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Stripes77
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Jul 10 @ 12:56 PM ET
Back to the question at hand...

What would it take to get Tatar? Also what would his contract look like?

His cap hit was $2.75 million...

5 years $23 million? $4.6 million per (basically an Ennis contract)

One of Bailey/Baptsite and a 2nd?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jul 10 @ 1:01 PM ET

I would do it but I have no clue if he's available and if your the wings why ?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 10 @ 1:01 PM ET
Back to the question at hand...

What would it take to get Tatar? Also what would his contract look like?

His cap hit was $2.75 million...

5 years $23 million? $4.6 million per (basically an Ennis contract)

One of Bailey/Baptsite and a 2nd?

- Stripes77

girgens, fasching, 2018 4th rd pick and gorges (eat 50% salary)

maybe that would get it done

if they don't make that move
what would mike green cost?

1 year left on his deal and that would free up their short term cap issues


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 10 @ 1:03 PM ET
I would do it but I have no clue if he's available and if your the wings why ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...central/team.php?team=DET


2.3 mil left in cap space

they need to sign tatar and athanasiou
Stripes77
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Jul 10 @ 1:06 PM ET
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=DET


2.3 mil left in cap space

they need to sign tatar and athanasiou

- homiedclown



Exactly they are in cap hell and they need to realize the time to rebuild is now...

Bailey/Baptiste and a 2nd is a good start...
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 10 @ 1:07 PM ET
Don't worry he is getting his due justice at the moment.

Literally the only thing they have to show for after that entire trade tree is Ho Sang.

Moulson a first and 3 2nds turned into Ho Sang

- Stripes77


Yes, this is very close to being correct (edit: that was correct with Sebastian Collberg, lol). Are you about to laugh at the tree? I think we won this hands down, absolutely no questions asked.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 10 @ 1:08 PM ET
Exactly they are in cap hell and they need to realize the time to rebuild is now...

Bailey/Baptiste and a 2nd is a good start...

- Stripes77

Franzen controls everything for them

if he wants to give it a go, they are screwed
Stripes77
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Jul 10 @ 1:11 PM ET
Yes, this is very close to being correct. Are you about to laugh at the tree? I think we won this hands down, absolutely no questions asked.


- Lilroot9



Especially since Collberg has been waived and is back in Europe...
Stripes77
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Jul 10 @ 1:12 PM ET
Franzen controls everything for them

if he wants to give it a go, they are screwed

- homiedclown



Even if he doesn't his cap hit is only $4 million...

They still will need to move someone.
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Jul 10 @ 1:14 PM ET
Especially since Collberg has been waived and is back in Europe...
- Stripes77


I like ho sang alot he's going to be very good like a Max Domi
Stripes77
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Jul 10 @ 1:17 PM ET
I like ho sang alot he's going to be very good like a Max Domi
- GERBE!!!75PTS



Maybe but you still won't get a first and 3 seconds (and a roster player who put up 50 points that season) for him...
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Jul 10 @ 1:20 PM ET
Maybe but you still won't get a first and 3 seconds (and a roster player who put up 50 points that season) for him...
- Stripes77


I mean we don't know that yet maybe down the road ...

But I was just saying I liked him ( I think the trade is even now) with what we ended up with now
Cup Crazy '07
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Jul 10 @ 1:21 PM ET
Is the 3-on-3 tournament today?
homiedclown
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Jul 10 @ 1:24 PM ET
I like ho sang alot he's going to be very good like a Max Domi
- GERBE!!!75PTS

the max domi that could not score 10 goals last year?


or is there another max domi

Stripes77
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Jul 10 @ 1:25 PM ET
I mean we don't know that yet maybe down the road ...

But I was just saying I liked him ( I think the trade is even now) with what we ended up with now

- GERBE!!!75PTS



At best Ho-Sang is a 60 point player...

There is not a GM in the league that would give up a 50 point player, a first round pick, and 3 second round picks for that player. (Except maybe Garth Snow)

Stop there is nothing about that trade that is even.

I know you love the next big thing but come on man...
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Jul 10 @ 1:28 PM ET
the max domi that could not score 10 goals last year?


or is there another max domi

- homiedclown


You mean the guy that will have more assists than goals because he's a playmaker ?

Are you going to say Henrik Sedin sucked too
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Jul 10 @ 1:31 PM ET
At best Ho-Sang is a 60 point player...

There is not a GM in the league that would give up a 50 point player, a first round pick, and 3 second round picks for that player. (Except maybe Garth Snow)

Stop there is nothing about that trade that is even.

I know you love the next big thing but come on man...

- Stripes77


How is the trade not even ??? You said they only have ho sang we have Guhle

1 for 1 now ..

When we first made the trade yeah it was win but now it's not

When we made the Cody Hodgson trade that was a win for us now it's a fail for both of us
Stripes77
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Jul 10 @ 1:31 PM ET
You mean the guy that will have more assists than goals because he's a playmaker ?

Are you going to say Henrik Sedin sucked too

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Domi is a 50 point player.

He is not this all world player.

You're not ready.
Stripes77
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Jul 10 @ 1:32 PM ET
How is the trade not even ??? You said they only have ho sang we have Guhle

1 for 1 now ..

When we first made the trade yeah it was win but now it's not

When we made the Cody Hodgson trade that was a win for us now it's a fail for both of us

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Guhle
Lehner
Moulson
Gorges

and two prospects

all they have is Ho Sang...that is it
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 10 @ 1:39 PM ET
Domi is a 50 point player.

He is not this all world player.

You're not ready.

- Stripes77

we need goal scorers, not play makers


domi has 27 goals in 140 games

we need someone that can score 30-35 goals a season

tatar scored 75 goals in 3 season, much closer to what this team needs
IndianaSabresFan
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Jul 10 @ 1:41 PM ET
Domi is a 50 point player.

He is not this all world player.

You're not ready.

- Stripes77

Stripes77
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Jul 10 @ 1:41 PM ET
we need goal scorers, not play makers


domi has 27 goals in 140 games

we need someone that can score 30-35 goals a season

tatar scored 75 goals in 3 season, much closer to what this team needs

- homiedclown



I am all about the Tatar train!

I would even send next years first for him if Botterill feels that the blue line is good enough to make a playoff run with Guhle in Rochester developing...
Stripes77
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Jul 10 @ 1:43 PM ET
Seriously junior this is the trade in a nut shell for the Islanders:

Out:

Moulson (sent to Buffalo)
2014 2nd (sent to Tampa)
2015 1st (sent to Buffalo)
2015 2nd (sent to Buffalo)
2014 2nd (from Montreal to Tampa for Vanek)

In:
Ho-Sang
Collberg (since waived came in the Vanek to Montreal trade)

That is all they have to show for

Explain to me how that is a win for the Islanders?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jul 10 @ 1:45 PM ET
Domi is a 50 point player.

He is not this all world player.

You're not ready.

- Stripes77


How can you tell he's a Max 50 point player lol he's only played 2 years ..

Do I think he's liking to be the greatest player of all time no lol but he will hit 70 pts
Stripes77
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Jul 10 @ 1:48 PM ET
How can you tell he's a Max 50 point player lol he's only played 2 years ..

Do I think he's liking to be the greatest player of all time no lol but he will hit 70 pts

- GERBE!!!75PTS





Get out of here, Matthews didn't even hit 70 last season

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...sort=points,goals,assists

Only 19 players hit 70 points last season I think it's safe that Eichel and Matthews will hit it this season.

This is why nobody can take what you say seriously.
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