especially considering Nashville just gave Bonino a 2c contract to replace fisher, clearly they think a centre is more than just points.

If Horvat beats guys in faceoffs over half the time, can play against any line in the NHL, and puts up 50+ points, how is he not a top 6 centre? I don't get why people peg him as a 3c guy. They say he's not a playmaker but he had plenty of pretty passes, plenty of good rushes this season. Chemistry with wingers seems to dictate whether a guy is a 1c or a 2c on most teams, and Bo looks good with anyone.

Haters will hate, I love me some Bo Horvat. He will be the 1c and the future captain of this team for a long time.
- Crazybagoham

Isn't Mike Fisher like 50 years old?

We went to buy tickets on the one night we had left open but a friend who lives there called and said lets do dinner that night. I am sort of glad we passed we were exhausted with a full schedule
- VANTEL

Next time, its a great show.

Next time, its a great show.
- thundachunk

We actually asked the concierge to book them but she said the box office didn't open until 12

Layout the roles of TL JB & TG instead of hypothetical diggings for replies.
I state my case can u? Stop dancing & give some meat & potatoes.
- Nighthawk

I did. Thunda added. No digs. You say JB & TL dicatate roster from camp. I say they all work on it together. Usually coaches provide a list of who makes the cut. Then discussions ensue with management of what is workable. You say JB does it all and may ask coaches to give opinion on players he's not sure about. Even the draft doesn't work that way let alone camp roster decisions. When articles are reported from camp then you will see how it's done.

I might be the most optimistic type in here but this is not a PO team.
What we do have is a fun Utica team to whet our appetites.
2018-19 will be the most exciting year coming up.
- Nighthawk

Yeah you would have to see both goalies play great.

MDZ have a 40 point season.

Loui back to 60 points.

Bo, Baert, Granlund all have an increase in production

Sedin's, Gagner, Sutter all keep their same production

Boeser put up 40-50 points.

Gaunce score a goal.

Only one injury at a time.

Edler become a physical force

Gudbranson play all 82 games.

I mean I don't think it's asking too much.... right?

Yeah you would have to see both goalies play great.

MDZ have a 40 point season.

Loui back to 60 points.

Bo, Baert, Granlund all have an increase in production

Sedin's, Gagner, Sutter all keep their same production

Boeser put up 40-50 points.

Gaunce score a goal.

Only one injury at a time.

Edler become a physical force

Gudbranson play all 82 games.

I mean I don't think it's asking too much.... right?
- manvanfan

Is Sutter on the first unit PP ?

it's a long list.

Tyvm now can Nuck4U explain this to me pls
- Nighthawk

Okay to explain more. See scenario on how the relationship of roles interact in coming up with roster. This one is based on hypothetical of bubble players.

Coaching says Rodin earned it proving he can score now more then BB.
TL weighs in. BB garners interest. Sells more tickets. Markets team better.
JB says we need BB to develop his game. Asks what role could he play?
Coaching respods if we make room to play them both then Gaunce is out.
JB seeks input from his professional scouts on other teams to factor in waivers. Then JB asks coaching what can you live with to start the season?
JB decides okay waive Gaunce and BB makes roster with Rodin.

Is Sutter on the first unit PP ?

it's a long list.
- hillbillydeluxe

No, Gagner will help him out. Or dumb luck. Either or.

Yeah you would have to see both goalies play great.

MDZ have a 40 point season.

Loui back to 60 points.

Bo, Baert, Granlund all have an increase in production

Sedin's, Gagner, Sutter all keep their same production

Boeser put up 40-50 points.

Gaunce score a goal.

Only one injury at a time.

Edler become a physical force

Gudbranson play all 82 games.

I mean I don't think it's asking too much.... right?
- manvanfan

That's where optimism excels over expectation. The Laffs had no injuries and all their rookies and players had career years last season when the expectation was pain. So who who knows if this list is untenable. Realistically no. But that's why they play the games. There are factors not on your list that can come in to play. To outweigh what isn't gained on your list and make up ground not foreseen.

Yeah you would have to see both goalies play great.

MDZ have a 40 point season.

Loui back to 60 points.

Bo, Baert, Granlund all have an increase in production

Sedin's, Gagner, Sutter all keep their same production

Boeser put up 40-50 points.

Gaunce score a goal.

Only one injury at a time.

Edler become a physical force

Gudbranson play all 82 games.

I mean I don't think it's asking too much.... right?
- manvanfan

That's where optimism excels over expectation. The Laffs had no injuries and all their rookies and players had career years last season when the expectation was pain. So who who knows if this list is untenable. Realistically no. But that's why they play the games. There are factors not on your list that can come in to play. To outweigh what isn't gained on your list and make up ground not foreseen.
- Nuck4U

- manvanfan

Raunchy agreement. Did you think I downplayed your list instead of adding to it

- A_SteamingLombardi

Breane Gunace will never score.

- A_SteamingLombardi

I know it may happen though. Maybe like a 5-2 game and the other team pulls the goalie with 6:30 minutes left in the game and he shoots and it bounces off a defender and into the net.

Breane Gunace will never score.
- thundachunk

If that's his stripper name, I think he'll score a lot... but he'll be walking funny forever.

Raunchy agreement. Did you think I downplayed your list instead of adding to it
- Nuck4U

It wasn't about downplaying the list. The list was pretty much a joke, it was sarcasm. You turned it into something real.

To answer your question most of those things I listed aren't attainable for the team.

As for the leafs. Pretty simple, they had a bunch of players who were ripening in the minors. Added in 3 elite hockey players to a core that they had been building for the past 9 years.

It wasn't about downplaying the list. The list was pretty much a joke, it was sarcasm. You turned it into something real.

To answer your question most of those things I listed aren't attainable for the team.

As for the leafs. Pretty simple, they had a bunch of players who were ripening in the minors. Added in 3 elite hockey players to a core that they had been building for the past 9 years.
- manvanfan

Probably not but its okay to dream.

So many posts about centres who are actually wingers

So many posts about centres who are actually wingers
- BobBot

Go home Bob you're drunk.

Probably not but its okay to dream.
- thundachunk

I love a good dream.
Mastered the back flip yet?

I love a good dream.
Mastered the back flip yet?
- manvanfan

Getting there.

When Bo was drafted the pundits said his ceiling was a good 3C. His skating and offensive game wasn't good enough for top 6. Seems we have come full circle. Bo will just push himself and prove what Bo can do not what he can't do.
- Nuck4U

who cares what the pundits said? many in the know already knew at that point he was better than his consensus projections

BPA what a strange term for a guess in some ways.
Generalizing word without us knowing a teams BPA list.
- Nighthawk

it's who the particular group making the selection thinks is BPA, not the media/fans/scouting services

Go home Bob you're drunk.
- thundachunk

nah just in a different time zone responding to posts 8 pages old

He is a 2nd line centre. I hope he makes #1 but on a SC winning team right at this very moment he is only a 3rd line centre. We were talking hypotheticals.

Some here don't think Bo will ever be a legitimate #1 centre. I am not of that group but right now I want a bridge deal. He still needs to prove.
- thundachunk

thats cool because a 1c costs 10+ now anyway