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TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jul 19 @ 6:28 PM ET
Matthews and Eichel are not close. Never have been, never will be. Get used to it Buf fans. AM34 scored 40 in his rookie year. Eichel is a star. Matthews is/will be a superstar.
- BernardShakey


Thank you for proving his point in canadian.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 19 @ 6:48 PM ET
This is from right before last season...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...p-20-centres-nhl-numbers/

O'Reilly ranked the 12th best Center


I think a lot of folks on here massively underrate him
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 19 @ 7:04 PM ET
Not sure why you are on this Forum with that attitude. NHL is unlikely never able to have the success of the NBA. For most of us that's okay. The NHL has its playoffs each year. The first round matchups are dynamite. Upsets. New playoff heros each year. The NBA has its super teams where me first stars go to get their "ring". Big deal. Wanna bet Cleveland and GS are in the finals again next year? Why bother. The year after next Lebron will jump to the next team in his ultimate quest for a layup title. Why do fans fir 90% of the teams even bother?
- BernardShakey

Because it's incredibly entertaining.

Didnt the Pens just win back to back cups?

Actually, havent the Pens, Hawks and Kings won most of the cups the last decade? Why should other fans bother then?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 19 @ 7:06 PM ET
Chilliard is part of my snap life now lol
remember bro whatever things are said in Snapchat stays in Snapchat

And you can tell everyone I like men that part is true
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 19 @ 7:08 PM ET
Because it's incredibly entertaining.

Didnt the Pens just win back to back cups?

Actually, havent the Pens, Hawks and Kings won most of the cups the last decade? Why should other fans bother then?

- sbroads24





Not even remotely close to the same thing
Most ppl didn't pick Pitt to win again this year,
or win at all last year
For a good part of the season, looked like they wouldn't even make the playoffs

The Cup this year was literally 1 goal away from being 13 seed vs 16 seed


Bad post dude
U totally missed the point

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 19 @ 7:19 PM ET
Not even remotely close to the same thing
Most ppl didn't pick Pitt to win again this year,
or win at all last year
For a good part of the season, looked like they wouldn't even make the playoffs

The Cup this year was literally 1 goal away from being 13 seed vs 16 seed


Bad post dude
U totally missed the point

- jdfitz77

You literally talked about how all predictions are BS the other day.

I'm not doing this again today
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 19 @ 7:26 PM ET
My feeble attempt at a discussion starter:

Who is the captain next year assuming that Gio is done?


My vote: RoR...would also accept Jack or KO

Thoughts?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 19 @ 7:43 PM ET
My feeble attempt at a discussion starter:

Who is the captain next year assuming that Gio is done?


My vote: RoR...would also accept Jack or KO

Thoughts?

- RhinoFan


He's definitely done.

ROR.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 19 @ 7:53 PM ET
You literally talked about how all predictions are BS the other day.

I'm not doing this again today

- sbroads24




No sh!t Sherlock

Hockey isn't nearly as predictable as basketball is

That was the point U clearly missed
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 19 @ 7:57 PM ET
Chilliard is part of my snap life now lol
remember bro whatever things are said in Snapchat stays in Snapchat

And you can tell everyone I like men that part is true

- GERBE!!!75PTS

*deletes snapchat*
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 19 @ 7:58 PM ET
He's definitely done.

ROR.

- Wetbandit1

Captain Jack. No question
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:00 PM ET
No sh!t Sherlock

Hockey isn't nearly as predictable as basketball is

That was the point U clearly missed

- jdfitz77

No, I got that point.

My point is that it's been the same few teams winning the Cups over the past decade

Since 2000

8 different NBA teams have won a title
10 different NHL teams have won a title.

Not this giant difference people like to pretend exists.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 19 @ 8:10 PM ET
Captain Jack. No question
- chilliard77


This
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 19 @ 8:12 PM ET
This one might be more your speed:

http://bfy.tw/CviS

- Wetbandit1


Hope you get raped by spider monkeys
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 19 @ 8:13 PM ET
*deletes snapchat*
- chilliard77

GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 19 @ 8:18 PM ET
My feeble attempt at a discussion starter:

Who is the captain next year assuming that Gio is done?


My vote: RoR...would also accept Jack or KO

Thoughts?

- RhinoFan


I would of said ROR but jack took over the team this year
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 19 @ 8:28 PM ET
And everyone left
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 19 @ 8:31 PM ET
Captain Jack. No question
- chilliard77


Not too young? Worked for McDavid I know, but each case is different. He's never shown me anything that would suggest he's immature, but with older vets like RoR and Okposo here, you don't think he should wait? I believe he would be the 2nd youngest Captain in the league.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 19 @ 8:36 PM ET
Not too young? Worked for McDavid I know, but each case is different. He's never shown me anything that would suggest he's immature, but with older vets like RoR and Okposo here, you don't think he should wait? I believe he would be the 2nd youngest Captain in the league.
- RhinoFan

I don't want Ryan O'Reilly or Okposo to be captain long term. They will both be here long term. So if you give it to them over Jack he won't get it unless they take it from ROR/Okposo which is unlikely.

It's Jack's team
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 19 @ 8:43 PM ET
The only reason O'Reilly is regarded as a leader is because he's a hard worker. He's constantly talking about how he wants to be more of a leader (even in Buffalo). Leaders don't talk about leading they just lead lol
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 19 @ 8:45 PM ET
Not too young? Worked for McDavid I know, but each case is different. He's never shown me anything that would suggest he's immature, but with older vets like RoR and Okposo here, you don't think he should wait? I believe he would be the 2nd youngest Captain in the league.
- RhinoFan


He was the only one that called out the team usually it would be the kids just going through the motions and waiting for the season to be over and then maturing more he's already there he hates losing that's something you need for a captain
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 19 @ 8:50 PM ET
I don't want Ryan O'Reilly or Okposo to be captain long term. They will both be here long term. So if you give it to them over Jack he won't get it unless they take it from ROR/Okposo which is unlikely.

It's Jack's team

- chilliard77


There are plenty of teams that don't have their best player as captain. Chicago, Dallas, Florida, Colorado, Arizona(thought that's likely to change now that Doan is gone), Boston, San Jose, St Louis, Nashville, Toronto for years when "Kessler" was there, Calgary, is Barkov the captain in Florida? I don't think so, New Jersey, Winnipeg, arguably the Kings.

So 12 definites that don't have their best player as their captain.

Edit: And in almost all of those situations it's a "good Canadian boy" that's captain.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 19 @ 8:52 PM ET
I don't want Ryan O'Reilly or Okposo to be captain long term. They will both be here long term. So if you give it to them over Jack he won't get it unless they take it from ROR/Okposo which is unlikely.

It's Jack's team

- chilliard77


I was thinking that if OK or RoR got it, there could be a conversation about the fact that they were an interim captain until Jack "came of age". I can definitely seeing it go your way and wouldn't be upset at it. Perhaps it's wishful thinking to expect a player to accept the C knowing it'll be stripped in the future.

Jack is certainly the face of the franchise.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 19 @ 8:53 PM ET
There are plenty of teams that don't have their best player as captain. Chicago, Dallas, Florida, Colorado, Arizona(thought that's likely to change now that Doan is gone), Boston, San Jose, St Louis, Nashville, Toronto for years when "Kessler" was there, Calgary, is Barkov the captain in Florida? I don't think so, New Jersey, Winnipeg, arguably the Kings.

So 12 definites that don't have their best player as their captain.

Edit: And in almost all of those situations it's a "good Canadian boy" that's captain.

- Wetbandit1

Okay. But I don't see why this equates to ROR over Jack
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:56 PM ET
It will be Eichel, and will get the C put on when he signs
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