Todd Cordell
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.05.2011
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It sounds like we are playing the kids regardless of how ready they look. Sure hope they don't push Nico too fast.
I'll be surprised if Ray doesn't add someone as his late additions of Stempniak and PAP worked out quite well; and when we traded those guys the team's offense took a real hit.
I'm more or less OK with whatever happens with the forwards. The state of our defense and seemingly no interest in addressing it seems completely horrific. |
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Devils314
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Location: NY Joined: 08.16.2016
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It sounds like we are playing the kids regardless of how ready they look. Sure hope they don't push Nico too fast.
I'll be surprised if Ray doesn't add someone as his late additions of Stempniak and PAP worked out quite well; and when we traded those guys the team's offense took a real hit.
I'm more or less OK with whatever happens with the forwards. The state of our defense and seemingly no interest in addressing it seems completely horrific. - Queenie_5_hole
The defense will be fixed no reason to rush or overpay for a defenseman when we won't make the playoffs anyway trust the process when the right deal presents itself Shero will jump on it |
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p07743
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Location: NJ Joined: 06.27.2016
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Exactly, people need to relax and allow Ray to work his magic. We have been seeing the transformation from how the team was when he got here...(Old,slow, and full of slugs..) to now starting to see the change. Yes the defense looks suspect, but it rather be patient and wait for the right deal then to trade/sign overpay now. #Raysways |
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The defense will be fixed no reason to rush or overpay for a defenseman when we won't make the playoffs anyway trust the process when the right deal presents itself Shero will jump on it - Devils314
With Clowe on LTIR we have over $25M in cap space. Please rush and overpay someone. You think Hall is going to stay here while we do the slow rebuild? And if we don't get someone quick Andy Greene will done and we'll still stink.
If we don't add forwards because we won't make the playoffs and don't add defenseman because we won't make the playoffs, you know what will happen? You won't make the playoffs. What a totally defeatist BS way to run a team.
We are just another low payroll joke of a franchise with ownerships unwilling to spend any money. Our free agents are all lousy D men on the cheap or 4th line centers. What a freakin joke. |
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CaptCrankypants
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Location: None of your business Joined: 04.27.2014
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With Clowe on LTIR we have over $25M in cap space. Please rush and overpay someone. You think Hall is going to stay here while we do the slow rebuild? And if we don't get someone quick Andy Greene will done and we'll still stink.
If we don't add forwards because we won't make the playoffs and don't add defenseman because we won't make the playoffs, you know what will happen? You won't make the playoffs. What a totally defeatist BS way to run a team.
We are just another low payroll joke of a franchise with ownerships unwilling to spend any money. Our free agents are all lousy D men on the cheap or 4th line centers. What a freakin joke. - Queenie_5_hole
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Exactly, people need to relax and allow Ray to work his magic. We have been seeing the transformation from how the team was when he got here...(Old,slow, and full of slugs..) to now starting to see the change. Yes the defense looks suspect, but it rather be patient and wait for the right deal then to trade/sign overpay now. #Raysways - p07743
What is so bad about overpaying? You have less cap space available to not use? If you can't pony up for a 28 year old D man like Shattenkirk there is no right deal coming along. You'll be sending out the stiff's on D. Lovejoy, Moore, Prout, and Quincey are #Raysways. Rays way sucks on D. |
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p07743
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Location: NJ Joined: 06.27.2016
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With Clowe on LTIR we have over $25M in cap space. Please rush and overpay someone. You think Hall is going to stay here while we do the slow rebuild? And if we don't get someone quick Andy Greene will done and we'll still stink.
If we don't add forwards because we won't make the playoffs and don't add defenseman because we won't make the playoffs, you know what will happen? You won't make the playoffs. What a totally defeatist BS way to run a team.
We are just another low payroll joke of a franchise with ownerships unwilling to spend any money. Our free agents are all lousy D men on the cheap or 4th line centers. What a freakin joke. - Queenie_5_hole
Yes over pay and get yourself in a longterm hole, Yes trade away all picks and core guys when the team is still 1-2 years away from competing for a playoff push. You are the perfect GM man! We need to trade Hall right now and get Adam L back ! You have no patience and are clearly thinking buy buy buy and not thinking 3-5 year down the road. |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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With Clowe on LTIR we have over $25M in cap space. Please rush and overpay someone. You think Hall is going to stay here while we do the slow rebuild? And if we don't get someone quick Andy Greene will done and we'll still stink.
If we don't add forwards because we won't make the playoffs and don't add defenseman because we won't make the playoffs, you know what will happen? You won't make the playoffs. What a totally defeatist BS way to run a team.
We are just another low payroll joke of a franchise with ownerships unwilling to spend any money. Our free agents are all lousy D men on the cheap or 4th line centers. What a freakin joke. - Queenie_5_hole
Tell that the Capitals, Kings, Blackhawks and Penguins. They got all of their elite talent via the slow rebuild. |
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CaptCrankypants
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Location: None of your business Joined: 04.27.2014
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What is so bad about overpaying? You have less cap space available to not use? If you can't pony up for a 28 year old D man like Shattenkirk there is no right deal coming along. You'll be sending out the stiff's on D. Lovejoy, Moore, Prout, and Quincey are #Raysways. Rays way sucks on D. - Queenie_5_hole
There has to be someone worth spending money on. There's not. Even Shattenkirk wasn't going to turn this team into a playoff bubble team.
Right now it's either finish with a high pick or hope another GM makes a really dumb trade with Shero. |
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FAZOOL
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Exit 80, NJ Joined: 04.30.2012
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With Clowe on LTIR we have over $25M in cap space. Please rush and overpay someone. You think Hall is going to stay here while we do the slow rebuild? And if we don't get someone quick Andy Greene will done and we'll still stink.
If we don't add forwards because we won't make the playoffs and don't add defenseman because we won't make the playoffs, you know what will happen? You won't make the playoffs. What a totally defeatist BS way to run a team.
We are just another low payroll joke of a franchise with ownerships unwilling to spend any money. Our free agents are all lousy D men on the cheap or 4th line centers. What a freakin joke. - Queenie_5_hole
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Tell that the Capitals, Kings, Blackhawks and Penguins. They got all of their elite talent via the slow rebuild. - tomburton99
Didn't realize the Penguins drafted Phil Kessel... or the Kings drafted Gabroik, or Jeff Carter. What year did the Hawks draft Hossa, or Anisimov or Rozsival?
Which year did the Ranger's draft? Nash and McD?
Yes, drafting generational talent is a big boon for a team and a big part of their success but signing free agents (and trading) certainly helps.
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Might be worth to overpay Markov. Yes, he's old but he had a decent year. Sign him for 2 years at 5-5.5 mil. Give him opportunity to work with Santini, Severson and Mueller. |
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There has to be someone worth spending money on. There's not. Even Shattenkirk wasn't going to turn this team into a playoff bubble team.
Right now it's either finish with a high pick or hope another GM makes a really dumb trade with Shero. - CaptCrankypants
Individually nobody is going to turn this into a playoff bubble team. The idea is to keep adding useful parts. The team will be closer to being a playoff team with a Dman who can put up 50/pts a season then without one. And it's fine if KS was intent on being a Ranger and decided to sign there. The issue is we sort of half assed going after him and you guys all seem fine with us to continuing to suck because why spend money?
Why bother bringing in Brian Boyle? I mean if you can't pay for an elite D man why get a great 4th line center? Why trade for Hall. He can't get us to the playoffs. Why run a hockey club? Why not sell off the franchise to Seattle? Why serve beer at the stadium... you're just going to piss it away later. |
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Also might be good idea to bring in Mike Fisher for a year. Could use his leadership and seeing Carrie Underwood at the Rock would be nice. ; ) |
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Devilspep87
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Devils Land, NJ Joined: 05.05.2017
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Didn't realize the Penguins drafted Phil Kessel... or the Kings drafted Gabroik, or Jeff Carter. What year did the Hawks draft Hossa, or Anisimov or Rozsival?
Which year did the Ranger's draft? Nash and McD?
Yes, drafting generational talent is a big boon for a team and a big part of their success but signing free agents (and trading) certainly helps. - Queenie_5_hole
And Ray got us Taylor Hall, Kyle Palmieri and now Marcus Johanson via trade. Shrewd trading and good drafting will get the Devils back to being contenders. Not overpaying for over the hill free agents. We're in a unique position where our prospect pool is growing and we have more kids with potential to crack the lineup. Lets see what they can do.
I understand your frustration. It sucks missing the playoffs. But for the life of me I don't see one move Ray can make right now that would instantly make this team a contender this year. |
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Devils314
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NY Joined: 08.16.2016
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Individually nobody is going to turn this into a playoff bubble team. The idea is to keep adding useful parts. The team will be closer to being a playoff team with a Dman who can put up 50/pts a season then without one. And it's fine if KS was intent on being a Ranger and decided to sign there. The issue is we sort of half assed going after him and you guys all seem fine with us to continuing to suck because why spend money?
Why bother bringing in Brian Boyle? I mean if you can't pay for an elite D man why get a great 4th line center? Why trade for Hall. He can't get us to the playoffs. Why run a hockey club? Why not sell off the franchise to Seattle? Why serve beer at the stadium... you're just going to piss it away later. - Queenie_5_hole
I think your really missing the point that there was no talented defensman or free agents to spend money on and the few quality free agents that were available are all over 30 and wouldn't of signed with a rebuilding devils team. You build through the draft and when your core players are ready then you bring in some veterans to fill holes in the roster you don't spend money for the sake of spending it when you have young prospects that need roster spots developing those prospects will gen key to the devils becoming a contender down the road |
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thechezman
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: 9083103373, NJ Joined: 04.24.2016
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14 forwards.
Hall - Zajac - Palmieri
Henrique - Zacha - Johansson
Quenneville - Nico - Mcleod
Wood - Boyle - Noesen
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Blandisi - Speers .
7 D.
Greene -Severson
Mueller -Lovejoy
Moore -Santini
Prout
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Cory
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Didn't realize the Penguins drafted Phil Kessel... or the Kings drafted Gabroik, or Jeff Carter. What year did the Hawks draft Hossa, or Anisimov or Rozsival?
Which year did the Ranger's draft? Nash and McD?
Yes, drafting generational talent is a big boon for a team and a big part of their success but signing free agents (and trading) certainly helps. - Queenie_5_hole
The Capitals drafted Backstrom, Ovie, Carlson, Kuznetsove, Burakovsky, and Holtby. That's just the talent the have on the soter now. I can on with other they've drafted.
I can do this with the other teams too. Shall I keep going? |
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The Capitals drafted Backstrom, Ovie, Carlson, Kuznetsove, Burakovsky, and Holtby. That's just the talent the have on the soter now. I can on with other they've drafted.
I can do this with the other teams too. Shall I keep going? - tomburton99
I didn't say teams didn't draft talent so I don't really give a (frank) what you do. But the big (frank)ing news flash is all of the successful teams also trade and sign free agents. |
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CaptCrankypants
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Location: None of your business Joined: 04.27.2014
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I didn't say teams didn't draft talent so I don't really give a (frank) what you do. But the big (frank)ing news flash is all of the successful teams also trade and sign free agents. - Queenie_5_hole
The Devils have made some incredibly smart trades.
You can't make chicken salad from chicken poop. And that's what Shero inherited, chicken poop. He's done a good job rebuilding the pipeline. He hasn't been perfect by any means, but there's a heck of a lot more there now. And there's a reason you need your core to be drafted players. Players are at their best well before they become free agents. Drafting is the right way to build.
And you act like there were a ton of free agents just sitting out there. The best thing Shero did was not signing Alzner or anyone like that when he lost out on Shattenkirk. |
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Yes over pay and get yourself in a longterm hole, Yes trade away all picks and core guys when the team is still 1-2 years away from competing for a playoff push. You are the perfect GM man! We need to trade Hall right now and get Adam L back ! You have no patience and are clearly thinking buy buy buy and not thinking 3-5 year down the road. - p07743
How many years did the fans in AZ hear we're just 1-2 years aways. We're drafting the future now. Stick with the rebuild. The plan is working. You know what they have? A poop team like us.
One big contract is going to cause a crippling hole? You know what teams do when they have a bad contract? They trade it to a franchise like us with a pick and keep going. You know when this team is going to use it's cap space? When they're in Quebec. |
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The Devils have made some incredibly smart trades.
You can't make chicken salad from chicken poop. And that's what Shero inherited, chicken poop. He's done a good job rebuilding the pipeline. He hasn't been perfect by any means, but there's a heck of a lot more there now. And there's a reason you need your core to be drafted players. Players are at their best well before they become free agents. Drafting is the right way to build.
And you act like there were a ton of free agents just sitting out there. The best thing Shero did was not signing Alzner or anyone like that when he lost out on Shattenkirk. - CaptCrankypants
Yes, Ray has done a great job on trades and replenishing the farm. I don't think I"ve ever said otherwise. But in the three years he's here our payroll has been dropping and we've brought in a bunch of defensive stiffs. And it seems like he did a half assed job of going after Shattenkirk. I think we are essentially being run as a small market team with a bullpoop payroll. |
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p07743
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NJ Joined: 06.27.2016
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You cannot compare a franchise like AZ to the NJD... I want to see what else are you going to say down the road when Jersey is built for 10 years to contend for a playoff spot. If you cannot see what Ray is doing with what he inherited and to what it is now, then you don't know hockey at all. Cannot keep doing patch up jobs, and spending on guys that are not even there. Jersey is on the rise and it will show... maybe not next year , but it is coming. #TrustinRay |
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Devils314
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NY Joined: 08.16.2016
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Yes, Ray has done a great job on trades and replenishing the farm. I don't think I"ve ever said otherwise. But in the three years he's here our payroll has been dropping and we've brought in a bunch of defensive stiffs. And it seems like he did a half assed job of going after Shattenkirk. I think we are essentially being run as a small market team with a bullpoop payroll. - Queenie_5_hole
Your a special kind of stupid aren't you? Half assed job of going after Shattenkirk? First let's start by saying this again he wasn't going anywhere besides the Rangers unless the Rangers said we aren't signing you, Buffalo threw a seven year deal at him and he turned it down so stop with the Shattenkirk stuff he isn't a top pairing defenseman he played sheltered minutes on the Blues and Caps and was spoon fed powerplay time in deep defensive teams he would of been exposed for a fraud on the devils we dodged a bullet |
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