as injured, which is disappointing.

- L_B_R


for me I would like to see how Debrionct, Gilbert, Bondra, highmore, Raddish look.
kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Jul 11 @ 11:16 AM ET
So Tyler Johnson signed basically for free
- fattybeef


Johnson 7 X 5 ends at 32, stamkos 8.5 X 8 ends at 33, hedmen 7.8 X 8 ends at 33, Kuckerov 3 x 4.7 ends at 25 and is still a RFA.

I know they have not won a ST but you compare those contracts to SEABS, TEOWS, KANE, AA. the only won you could even argue over is Stamkos and Kane. IE I would probably take Kane or stamkos plus the extra 2 mil.
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Jul 11 @ 11:21 AM ET
Johnson 7 X 5 ends at 32, stamkos 8.5 X 8 ends at 33, hedmen 7.8 X 8 ends at 33, Kuckerov 3 x 4.7 ends at 25 and is still a RFA.

I know they have not won a ST but you compare those contracts to SEABS, TEOWS, KANE, AA. the only won you could even argue over is Stamkos and Kane. IE I would probably take Kane or stamkos plus the extra 2 mil.

- kmw4631

You most certainly must give kudos to Stevie Y here, those numbers for those guys are ALL outstanding.
TyCamScore
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.09.2010

Jul 11 @ 11:33 AM ET
You most certainly must give kudos to Stevie Y here, those numbers for those guys are ALL outstanding.
- 35Tony0



Kudos to Stevie Y and Florida's state tax.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jul 11 @ 11:36 AM ET
The whole team did for the mem cup.

His isn't as bad as some of the others

- vabeachbear




It's apparently a league tradition?



because, here is Kane with the same thing when he was on the Knights



Not really a good look on anyone, must say
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jul 11 @ 11:38 AM ET
Prospect Camp attendee list: https://www.nhl.com/black...f7dfc9539f96d4b77ce43d274

Fortin is listed as injured, which is disappointing.

- L_B_R


Understand he just had surgery?
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 11 @ 12:13 PM ET
Johnson 7 X 5 ends at 32, stamkos 8.5 X 8 ends at 33, hedmen 7.8 X 8 ends at 33, Kuckerov 3 x 4.7 ends at 25 and is still a RFA.

I know they have not won a ST but you compare those contracts to SEABS, TEOWS, KANE, AA. the only won you could even argue over is Stamkos and Kane. IE I would probably take Kane or stamkos plus the extra 2 mil.

- kmw4631


I wonder what would be the reaction from this board for a GM of the Hawks who resigned all of these guys to a point where they'll all almost be done with their careers, having never won a cup, and also missing the playoffs completely.

Just curious
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 11 @ 12:25 PM ET
Kudos to Stevie Y and Florida's state tax.
- TyCamScore



Florida's lack of state tax
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jul 11 @ 12:35 PM ET
Florida's lack of state tax
- boilermaker100


They have very high excise and sales taxes. And if you're a rich athlete in Florida you'll be buying stuff.

Also, local taxes can be written off your federal form lowering your taxable income. You can't write off excise or sales taxes. So players in higher taxed states can lower their taxable income (thus tax burden) and also enjoy lower sales taxes. There are also contributions one can make, setting up foundations that can further lower your tax burden. There is a lot you can do to minimize your taxes. Another good thing is to start a business, an LLC. While you're getting your business up to speed, the investment costs can be written off and only when you're in the green do you start paying taxes. This is why you do see athletes, especially older ones or more savvy opening up car dealerships, restaurants, etc. This also explains why athletes buy gaudy, ridiculous monstrous homes that are 10k square feet with 8 bathrooms. Interest and mortgage deduction.

Guessing here, but Florida probably also taxes the poop out of their tourism industry, hotels, restaurants, etc. This is a neat way vacation states get tax revenue for services, by making visitors pay for it. Of course that allows a lower tax rate for actual residents, though they'd feel some burden when they went out to eat.

Oh yea, procreate. Get hitched. This helps on the tax bill too. but you pay bigly in other ways.

In the end it's a personal choice and taxes play only part of the role. Few people will live in an unsafe, poophole just because it's low taxed. I live where I live because of world class school system so I don't mind the heavy tax burden, a tax burden that actually helps me reduce my taxable income on the federal form. Of course, when my youngest graduates we'll move out of this county. I treat my local taxes as a "user fee" so to speak.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 11 @ 1:41 PM ET
Johnson 7 X 5 ends at 32, stamkos 8.5 X 8 ends at 33, hedmen 7.8 X 8 ends at 33, Kuckerov 3 x 4.7 ends at 25 and is still a RFA.

I know they have not won a ST but you compare those contracts to SEABS, TEOWS, KANE, AA. the only won you could even argue over is Stamkos and Kane. IE I would probably take Kane or stamkos plus the extra 2 mil.

- kmw4631


Meh, AA market value. They could do worse for 4.5 million and that ends when hes 32.

They weren't not going to pay Toews and Kane. And there's a valid argument for both of them. Toews has seen a decline over the last 3 years but, again, they kind of had to pay him. And who knows, if they shake things up playing style a bit maybe that rejuvenates him. Hossa was done scoring at a high level until they got him in transition last year and his shooting percentage finally went the right way.

Seabs is kind of bad but, I think they thought they would do better than 2 first round exits in these last 2 years and were banking on that. Oops. Probably wouldn't get value for value anyway moving him at 30 unless they were to eat a deal coming the other way.

The big factors are the NMC's more than anything else.

Either way, probably another stoppage and round of "free" buyouts in two years.
TyCamScore
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.09.2010

Jul 11 @ 1:55 PM ET
Florida's lack of state tax
- boilermaker100


Touche.

Here's an interesting article with the argument that the NHL should implement a weighted income tax rule to level the playing field.

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/mtl170508.html
isu83boo
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.25.2017

Jul 11 @ 1:56 PM ET
How many would trade Kane or Toews for Duchene & Landeskog? Now that would be a blockbuster.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 11 @ 2:05 PM ET
How many would trade Kane or Toews for Duchene & Landeskog? Now that would be a blockbuster.
- isu83boo



EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 11 @ 2:06 PM ET
How many would trade Kane or Toews for Duchene & Landeskog? Now that would be a blockbuster.
- isu83boo


I wouldn't trade Kane alone for Duchene and Landeskog - let alone include Toews.
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