And Hudson Fasching has proven exactly zilch three years later.

So that sounds like it would have been a fair 1 for 1 swap to me. Instead of, you know giving them 2 2nd rounders on top of that.

Anyone here excited about Cliff Pu or Brendan Guhle, cannot in their right mind defend the multiple 1sts, 2nd's and 3rd's moved by Murray
- sbroads24

The one thing I don't get, any time people mention Murray got Kane and O'Reilly for nothing, since none of those prospects or picks are doing anything at the NHL level. The reply is they need more time. Yet Fasching is considered a failure because he hasn't done anything in the NHL.

Cant have it both ways. I personally hated the king/sabre deal, just an ovservation ive noticed.

The one thing I don't get, any time people mention Murray got Kane and O'Reilly for nothing, since none of those prospects or picks are doing anything at the NHL level. The reply is they need more time. Yet Fasching is considered a failure because he hasn't done anything in the NHL.

Cant have it both ways. I personally hated the king/sabre deal, just an ovservation ive noticed.
- Mentalorgasm5

He's not a failure, at all yet.

I think he's probably going to be a solid bottom 6 player.

Would you trade 2 2nds + a 5/6 D man for Marcus Foligno?

He's not a failure, at all yet.

I think he's probably going to be a solid bottom 6 player.

Would you trade 2 2nds + a 5/6 D man for Marcus Foligno?
- sbroads24

No, I hated that trade as soon as it happened. I was at a buddy's house on that deadline, he didn't understand why I disliked it. Then I broke down the chance of a player selected in the 3rd round (Deslauriers) and 4th round (Fasching) making any significant contribution in the NHL, and the fact that we just gave away a Dman that is NHL ready, and two 2nds for those odds.

No, I hated that trade as soon as it happened. I was at a buddy's house on that deadline, he didn't understand why I disliked it. Then I broke down the chance of a player selected in the 3rd round (Deslauriers) and 4th round (Fasching) making any significant contribution in the NHL, and the fact that we just gave away a Dman that is NHL ready, and two 2nds for those odds.
- Mentalorgasm5

Funny, at the time, I liked it because it fit the timeline of our rebuild, and I didn't know how bad Delauriers was.

Looking back, it's just nonsensical

No, I hated that trade as soon as it happened. I was at a buddy's house on that deadline, he didn't understand why I disliked it. Then I broke down the chance of a player selected in the 3rd round (Deslauriers) and 4th round (Fasching) making any significant contribution in the NHL, and the fact that we just gave away a Dman that is NHL ready, and two 2nds for those odds.
- Mentalorgasm5

I think two things were at play there:

--gmtm liked Fasching for his size, skill-level and potential

--the sabres were heavy on defensemen and very light on forwards

thus...

when you consider that the two 2nd-rounders in that trade came from another trade with the kings that sent robyn regehr to los angeles, the sabres gave up two defensemen--Regehr and Braydon mcnabb--plus forward jonathan parker for Hudson Fasching and nic deslauriers

Funny, at the time, I liked it because it fit the timeline of our rebuild, and I didn't know how bad Delauriers was.

Looking back, it's just nonsensical
- sbroads24

D-lo actually had a pretty good year under Nolan, and a decent first year under Bylsma--for a fourth-liner...

he was awful last season

I think two things were at play there:

--gmtm liked Fasching for his size, skill-level and potential

--the sabres were heavy on defensemen and very light on forwards

thus...

when you consider that the two 2nd-rounders in that trade came from another trade with the kings that sent robyn regehr to los angeles, the sabres gave up two defensemen--Regehr and Braydon mcnabb--plus forward jonathan parker for Hudson Fasching and nic deslauriers
- Michael Pachla

I always felt like the McNabb trade, the 2 2nds especially was a backroom contingency payment for the Regehr trade.

D-lo actually had a pretty good year under Nolan, and a decent first year under Bylsma--for a fourth-liner...

he was awful last season
- Michael Pachla

most fourth liners (good ones anyways) are at least putting up okay possession numbers. he was literally the worst in the league.

D-lo actually had a pretty good year under Nolan, and a decent first year under Bylsma--for a fourth-liner...

he was awful last season
- Michael Pachla

When it happened, i told my buddy, I feel like his is overpaying, since the kings overpaid for Robin the year before (the 2 mentioned 2nds)

most fourth liners (good ones anyways) are at least putting up okay possession numbers. he was literally the worst in the league.
- Sabresfan-365

Interesting stat time

Who has the 2nd best shooting % among D men at 5 on 5 over the past 2 years?

Interesting stat time

Who has the 2nd best shooting % among D men at 5 on 5 over the past 2 years?
- sbroads24

Is it a nurse?

Interesting stat time

Who has the 2nd best shooting % among D men at 5 on 5 over the past 2 years?
- sbroads24

FAKE NEWS

Is it a nurse?
- Der Kaiser

No, but someone that visits one frequently

No, but someone that visits one frequently
- sbroads24

Patrick Kaleta

Patrick Kaleta
- Der Kaiser

No, but they played on the same team for a few years

No, but they played on the same team for a few years
- sbroads24

I know he played in Rochester with both Chad Ruhwedel and Bobby Sanguenetti

No, but someone that visits one frequently
- sbroads24

Bogo

Bogo
- chilliard77

Ut oh.

Bogo
- chilliard77

Close, but taller

Close, but taller
- sbroads24

Because "Meyers" has only played 12 games over the last 4 years.

Because "Meyers" has only played 12 games over the last 4 years.
- Wetbandit1

Carlo Colaiacovo

Bogo
- chilliard77

I honestly think, if used correctly, he can be, at the very least, not a negative. Enough qualifiers for you?

I honestly think, if used correctly, he can be, at the very least, not a negative. Enough qualifiers for you?
- Wetbandit1

I think he could score 30 points next year if the stars align and jesus rises